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Yeah....in the end this is what it comes down to. There have been times in the past where he takes responsibility for losses and we know that it wasn't the case and he's just being a good teammate and leader. But last night he was definitely responsible for the loss. If he just checks it down and plays a boring and simple game, we win. It wouldn't have been pretty, but we would have won. Instead he actively hurt the team with his play. He needs to get it together and I think he will.

Well, it's not getting much better working my way back through the game. It was bad. However, while there is enough blame to go around, looking back on it, I think we were a little to hard on certain players and coaches. Now, I will say that I haven't looked at the All-22 yet to confirm what I saw from the broadcast angles, but I will do that and adjust anything if necessary. 1. Tre White......far from the biggest problem in this game, so I am just going to get this out of the way now. First, the TD. I'm sorry, but if anyone if going to give him grief over that, I don't know what to tell you. He was in good position, made a play on the ball, and the WR made an amazing catch. But, other than that play, you never heard his name in coverage and he was solid in the pass game. As for his 2 missed tackles that led to big plays. Yes, they were a problem and he has to make those tackles. However, on the 83 yard run, he was put in a terrible position. We were completely aligned wrong at the snap and McDermott has admitted as much. We were playing a gap defense, and the 2nd level was off a gap and should have been bumped over to Tre's side. By the time the play was coming Tre's way, he was pretty much responsible for 2 gaps. However, even with that happening, he put himself in position to make the tackle for a short gain and just didn't get it done like we'd want him to do there. But for those just railing on him saying that he was horrible last night, that just isn't true. Yes, make the tackles. But he was done no favors by his teammates. 2. Terrell Bernard......Again, he wasn't perfect by any means, but for someone making his first start at MLB, he did some good things. He shot gaps and made a couple good stops in the run game. His average depth of tackle on his run stops was only like a yard and a half or something. He put himself in good position on several pass plays to take away throws that went unnoticed because the ball didn't go to those spots. He did allow a couple of receptions that were killers, though. It's going to happen, unfortunately, and the Jets attacked him a couple of times. He did get wiped out of some plays for sure because of his lack of size, but he wasn't the tire fire that this board made him out to be last night. Cover 1 actually just released a breakdown of his game and I would encourage you all to check it out. He wasn't perfect, but he wasn't as bad as everyone was making him out to be. Regardless, if your defense give up 16 points, you would take that any week of the season and should win those games. 3 Ken Dorsey....The most controversial one on this list for sure. I will preface this by saying that he didn't call a great game overall. There were certain calls in this game that were head scratching and unforgivable (I'm looking right at you Draw on 2nd and 15). But there were definite times in this game where he had the right call at the right time and guys were running wide open and Allen didn't make the proper read. When Allen said this game was on him, it really was. There were several times that Dorsey had the right call and for whatever reason, Allen ignored his first read, second read, and sometimes his third read where any one of them would have allowed for a positive play and first downs. Unfortunately, many of these brain farts for Allen turned into INTs instead of easy positive plays. These plays were not on Dorsey. They are on Allen. Again, Dorsey deserves his share of the blame in this game. If for nothing else, he deserves blame for not finding a way to reel in Allen when he was going off the tracks. His game plan was fundamentally flawed, however. I, and several others, noted going into the game that the weakest part of the Jets defense was their LBs in coverage over the middle of the field. Kincaid and Knox should have eaten in this game over the middle. And, for whatever reason, it looked like we wanted nothing to do with the middle of the field last night and I can't understand why. Kincaid looked the part last night, especially on the couple of catches he did have. But, he only had 2 catches on 2 targets! That is inexcusable in this match-up. The way the game set up and the way he played, he probably should have received 10 targets. If Dorsey and Allen just want all the way conservative and just checked it down to Kincaid and Knox underneath all game, we probably walk out of there with a win. All that said, Dorsey deserves his share of the blame for sure, but Allen did him no favors ignoring his intended reads on several occasions. I am willing to bet the All-22 will be a lot more favorable to Dorsey than many want to admit. He just didn't get any help at all from his QB. There is plenty more we could get into this game about. And, I am sure we will over the next couple of days. But these were a few things that jumped out on the initial rewatch. Again, if the All-22 shows a different story I will update my thoughts, but there is a lot of trash being talked about this game and I just am not sure it was all warranted. What is warranted, is any criticism that Allen is getting today. While I will say the first half was not terrible and was probably passable in many ways, that 2nd half was atrocious and maybe the worst football I have ever seen him play in the NFL.

There's a lot to be said about this game......and everyone is saying it. But man, would you rather be the Bills and just lose an awful game or would you rather be the Jets, win the game, but lose your HOF QB for the season. I bet if you ask the coach of the Jets, he'd rather have Rodgers under center next week than winning tonight. The Jets won the battle, but probably lost any chance of winning anything meaningful this season and maybe next season as well.

He made a couple of nice plays, but his lack of size was really used against him tonight. He was manhandled at times and just got blown up on more plays than you would like to see. It's his first game, so I am willing to cut him a little slack, but he has a long way to go. In the end, he just might not be physical enough to win consistently. Won't be surprised to see someone else starting there sooner than later.

He should have had 10 targets tonight.

The defense gave up a few huge plays because of missed tackles on the edge. And the offense really stunk. But it wasn't all bad. It will be forgotten because of the way the rest of the game went, but man......the defensive line, particularly Groot and Floyd, were monsters out there. I can't wait until Miller is back and joins them. They were unblockable at times and it was nice to see. Hopefully they keep building on tonight.

It's definitely trending in that direction. Now, the defense was not terrible for the most part tonight and the line played well. But there were a couple of crucial missed tackles that led to huge plays against us and cost us points. But he wimped out on 4th and 2 early in the game and his OC had perhaps the worst possible game plan against this team. It's a long season and there's a ton of games left to figure it out, but there is a lot to get corrected, especially on offense.

No excuse required. He stunk in the 2nd half. On to next week. Long season and it's about playing your best at the end of the year. Eat this and move on.

I am not well.....

OH......MY......

Whelp...... It's gonna be on Bass unless the offense does something stupid which, based on tonight, is completely possible.

Whelp.....Allen is going to have his chance at redemption, but for the first time in a long time, I don't have any confidence he will get it done.

Still think not going for it on 4th and 2 was a major mistake.

Well, what are you gonna do on that one......

More crappy zone coverage on 3rd down

I know he's banged up, and he's got a tough matchup, but McGovern has been awful.

Hell of a play by Allen there

Tre not having a good tackling night.

I said going into this game that the weakness of the Jets are the LBs in coverage over the middle of the field. You can count on a couple of fingers how much we have tested that part of the field. Kincaid and Knox should have double the targets they do. That's on Dorsey.

Nice series for the D. Outside of that last throw, I have been OK with the way Allen has played, but it's time to settle down a bit. Diggs should be the first read because he is HIM. But if he is not one on one, he should be immediately looking for Kincaid. Dude is open and basically 10 yards + guaranteed. Stop with the delayed hand-off that is putting us behind the sticks as well. Not good on 3rd down right now.

Defense isn't playing terrible, but these handful of big plays are killers.

Nice stop. Held them to 3. Now we need to go get 7 ourselves.

Not only are we getting nothing out of the MLB position, but it is a major liability. Made a nice tackle on that last play, but we need more. Need to figure out something there. Now find a way to get off the field only giving up 3!

I like the fact that Allen was a lot more patient than he was at the end of last season and taking the check down quite a bit. He has a couple catches already, but Kincaid could be a bigger factor in the 2nd half. He's been open, and has turned up field on both his catches. He's getting open underneath. Feed him and force them out of the Cover 2.

Frustrating finish to that drive. But, the good news is that we have a 2 score lead on the road against a good defense at the half and we haven't played our best yet. Hopefully we can get things turned around at the half and come out and finish these drives with TDs instead of FGs in the 2nd half. We're moving the ball OK, but we need more out of the offense in the 2nd. And, as bad as the defense has been on a few plays, only giving up 3 is good stuff. We'll take only giving up 3 in the 2nd half too.