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In the preseason, Marrone said he knew what the problem was with the knee but he would not say. Why not, what was the secret? Did he have the problem before the draft? Does anyone know? Did the problem contribute to this problem now? Will this be chronic throughout EJ!s career?

Are you all in denial? He was great last night. Character and $2.00 will get you a cup of coffee.

The first thing you have to understand is that Brandon&Whaley evidently are very smart guys to get where they are; but they are not football people, and there has not been any football people running the organization since you know when. Then it comes to there hire of Marrone and his crony from the college game. All he has done is talk a good game, but if you analyze the talk, a lot of it is nonsense. 1. During pre season he said Manuel had a small surgical knee procedure. He said he knew what it was but he would!nt say. Does anyone (and please help me here) know what the problem with the knee was? Did it ocurr before the draft? Did it have anything to do with this knee situation? 2. If I remember correctly, last weekend he said the starting QB would come from outside the Bills. 3. Yesterday he would not give a straight answer to the Freeman story. 4. Would he really say why they added a player who could not make one of the worse teams in the league!s roster? 5. How many months have gone by that he still does not have a clue as to who is better-Brown or Legursky? Thats pathetic don!t you think? 6. He would not give a straight answer to the future of Byrd who does not want to be here. 7. do you want to give him the benefit of the doubt in saying the injury to Hopkins is bad enough for him to go on IR, or do you think if Carpenter had not worked out so well, Hopkins would now be kicking? 8. He may be starting the best QB they have, but what does that say about a organization that picked up a QB that has faild with 3 other teams that needed a QB. 9. Why has!nt Hackett been made available to the media? The DC has answered questions? 10.I may be wrong on this, but I believe Marrone does not have full control of the football operation, and if I am right I can see why. As a lifelong Bills fan I hate to say this, but if you saw the Jets game last night, you can!t deny how terrific their OC was; how good the Jets were on the road, and how great (16-20) Geno Smith was. I guess thats show biz.

I!ve said this before, but David Carr might be the best available. Freeman is a retred that the other 31 teams don!t want for various reasons. Carr really has no negative body of work for years as a backup to Eli Manning in NY. Manning is like a god there, and no matter how many pics he throws this year (leading the league), he will never go to the bench as his 2 Super Bowl wins gets him a lifetime of immunity with the Giants.

When Byrd plays, will he just go through the motions not to get hurt, and get the big contract next year or will he go all out-100%-to try and help the team win? What do you all think?

Freeman is a retred who none of the other 31 teams want now, a big headache to win 1 or 2 more games? David Carr might be the best out there. Really no negative body of work or any negative work for years now as a backup to Eli Manning. Manning is like a god in NY and no matter how many more pics he throws this year (leading the league now) he will never go to the bench as his 2 Super Bowl wins gets him a lifetime of immunity.

Well said, and lets give Tuel the benefit of the doubt. Give him all his reps and don!t pull him with a pick or if the offense doesn!t move for a few series. He got thrown into the fire on the road, in a prime time game and had to have a case of the nerves ; better than what he showed, although maybe not good enough, but lets see. If anyone think Manuel will be offensive rookie of the year, you are dreaming. Accuracy leaves much to be desired plus rookie QB mistakes that all rookies make. Hopefully his upside will bear fruits with more experience. Hacketts play calling from the start has been horrible-backs running into the center of the line; pass plays to the sideline, etc. etc. This game was lost because of the secondary and special teams. At least, this young team has a chance to grow.

Wally Pip was the Yankee lst baseman who was injured and never made it back to play lst base again for the Yanks because his replacement was someone named Lou Gehrig, so it is just not true that you never lose your job because of injury.

Hopkins is another Wally Pip, and as for Powell no NFL kicker should have these 30 yard kicks