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Well, with all this speculation about us getting 4th round compensation (the first pick on the second day of the draft), I thought I would take a little trip back in time to look at how other teams have done with the first pick on the second day. We all know there are star players drafted in the 4th round in the past, but how have teams done with the first pick? Even though several talented players slip through the cracks on the first day, in the last 10 years teams have not faired real well with the first pick on the second day. PICK # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 2005 102 Philadelphia Sean Considine SS Iowa 2004 97 N.Y. Giants Reggie Torbor OLB Auburn 2003 98 Cincinnati Dennis Weathersby CB Oregon State 2002 99 Houston Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State 2001 96 New England Kenyatta Jones T South Florida 2000 95 Cleveland Lewis Sanders CB Maryland 1999 96 Indianapolis Paul Miranda CB Central Florida 1998 93 Indianapolis Steve McKinney C Texas A&M 1997 97 New England Damon Denson G Michigan 1996 96 Tampa Bay Jason Odom T Florida If the Bills do end up with this pick, I hope they fair better than these teams! There were many stars drafted in the 4th round of these drafts, but these guys wouldn't qualify for "star" status. I know, this doesn't mean much, but I thought it might interest some people out there!

Here is the thing though........I don't see Williams being there at 5 anymore. I really see the Saints a a great candidate to land Williams. From what I am hearing and reading, Williams and DA BRICK are the 2 guys that they are going to choose between. But they reall need help on defense. However, I could see DA BRICK heading there as well now that they have DB. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is a VERY good chance of Super Mario already being off the board by 5. The Jets would also look at him at 4. With all the recent developments with the top teams in the draft, things are not shaping up like they were 3 or 4 weeks ago. A lot of the top teams have addressed their needs in other ways and are now looking in a different direction. It will be interesting to say the least!

**UPDATE** Jeff Morrison from WGR just stated he talked to the Bills and Moulds' agent and they bot DENY all the reports. They did tell him that there are serious negotiations going to between both the Bills and Texans and the Bills and Philidelphia. But there has not been a trade yet! 5:15 PM

Come on.......don't do this....not there will be 100 threads about us trading for Joe Horn or something. Just to clarify for those who may not get it, WGR reported that Mourlds was NOT traded yet to Houston or anybody despite the current reports from Houston that a deal was done.

per WGR....... WGR's Jeff Morrison just reported at 4:36 that NO deal has taken place......and there are no talks going on right now. Who knows what is going on.......

All I can say that if Nall is our starter this year.....or Holcolmb......we will not win 5 games. It would be tough to win 5 games anyways, and I am not saying Losman is the answer either, but our QB situation might be the worst in the league if Losman is traded......

If push came to shove, I would make that deal....... However, I think that Moulds and a 4th this year would be more fair. Maybe even one of the thirds we have. But, if we could trade an older guy that doesn't want to be here and a couple of mid round draft choices for an up and coming star, I would do it. However, that is dependent on getting a good contract worked out with Walker. He will be going into the last year of his deal. You can't let him walk for nothing at the end of the season. There better be a solid 4 or 5 year deal signed with Walker first. If that happens, I'd make the deal (as long as Walker is cleared medically. I am not sure on his recovery).

The fact that the ref was standing RIGHT THERE OVER THE PUCK should have been enough! Why even review it when the ref is standing there with a clear view of the puck across the line!!!! The ref should have just told the guys in Toronto that he saw the puck in the net, thus signaled a goal! How can the ref that definitively signaled goal all of a sudden take it away? Makes now sense and the Sabres get screwed again........

Like I said, I think we have been outplaying them for most of the game......and if that GOAL actually counts, we have all the momentum on our side and maybe we start another winning streak with this game instead of dropping our fourth straight. I'm not saying that the Sabres are great, but a win tonight could have been a huge change for this team and got us going again. Granted, the things that have been going our way haven't been the last 4 games, but I don't want to hear that this team isn't good....or even as good as we thought they were. This team, before our recent skid had the best record in the entire league over the last 50 games!!!! You can't fake a 50 game stretch! This team is good....maybe not the best in the league, but they are good. This was a game that would have got us right back in the race for the Eastern Conferance. When a team is struggling,you can't take away goals that should count. That was a game changer......

The thing is, that changed the WHOLE game around! I think we have been outplaying them most of the game and we get the gols to tie it, two unanswered and we are rolling. They take the GOAL away and that just changes everything.... What a bunch of crap.

Ref standing right there looking at the puck, calls it a goal and then they take it away....... THE PUCK WAS IN THE NET! What a bunch of crap......

We still need to address the O-Line in front of him or it will be much of the same as we got last year. The O-line is what makes good RBs, GREAT!

I don't want to hear anythking about "happy feet." Have you ever watch Peyton Manning? He has the "happiest feet" in the history of the NFL!! He does a TWO-STEP every time he drops back to pass! He looks like a 3 year old in need of a bathroom! Granted, Losman is not perfect. Far from it. But using "happy feet" as an excuse for poor play after watching guys like Manning dancing back there is not good. I am not saying that JP is Manning, I am just saying that "happy feet" will not make or break a QB. And as for the "rag arm" comment........that has to be the worst argument EVER against Losman. Losman has his faults, but his arm strength is definately NOT one of them. He may not be the most accurate guy in the world, but it is definately not due to lack of arm strength......In fact, he may throw the ball TOO HARD at times which gets him in trouble. You might have Losman's arm confused with that other QB on our team that can't throw the ball over 3 yards 98% of the time. There are a lot of knocks against Losman, but these 2 you bring up are the least of the problems.......and may not be problems at all!

per V-Coach. Started 9 games at center for Minnesota in 2005. Sounds like more depth to me.

per NFL network.....

I'm sorry, but I can find a rookie out there somewhere that can give me what Josh Reed does and more and I can pick him up dirt cheap. Any receiver can drop ball after ball and run a 4.8. No matter how "cap friendly" the contract is, I could find the same production, much cheaper.

For a guy that I wanted out of the organization, he certainly got paid like a star..... Yet, we can't pay Bentley 6 Mill a year or Pickett 4 Mill......Where our REAL needs are. Let's review. We now have a backup TE making 2 Mill, A 5th WR making 2 Mill, and we haven't even looked at the real problem on this team which is OL. I have no clue as to what they are smoking over there. Ricky Williams must have come in for a secret visit. This is pure crap that they are doing over there.

Well, it is just that there has to be 4-6 posts on the FRONT PAGE of the newsboard discussing this. Pretty hard to miss if you just take the time to look!

In what seems to be more BREAKING NEWS, there is early word out of Miami that they have traded for Culpepper! Fast and furious I tell ya!

I personally am shocked!

Yes he is........we would have to give up a 6th Rounder to get him. That is if Arizona doesn't match our offer first.

OK, I found it........Per BuffaloBills.com Free agents Ryan Pickett (DT, St. Louis) and Reggie Wells (G, Arizona) visited One Bills Drive on Tuesday. Scheduling conflicts stopped the 6-2, 330-pound Pickett, who started 59 of 75 games in five years with the Rams, from speaking to the media. However, Wells was available to answer a few questions and Buffalobills.com was there to capture the audio. Well, he got out of town in a hurry. I know, he has other visits scheduled, but I was hoping to get him signed before he got a chance to leave. Probably about a 33% chance he signs here now........Buffalo, NYG, and GB all have the strongest interest. Guess We'll find out in a couple of days.

Where did you hear that?

I personally don't know a whole lot about hom, but he seems like a pretty honest guy. Reggie Wells Audio No Pickett audio as of yet........hopefully there will be after he signs a contract with the Bills later tonight! HA!

Probably from the seat of his pants......