GunnerBill

I think Andreessen, Solomon, Ingram and Grable are safe personally. None of those four make it through waivers IMO so Beane has to keep them on the main roster. Davidson I think will but its 50/50. MVS will health allowing.

Fair. But why not have 19 or 20 games?

I don't have "concerns" about Coleman so much as I think the guy we drafted is the guy we drafted and while, of course, the guy we drafted to me wasn't one you easily projected to winning on the outside regularly enough. And that is why you end up where you are talking about whether or not Mack Hollins plays over him. I think there is a world where Keon Coleman proves he can play and we still need a true outside receiver. The construction of this receiver room rather than a single individual or single decision. At least that is how I interpret it. But @Kirby Jackson can speak for himself if that is incorrect.

Hmmm. I agree with the first para. But I only agree to an extent with the second para. I don't know that it is about development arcs so much as it is about the skillset. The things we have seen Keon do well in camp are the things we saw him do well in college. The things we saw him struggle with in games are the things we saw him struggle with in college. I am interested to see how much they use Keon in the slot. Because if he is struggling to produce outside and they feel pressure to make it work I can see them going there quite quickly. And then the outside question gets even more perplexing.

I think he knows what he is. But he is s competitor. He is going to want a chance to compete for a job.

I think it is a brave but odd decision for Canales to not play any starters at all in pre-season. When proven, strong, vet teams do it I get it and support it. But new regimes with questions all over the roster? I'd be wanting those reps myself.

I'd rather Darius Robinson were healthy. He isn't very good. Was Zay fighting for Jesus again?

Haha. I think he probably knew the Panthers weren't taking him when they did the second trade back because Dan Morgan probably did tell him. But when they executed the first trade back it wasn't just KC... the Cowboys who were by then at #29 were a possible receiver team, as were the Ravens at #30, the 49ers took a receiver at #31. There is zero chance he could have been confident "his guy" was surviving those four picks. It was clearly "don't love any of these guys, let's take the extra pick, move back and take the best of what's left." When Beane was "his guy" he trades UP not back. Elam and Kincaid are proof of that.

That isn't what he is saying. He is saying if your first round pick (Coleman was #33 but point stands) isn't starting and is behind a complete journeyman like Mack Hollins that is a reason to be concerned. He is not saying Coleman is a failure or Beane is a failure. Or that all first round picks must start.

You said he has taken literally all snaps with the ones. I understand what you mean now you explained but that isn't what you said.

The bolded isn't true. He did start off with the 1s it wasn't a start with the 2s and earn it situation, if that's what you mean but they have been rotating the top 4 with the ones and were rotating MVS and Shavers in a bit there too in the middle of camp.

You wouldn't find them. I am happy to own hating the Josh Allen pick. I did. A two year crusade is simply not true.

I didn't. Find the two year crusade. You won't be able to. I hated the pick. But aftet that I was completely fair to him on how he played game by game.

Alec Anderson. I would imagine the starting OL to be Grable and Van Demark at tackle, Collins left guard, Anderson Center, Clapp right guard. Because that has been the 2nd team OL all summer.

But that is as much on Brandon Beane and the coaches as it is on AJ himself. They drafted a big, base end, and asked him to become an outside speed rusher.

Yea kinda depends what the Philly offense looks like. But he should have a LOT of opportunity as the slot with those guys outside.

Quite possible

In a straight up who you taking I might take Dotson but it would be close. But in Shakir and a 3rd round pick or Dotson it is Shakir and the pick without doubt. I only had just over a round between them when I evaluated them coming out. I know Dotson went mid 1st and Shakir went 5th but I had a mid 2 on Dotson and a late 3rd on Shakir. Now at this point if you redrafted them..... they would go pretty close together.

Still crazy. Slot production is easier to get. You get more free releases. So taking a superior player who gets half a yard more per route ran outside off the boundary just because he might have an even bigger advantage over the inferior player in the slot once he gets a free release would be dumb. Yea there is a price I'd have been in on it. Not quite this price given the current makeup of our room.

Interesting analogy with the comparison to Elam.

It is the 3 I wouldn't do. If they'd have been willing to take a 4 and a 5 I might have done it. I get he is cheaper than Samuel but my question is more how do you get both on the field at the same time (and Shakir)? I think our need is more for a true outside guy. They will use Dotson as their slot. I'd be absolutely shocked if they did anything else. Moving Smith to play Dotson wide on a regular basis would be borderline insanity.

As long as Mitch is relatively short term (all indications are that he is) I am all but convinced they will do option 2. DiNucci to the PS and use his elevations. The one fly in the ointment is him balling out Saturday and some team snagging him for their 53 but I think the chances of that are super low. I'm actually surprised they haven't called Matt Barkley. He wouldn't be starting at ground zero with the playbook though with the OC change he'd need some time. And he can be your break glass in case of emergency PS option. Maybe they did before signing Brown and he said he is done. I dunno.

But you also have a bias when it comes to Dotson are liked him much more than me coming out. I think the evidence so far is very much in my favour. I agree he can't do all the things Samuel can and is probably a more natural route runner, but position wise he is a slot with Z flex. That was my point. I am not sure you are getting them both on the field.

Clapp and Jonathan are the only two candidates I can see. Would they keep Collins because he is worth nothing in a trade but trade Clapp cos he might return you a 6th or 7th?

I think he is a slot with some Z flex. But that is also what we just gave Curtis Samuel $8m per to do isn't it? I'm not sure he has shown anything to be an upgrade on Samuel. Indeed they were on the same team last year and Samuel had more targets, more receptions and more yards. I'd not have been against an early day 3 pick as a gamble on upside. But unless Samuel's turf toe is serious I don't know that I'd have been giving up more than that. It is. I think it makes a lot of sense for the Eagles, he can be a slot only in that offense with two studs getting the majority of coverage attention outside. And for Washington getting a day 2 pick back for a selection of the last regime who you don't see as a fit that is a good result.