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If I'm not mistaken I can recall reading that after drafting kaepernick 49ers HC Harbaugh stated he got the best player in the draft. So i would have to agree with this thought.

Thanks I don't really know why but I can't help myself but root for EJ in all this. I dunno, perhaps its because he is Bruce Smiths godson. It might be its because he is man who is has a clean background and has no skeletons in his closet. (didn't steal a lap top or cheat on tests, and get thrown out of school.) Maybe its because I read about how smart he is, and how hard he works at his craft from other players. Maybe because i watched him smile, and be happy after he learned he was drafted by the Buffalo Bills! That he actually wanted to come to Buffalo. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap2000000163754/Bills-draft-EJ-Manuel-No-16

I need to get my popcorn out for the battle of the insiders. Its kinda scaring me to hear that Cassel is Greg Romans starter. My reasoning is that looking at his overall record the Chiefs gave up a #2 pick, and gave Cassel a 67.2 mil contract, and went he 4-11 before suffering a season ending injury. Cassel improved to 10-5 in 2010 but that might have been because he was in ex Patriots OC Charlie Weis offense for a season. The next year he goes 4-5 under Bill Muir as OC. Then in 2012 went 1-7 under Brian Deboll as OC,and was benched in favor of Brady Quinn. If the supposed insiders think that EJ's game against Houston was a disaster... then they really didn't look at some of the stinkers ole Matt has played in. 6 TD's, 12 INT's while going 1-7 in 2012 What does it say that Andy Reid didn't want the guy, and released him in favor of obtaining Alex Smith from the Niners? With Tyrod Taylor the Ravens drafted him in the 6th round pick in 2011, and when the rest of the NFL scouts wanted him as a WR the Ravens thought to develop him as a QB. Was this Ozzie's way of flirting with a running QB which was popular back then, or did Ozzie actually see a decent starter in the rough? The guy really hasn't had enough legit NFL playing time for anyone to really know. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyrod-taylor?id=2495240 Taylor played well enough in pre season for the Ravens to keep him around. http://www.milehighreport.com/2015/3/14/8216575/nfl-free-agency-quarterback-tyrod-taylor-turns-a-down-deal-from Rex Ryan likes athletic QB's and was thinking about signing Mike Vick in Buffalo. Taylor has to be intriguing to Ryan as he loves the guys speed, and ability to scramble. Shades of Mike Vick in his heyday, and yet Vick in his 12 years in the league has only played an entire 16 games but once. With all this controversy over who the starting QB will be once the season starts I happen to think that even the coaching staff isn't entirely certain at this point. They clearly brought in Cassel to be the starter while thinking about giving EJ more time to develop despite what the current insiders say.IMO... While EJ may have been on a short leash and regulated to third string in the first two pre season games. The guy was impressive enough in both games to keep things interesting. The Bills still have two more pre season games to go before Rex Ryan / Greg Roman are forced with facing the decision as to which QB to start. Who that might be at this point I don't think anyone knows just yet.

I'll starting thinking about this after the next two pre season games. Both Pittsburgh, and Detroit can score a ton of points while playing good defense. We will know more after the next two games.

I look back at previous running QB's and a lot of the good ones did well until an injury hampered their mobility, and then they were forced to throw solely from the pocket...then they fail. Russell Wilson is in a class all by himself atm, and nobody is even close to his level of pocket awareness, ability to scramble while making big plays. Plus, he is doing it with mostly nobody's on offense with his receiving corps, as the best WR from last year is Doug Baldwin ranked as the 42nd best WR. With a top 10 offense in both yards, points. While we all love what we are seeing from the guy right now. To me its a long shot that Taylor will stay healthy enough to last the entire season. The Bills need a dominate pocket QB. As far as Cassell goes. I can't stand that high percentage short passing game, as it reminds me of Edwards. Then, if a O line starter should get hurt on that statue of Matt will really resemble the Venus de Milo with no arms. EJ needs to keep improving and show he can work with the first string offense. Why my vote was "its to early to tell".

I'd call it lousy too. Looking at the play by play for the first half, and Goodwin's end run that was stuffed for negative 9 yards did not help. Hill off RT for 3 yards Seale off RG for 6 yards Seale off LT for -4 yards Seale off RG for 3 yards Seale of RG for 2 yards Hill off RG for 2 yards Hill off RT for 2 yards 7 run plays for 14 yards =2.0 ypc avg Hill off RT for 4 yards Goodwin left end for -9 yards 2 run plays for -5 yards Hill off RG for 10 yards Hill off LG for -1 yards Seale off RT for 2 yards 3 runs for 11 yards= 3.6 ypc avg, Seale off RG for one yard unless my math is off somewhere 13 run plays for 21 yards in the first half. = 1.6 ypc avg The QB Taylor rushing made the rushing stats look better then they were.

Good stuff GunnerBill. Both TT & EJ showed well. Loved that EJ showed up at the end and won the game. That Buffalo first string defense is so intimidatingly good. But that second string O line is horrendously bad. We need to start praying now that the line starters all stay healthy this season.

Not really sure where this came from. The guy took a bunch of scrubs that probably won't make the team, and drove them down the field despite their bad play, penalties. Then not only got a TD, a two points conversion but also won the game. Seriously, who gives a darn where his feet are if the guy can throw a laser into a very tight window in the end zone for a TD!! But then, haters gonna hate i suppose. This OP has some issues.

I don't think the Bills FO is in any way shape or form ready to give up on EJ, and never was ready to move on from him. They probably realize that with only 14 game starts under bad coaching that the guy needs to sit and develop properly is the reason he was working with 2nd & 3rd string. The FO needs to see what TT & Cassel have to offer for the upcoming season. If Cassel continues with his high completion / short passes stuff, and doesn't move the chains to score I can see him as the backup to either TT or EJ .

I think things will change as teams game plan for what he can do, and it will take some really great skills / luck to be a successful running QB in the NFL. Newton has learned to be a decent pocket QB while Kaepernick & RG3 have not. Wilson is in a class all by himself. I think nobody really knows if TT can survive even a regular season game against a good defense, much less a season.

Some in the Bills FO might want EJ gone. I think he earned a spot on the team tonight by moving that cast of scrubs down the field (despite the penalties) by getting a TD, and two point conversion

Is it time to see EJ with the starters?

awww NICE!! EJ looking solid!!

sweet, keep this kid

pass was good enough

Gee, if EJ can move the ball down the field with this cast of scrubs....

Should we start praying now that none of the O line starters have an injury?

Sad, and true with No run blocking, no pass blocking I'm surprised it isn't more of a jailbreak against EJ

I started the guy almost every week last year, and won my PPR league. Of course my other WR's included Megatron,Jones, Edelman, & Sammy. He was Cams' go to guy in almost every situation. Now all they have is TE Greg Olsen.

Surprise: John Miller 3rd round pick at RG. So far he has exceeded my expectations. Disappointing: Darby looked good in camp, and then not so good in a pre season game. Minor disappointment: explosive as the offense could be with all the superstars- McCoy- Watkins- Clay- Harvin.. I have yet to see that "could be" exciting offense. Hopefully we see it as the pre season games progress.

Man, so true for me. I hated Ryan as the Jets HC, and was so happy the Bills made him look so feeble 2x last year. My favorite line from last season was we are going to play 1000% better in out second game against Buffalo. Needless to say they lost so badly 23-43. Now I'm rooting for him.

No question the spotlight is now on Buffalo because of Rex Ryan. "If he wins in Buffalo, where coaching careers go to die, Ryan will see his name and clout grow exponentially bigger." This!

If I'm not mistaken Rice started out that year with an injury, and no RB under OC Jim Caldwell did well that season. That was pre Gary Kubiak who built that good power run game last season. While I'm not very keen on signing a guy who beats up his girlfriend. That power run game must work or that offense is in real trouble from the start.