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Again I'll respond to off topic material. Who cares about 2011? Whaley wasn't the GM scouting Taylor. Flash Forward to 2015 and Whaley WAS the GM that brought Taylor in. He's the GM and personnel is his game (even if the HC begs). So you AGAIN your point is moot. I'm also excited for a high ceiling low risk player. We needed a QB this draft. We got a QB with some of the best measurable. Previously, we had to take a player like this in the first round.

Hogan says hello from WR cast off island. Is he the 1 in 10,000 you are talking about cause I think your math is WRONG. Back on topic, I didn't know anything about this pick, and originally scoffed at a RB pick. Looking closer I am very excited to get a high ceiling player at skill position of need. I have been very excited with how this draft played out. Sorta wondering what we can get from the UDFA class.

So I don't think consensus means every single person so I don't think you misused it. However, with some time to think about this situation, I think it was that no one knew what to think after the late breaking news. Since it was announced so close to the draft no one even had time to ask him "WTF." Teams are risk averse and so universal consensus was not to use a 1st on him because microfracture surgery is tricky. Now with some time, I wouldn't be surprised if his comments get contextualized (its not that bad) and he gets taken very early in the second. We'll know soon.

Yeah I agree and understand. But I was responding to a ridiculous post that said a Jack is a "waste of a pick." Not 1st round pick but a pick. Also the poster said his knee was done. I'm not so sure. Obviously it wasn't worth a 1st round but I think hell get drafted tonight. Still hoping it us

I feel as if you are overstating the seriousness of his injury. They didn't necessarily say he's done; so much as say the risk was too high. I'm not sure why you say its a waste of a pick. Its risky but the reward is possibly a generational player (considering how the game is changing). I do agree that it seems all the physicians had similar diagnoses.

Someone did something like this with Nkemdiche and I like it for Lawson too 3-4 Base Shaq NT Dareus Lawson Hughes Z Brown P Brown Nickel Shaq WIlliams Dareus Hughes Z Brown P Brown Gives Williams some rest while not asking too much from your NT or Lawson. I wonder what others think.

Agreed. Take the gifts that have been given

sucks but good players get drafted. Still lots of talent out htere

Lots of talent falling for us. Very excited

agreed on the reason and the distaste of the pick

You've been spot on so far. Hope this doesn't start a LB run

You don't go looking for an RT in the first round. But agree on taking Tunsil for replacing Glenn potentially.

Does this mean hes falling or that hes picked?

He didn't impress me with the film I watched (I forget the game). I think he had two sacks in the game (one was cleaning up his teammates pressure). The rest was not very impressive (I don't think he played man coverage, zone was meh, and he got pushed around on the run). That added up to a meh because he was so one dimensional (speed rush only), but I really don't know much.

EJ's contract is guranteed. Why cut him?

I'll take your virgins instead....?

I'm sacrificing goats hoping he does.

Yes I'm on crack they didnt even win 9 games last year. Waiting because they can and don't have cap room (been discussed on other threads). Yes we will pay more for him and the organization has made it clear they are ok with that. At this time they are able to win with him.

TT says hello with a 9-5 record. Also if the defense was so poor last year doesn't that make TT even better?

Trying to temper my expectations but I'm pretty excited about potentially landing him.

I think he didn't state his point well (or maybe I'm misunderstanding). I think he is saying that he thinks TT would not have been here last year (or in 2016) without Rex. Hard to say how much Roman value him.

Honestly after watching him carry the ball, I think he might be ok. He was a punishing runner (as you expect for a LB). I can't imagine that helped his knee any. Now that he's delivering the hits maybe his knee will be ok...?

But by all accounts Jack is a very hard worker in the film room. I forget the quote but when he lined up against Nelson Agholor from USC, he said he watched all of his college games. Dude does the work. Also he's a LB and covered an NFL level WR!!!! In that game Jack almost had as many total offensive yards as the NFL level WR he just shut down. I think that shows he knows his way around TWO football playbooks!!! As bandit said 3 years on a rookie contract for that level is worth it.

Darby would've had to still be here because Leodis was on IR heading into the season. Hard to speculate how Schwartz's D would've performed without a second CB. Without Roman its also harder to speculate how the offense would've performed. Do we even get Tyrod without Rex or Roman? Do we start the season with EJ or Cassel? I can't wait til we can stop speculating about the season that was, and start speculating on the season to come. This team has a lot of talent, and the holes can be filled via THIS draft (probably not others) if the cards fall our way (if 4 QBs go before 19).

I think Brown and Blanton have a lot of potential to contribute. I think one of these two will be successful here.