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Here's a timeline which appears to try and keep any political judgment out. Wilson-Plame

I think you have your facts wrong. What appears to be coming out of this investigation is that Wilson was correct, and the administration engaged in a dirty tactics campaign to discredit him--probably the articles you refer to as "facts." One of those dirty tactics was the outing of his wife, which is what's being investigated by Fitzgerald. If the facts are that she "wasn't undercover" when she was outed, I don't think there would've been an investigation in the first place. At any rate, we disagree on the facts; but those facts should be made public shortly.

What do you know, the old, "but they were worse" response.... Or is it, "I'm rubber, you are glue..." response?

It's a rhetorical question; I know the answer... Apparently someone high in the administration could be going down for this--the outing of a CIA agent. However, it appears that the investigation also leads to the "selling" of the Iraq war to the American people--that is, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al knew much of their information was dubious, but used it anyway to trump up a case for the war. I'm sure some here will argue this is as trivial as trying to impeach a president for a blow job.....

This is a question for anyone who tapes the games. My guess is that it's a combination of Schobel and Anderson, since it seems nearly all of the big runs have come from that side. I saw Denney in for Schobel a couple of times too. LBs at fault too? Can it be fixed with the personnel we have? If we can't stop the run, I can't see too many more wins coming...

Ahhh...it's been a long time since we've had a good debate. Very clever.

Well, it must be a scandal if Fox carried it... Just typifies what will end up as one of the worst presidencies in history. Seems many on the right are jumping ship after his latest bad decisions; never happen here though. Someone needs to start posting the anti-"Bush Bad" post-- "Bush can do no wrong." foxnews

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It would be interesting to know what media outlet showed an "edited" version.

I thought this was a thread about Larry Franklin spying for israel, but i should know better...

The apple doesn't fall far from the Bush...

How could they do anything here? the reason we are ifighting them in the streets of Iraq is so we don't have to fight them in the streets of America....where's the sarcasm button?

So typical of the Bush suck-up crew--bush can do no wrong. Nothing is ever Bush's fault. It's just whiney Bush critics. You guys are as bad as the old regime--the Clinton suck ups. No, actually, you guys are worse. It's a religous cult here: Conservatives good; liberals bad. What will it take for you republidiots to realize both major parties are corrupt? The right wing has you eating out of their hands...

Collapse of the dollar?

Maybe the story you've posted is not all that it's cracked up to be. Just like Vietnam, the right tried to paint the anti-war movement as communists and anti-troop. This story suggests they are using the same tactics this time too. The real story???

Gee, what do you know...a thread that should be on PPP, except that it's attacking a liberal. I wonder how long it would've been here if you substituted Rush Limbaugh...??? The over/under would've been 5 posts.

Interesting, only 2 NFC teams made the top 10. Personally, I think this year will be a lot like last year: maybe 3 real elite teams (Pats, Pitt, and Eagles), then the second tier, of which the Bills should be one based upon their defense alone.

And the video was shot in Hollywood?

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I met a GI on a 4-day leave while in an Atlanta airport bar a couple of weeks ago. He commented that our media spoonfeeds us. I inquired whether it was worse or better. He said it was much worse than what we're shown. He said they laugh at the coverage they see (he mentioned FOX and CNN). He did say the morale was fine, and, like they always have, they rely on each other. I bought him a beer and wished him well....

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of the right. It wouldn't be necessary if Clinton were president right now; could you imagine the posts about Iraq from the usual suspects here? Maybe they'd finally get the fact that you can support your troops but disagree with the policy/startegy of the administration...

If you're there sept. 1, the Spin doctors are playing Thursday in the Square. Best event throughout the summer. Also, the chicken wing festival is labor day weekend. The wing eating contest is great. There's a little asian woman competing with guys who tip the scales at 300--sonya something. Two years ago I saw her break the record in the pre-lims, but she must have od, cuz she failed to win the next day. Once you get to town, pick up an Artvoice, it'll have all the info you need for a good time in the city.

Between an incident with an overzealous previous moderator and life's ups and downs, I decided to take a long break.

"I'm going to cut taxes, increase military spending, and balance the budget." R. Reagan.

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