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    Injuries vs Steelers - Update from McDermott

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    3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

     

    The Chiefs won't be trotting out the awful secondary that Davis took advantage of in that game... They might have the best CB duo in the league and they're all coached extremely well. I think this will need to be another Kincaid/Shakir game, with a big helping of Allen's legs. And that would be true whether Davis was playing or not.

    Even if Davis were back I agree it would/should be a Kincaid/shakir game. But I think he could have a role if he were healthy. The CBs they have are great partly cause they are so physical. Gabe has shown he can play that style and would be a good known quantity if shakir struggles with it. 
     

    thanks for the updates btw

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    Bills sign Matt Haack

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    2 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

     

    If Martin is out for the rest of the playoffs (which feels right), would you consider IR cause we only get 2 PS callups.  With LB and CB depth stretched (WR a bit too) would we wanna save the call ups for those?  If martin is back after a week this doesnt matter.

    1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    I believe he’s our emergency everything. Punter, kicker, holder, CB, and QB.

    I hear McD has him as his emergency contact too.

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    The New Tuck Rule

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    If a player is out of bounds they shouldnt be allowed to play the ball until they reestablish in bounds.  Throw the illegal touching flag and replay the down.  its not as good as a turnover but if a player goes out of bounds and then touches the ball that seems pretty clear to me (particularly for the stupid make a kickoff out of bounds call).  Crucially this is different than almost all catches when a player is inbounds but doesnt stay inbounds after making first contact.  

    Injuries vs Steelers - Update from McDermott

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    37 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    Been busy with work all day.  I skimmed a few pages but didn’t see anything concrete.  Except Bernard’s X-rays negative (could be a two week injury) and Spector has a back injury that is basically just pain management 

     

    also seems like Douglas and Dodson have decent chances of playing.  

     

    Any someone post any updates on Taron, Benford and McGovern?

    Taron will have to set a new PR for getting out of CP but he has been quick before 

    Benford is a torn meniscus. May just be pain management 

    mcgovern went back in the game I think and seems fine?

    6 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

    Anyone have any Martin updates?  This is significant 

    He’s out

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    Best Players to not win an MVP

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    57 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

     

    I'm sure all the fans in Baltimore would agree with you.

     

    The simple question to answer is if Josh Allen is significantly more valuable, why did he manage to lose two more games and likely had been three if last game mattered to Ravens.  Take the Denver, NE, Jax games.  If the Bills had won two of them good chance then Allen would be the MVP.

     

    38 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

     

    Agree with that part, but also add in third part, number of wins.  Think it may be different too if Bills had lost 3 games instead to KC, Dallas, and Miami  good playoff teams instead of Jax, NE, and Denver . Add to that the Int's Allen through in those games hurt his chances.

    Josh left the field in the 4th quarter with a lead and less than 2 minutes in 3 of our 6 losses.  Wins are a team stat period.  Thats why he has less wins.  The ravens have a better team; their receivers get more open, more defensive EPA.  Josh has contributed more and it shows in the numbers.  Jackson is great but he gets a ton of support from the team that Josh doesnt.

    [Vague Title] Officiating

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    Just now, Calidiehard said:

    That DH was absolutely a penalty. The refs just had to decide if it was going to be PI or DH. They made the right call as the ball was so far out of bounds, but it doesn't negate the holding or illegal contact after 5 yards. 

    can't find this replay but yeah this is what i thought happened and then josh air mailed it.

    [Vague Title] Officiating

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    21 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

    I think that the replay rules are silly.  If you challenge, and your challenge is successful, why should that be held against you?

     

    Refs are afraid to call what they see on the field, knowing that the challenge system is in place to overturn some of their egregious calls or missed calls.  However, by making or not making a call, the referees' call or non-call is presumed correct, with the threshold for overturning via replay (assuming that (1) the play is reviewable, and (2) a team has the ability to challenge the call) being quite high.

    Successful challenges are not held against us.  Thats why we could challenge the second one, was cause the first one was correct.  But you dont get a third unless your first two are successful.  I do agree though, them messing calls up causing us to use challenge in the first instance still hurt us for the whole game.  If they get the first fumble correct we still have challenges in the second half if we dont get the second challenge still (though it seemed like a recovery to me).  

    Best Players to not win an MVP

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    28 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

    I have absolutely no idea why Jackson is being viewed as having an MVP season other than marketing purposes. 
     

    CMC, Cheetah, and Dak are all more deserving. 
     

    I think Allen is the only player in history to have 40+ TDs and NOT win MVP. 

    QB and best player on the best team (1 seed in harder conference and pummeled the 1 seed in the other conference, both could rest week 18).  All of that is team stuff to me.

     

    Lol allen being the only player with 40 TDs and being the only non winner (i need to check that) cause hes done 4 times!!!!!  

    Best Players to not win an MVP

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    4 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:

     

    I think Matthew Stafford is the same QB now that he was in Detroit.  I'm simply saying that a huge amount of a teams success is predicated on the play of it's QB.  Which position do you think is more important?

    100% agree its hugely important to W/L which is often why its assigned to QB.  It does matter more than any other position, but it is still a team stat. 

     

    So winning MVP because youre team is really good (49ers, Ravens) and youre the QB doesnt seem correct.  Look at the QB specific numbers at least.  Give me 4th quarter comebacks (of which josh has 8 this year, but the defense let 4 become L's) which is also a bit of a team thing but is definitely more QB focused cause it takes away defense and special teams (besides the GW FG).  

    [Vague Title] Officiating

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    Be careful, steelers fans think the refs screwed them.  They are pointing to "fake" Josh slide, late hit, and DPI on 4th down as their examples.  I think they didnt get a TO off Josh like they all thought would happen, so they should just accept they lost.  

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    Best Players to not win an MVP

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    9 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

    It's only on QBs.  Here, look at Diggs-not there.  It IS a QB specific stat.  

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm

     

    See my comment above.  If you think QB W/L record is a QB stat, which implies to me that you think it defines how good a QB is playing, then you mustve thought Stafford got a so much better when he went to the Rams.  Just a crazy career resurgence to go from 5-11 to 12-5 means he must have completely changed his game around (this is sarcasm he was pretty much the same player he was the previous 12 years).  PFR might not give you the W/L record for every position but you can do the same exercise.  Did you see that steelers were 1-11 without watt coming into this game?  Its just that analysis.  

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    8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    He put up MVP numbers in 2020 but Aaron Rodgers was unreal that year.  He's had some bad luck this year.  His three interception game came on the first game of the year on MNF.  He also had some really bad luck on interceptions as it seems there weren't hardly any drops by CB's like you see with other QB's.  Both helped fuel the turnover machine narrative.  He takes more chances than most QB's but not to the extent the national media portrays.

    I dont have PFF but i believe his turnover worthy throw rate is down a good bit.  hes just gotten super unlucky on tipped balls and other weird things (taking away drops he is also the most efficient which is crazy).  Overall, yeah hes getting screwed by the "narrative."  

    3 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:

     

    Yeah, I agree it's not like the touch the ball on every offensive play ... oh wait ... never mind.

    By this logic you think Stafford became a much better QB when we went to LAR.  Cause his W/L record is so much better than when he was in Det.  So as W/L is a QB stat as said he mustve really regressed just before he was traded.  Or maybe hes always been good and the team around him was garbage a few of those years so QB W/L record is not a good stat.  

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