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Ok, I'm back on the OT bandwagon.....at least until the next post...

There hasn't been much news on CArrington, and I've been wondering... I wondered if Pettine would have an interest? It will be interesting to see what happens if AC hits the market, and what Pettine/Clev do? Hopefully the Bills will sign him before that happens (1 year as you suggest).

i think we all agree, a trade only happens because another team wants a specific player at your pick. The trade is based on someone being there, like Austin last year. If Houston takes a QB, the rams will take clowney. If there's a OT or WR the rams want at 9, and the bills don't, could happen. This gives the bills 4 in the top 75.

thanks. I assumed it was like that. They really do need to upgrade lg and rt.

I think a very doable trade is with the Rams at 13 (will they partner again this year?). We'd get their 3rd (75th) according to the draft value chart, which would give the Bills 4 picks in the top 75. I don't think I'd go further back. I want to be picking ahead of the other AFCE teams.

Interesting. How many of the latter games were away? I think this is where a strong O-line is needed most, those away games. Running game has to be good and protection is more difficult with crowd noise.

That and Mayock's grade has Lewan as his 16th best player. He's got Mosely, Benjamin, and Ebron ranked 7-9. It looks like it's Mathews or Robinson at 9, otherwise one of the 3 listed.

Jeremiah has Borland #43 in top 50. Was impressed with him at senior bowl. No skov.

These guys also have him at 9. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nfl-draft-top-250-201235564--nfl.html

Doc, these guys seem to think Gilmore won't be a worry, in fact just the opposite.

I'm not sure who is behind "Scout's Inc", FWIW their top 32 is listed on the ESPN draft site, and they have Lewan ranked #9.http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

Agreed, but it will depend on what they can sign him for? Also, no one has seen Moeaki play since coming off his injury, so having the current group going into the draft is a good option, on depending Chandler's price...

I do like your logic. The Bills should get 2 starters easily from this draft and both should be significant upgrades. We should be discussing in terms of those first two picks, though I think they can find a starter at G in the 3rd too, given the current level of play.

Which LB position is Mack projected for? Since I know he's not a MLB, would Kiko stay there in this scenario? Or would Mack replace Hughes? If it's a Mack for Hughes and tiny for Pears vs. Lewan for Pears and Skov for Moats (but moved to the middle), I'm not sure it's as easy to say which outcome is better?

I thought this was a Lewan post... He's nasty and a need.

while I like and think this is a possible trade, the numbers suggest it's a 3rd, not a second

Stop making sense!In FA, they will not over-spend for external (may do so for Byrd). Given that, I think the Bills can find a LB and G in FA that upgrade the position (because they are so weak now), and they could easily find someone to improve on Graham, all of these without breaking the bank. These additions would at least give them the ability to target those positions later in the draft. However, I don't think they can find an OT, who would fit their spending budget, that would be a significant upgrade over Pears. They'll have to find that in the draft.

Thanks. I've read that some think Lewan has more potential than Mathews, and he is on the cusp of being in the top 10.I agree with your strategy, but I'm afraid the Bills won't find a trade partner, so they'll have to pick one of those four names (includes Lewan). Some think Mosely should be in that mix as well, and I do think that having a better run-stuffing MLB is a big need, if he fits that Bill. I think this is going to be a wild draft throughout that top 10, given so many projected QB picks AND double picks for the Rams and Browns. You just don't know what some of those QB needy teams really think about the QBs projected...

It's one of the top 2 positions of need at the moment, so it would be great to hear from some local experts about him, yawin S, skov, and anyone else not named Mosley, since he's well known.

I'm all over the place with this draft, but more recently leaned toward OT. I started a thread on OTs a week or so ago wondering if Lewan was justifiable at 9 because I thought Robinson and Mathews would be gone. I've seen Lewan ranked as high as 10, and has moved up other boards. At this point, I'm going to withdraw my OT pick and remain neutral until I see what happens in FA. However, as of now, their biggest holes/weaknesses are OL and a LB to pair with kiko to stop the run.

these guys say OT is the biggest need too.http://www.footballoutsiders.com/four-downs/2014/four-downs-afc-east I don't think either Mathews or Robinson will be there, which is why I brought up Lewan as a possibility in another thread.

After reading that, it looks like we need to draft a MLB because it sounds like kiko is better suited to play the will in that alignment.

this summarizes my reasoning for the initial post--I think the first 2 will be gone, and I think Lewan would be a justifiable pick at 9. While I'd prefer to see them trade back a bit, I don't see a high likelihood there will be a trade partner at 9. First, with such a deep draft this year, giving up picks in R2/3 would be stupid; second I don't see many scenarios for teams wanting to jump into 9--what player would need to be there for a team to jump, and will that player fall to 9?I'd say we are very likely picking at 9. While I'd be ok with Ebron or Mosley/Mack, I'd prefer the OT. Is it may yet?

In my haste to post before some work, I forgot to put a "Kiper Kaveat"....You can criticize everyone's expert opinion, even the experts because, as we all know, the draft can be a crap shoot--R1 busts and R6 hall of famers... I don't have the time to watch film, so they are my source for better or worse...

There's an article on BB.com that has Kiper's discussion of these 3+ a few others who might go in R1. He says these 3 will probably grade higher than any OT taken in R1 last year. Good crop. http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Kiper-Top-3-OTs-better-than-2013-trio/d207b2da-20d3-4e4d-9ffc-0f07e2ea0f22