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No. Never had a good QB until Cam and was lucky to have played under Chud the first two years with Cam.
No super bowl wins. Not a on a consistent contender.
Also, just a dick who didn't play well with others. Attacked two teammates with sucker punches. First guy had a broken eye socket in film room. Never helped any of the young receivers that were brought in grow.
If it took Reed, Loftin and Brown that long; and in light of the fact that his ranking is going to plummet in upcoming years do to passing becoming the default offensive play... He might make it in 30 years as an old timer.
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Am I the only one that's pretty ok with the results? One of the best defenses in the league going against a new install offense, and the offense scores 13 points? I know it's not great... But I am actually encouraged....
Edit: typos
Been saying it would take a while for offense to gel during regular season......first pre preseason scrimmage and the suicide rate might spike in Beau Fleuve?
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Thanks!!! Awesome stuff.
A couple thing that stick out O'Leary sounds like he can block.
B. Brown sounds like he is making himself tough to cut. Let's see if they give him some "Oklahoma Drill" work to see if he is learning to hold on.
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Love, love, love Woods. Tough, crazy hand catch ability, fearless and not a prima donna. When he started last year in Morons dog house I knew Moron was a moron and trouble was brewing.
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Steve smith is a HOF WR. I guess that makes him one of the best WR's of all time. Or the very best #2 WR of all time - right there with Alvin Harper, I guess.
Can Newton is overrated. But so is Rivers and E Manning. Flacco and Romo are underrated.
Steve Smith in his prime was a HOF. He was a veteran's veteran in terms of prepping for the season but the Panther's only had M. Mohamed for a few years, otherwise he was a victim of bad QBs and teams.
Cam is better than Flacco, and Eli IMO. Rivers, Manning are getting old. Hate Rapelesburger as a poor excuse for a human being(personal, I get it) and Romo has 2 (?!) playoff wins. He is great in the regular season but doesn't have the it factor that Cam has. Matt Ryan...Meh
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In Cam's first two years Steve Smith had 2,568 yards for an average of 1,284 yards per year. I don't know what meets your criteria for a #1 receiver but I would say that's a #1 on 25 -27 teams in the NFL. Must have looked at 10 lists of top QBs in the league, best one I saw for Cam was #8. Most had him in the 10-14 range. I understand it's your opinion, but I wouldn't put him that high. To me around 9-12 seems about right.
In his first 2 years, Cam had Chudzinski as his OC. The first year they played from behind consistently. Cam, with one month of camp(owners lockout season) came in and threw for 400+ in his first two games and 4000+ to break Manning's rookie record. He sucked out loud in the preseason and it was shocking what he came out and did. Then the Panthers got Mike Shula as an OC and ran a much more conservative offense while the Onus was put on the D.
In terms of Smith, stats are for loser which the Panthers were 10 times his first year with Cam. I would rate him Stevie Johnson in his prime, at that point. He caught a lot but they were playing catch up and the D sucked. Steve Smithwas not dictating coverage. Shockey and Olson combined for over 1000 that first year also. They were 2 and 3, I would guess. Olson is good, but he's not Hernandez or Graham good.
Finally, you don't set a rookie passing record without being an incredible talent. Cam has been hamstrung by a lack of weapons and an infuriatingly inconsistent OC scheme. Sometimes Shula looks like a genius...other times like N. Hackett.
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I moved to Chlt in 98 and have followed the Panthers as my second team since.
Newton gets a bum rap. He has never had a # 1 receiver. S. Smith was a 2 at best when he was here. Olson is his best receiver at TE. His line has been suspect similar to the Bills. He isn't perfect but the only QBs I'd take over him are Rogers, Brady, Luck.
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This league chews up and spits out players before they have had a chance because fans clamor for "wanting it all right now."
Two QBs that come to mind are Steve McNair and Kordell Stewart.
McNair sucked out loud but was given the time to slowly work himself up to a respectable passer. Kordell never did but was given the opportunity.
EJ has shown some good and bad. Watch Kelly in 86 and 87. Watch Bree's in his first two years. How about Rapelesburger as a rookie on a good team.Some SERIOUS suck out loud moments they fought through on the way to becoming good QBs. Not saying EJ does but would love to see him get the chance this year.
Good post. It's the little things that are holding EJ back. Rodgers completely changed his throwing mechanics from college. He had a full three years to develop them with no pressure.
Rodgers, IMO, would have been a much different player if he had to play as a rookie. Watch his Cal film. He wasn't ready. To act like Qbs should be all pros as young players is kinda insane. It's a process.
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This!!!
Roman's comment on the QB competition in which he said, "Once we get through OTAs Ill probably have an opinion" tells me that he will pencil in (in his mind at least) the starter after this week. He said that he'll keep it to himself which is good. However, you have to wonder if he might break his silence somewhat (obvious hints) if Manuel or Taylor play way above the competition.
What's great is that there is no more just talking about which QB is best or getting cut or who the coaches really favor, we get to hear about actual stuff that happens on the field now. That will be extremely refreshing.
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John, I've said this before, EJ's best moments came during two minute drills. When there is no time to think. The rest of the time he was over thinking which led to indecision. Thus checking down or not pulling the trigger.
I'm NOT comparing him to #12 but Kelly came into his own when he had to hurry it up and react. EJ's 2 minute drill against the Panthers was a thing of beauty. He can clearly "do it" but as so many have said he wasn't built to do it consistently from day one. Very few of these college QBs are.
I'm in the crowd that thinks Moron and Hackett were a large part of the problem. EJ's the antithesis of Geno Smith who has been a pick throwing machine. Our former staff where too much in his ear telling him to err on the side of caution and then yanking him while he was no where near figuring his game out. If Roman's Offense is what it is billed as being, EJ may well flourish. I'd REALLY hate to spend another season watching the "new Orton" MC puke all over the field leaving us in exactly the same situation next year. Ryan has some wiggle room this year. Give EJ his chance and let's see what we have.
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Fred is an ALL TIMER as a Bill but the time has come. Whaley has to put on his "Big boy" pants, make the move and take the flak. This board will explode, the crying and whining will be tremendous.......and life will go on. This move is as much about Whaley demonstrating his GM acumen as it is about Fred. and I LOVE Fred!!!!!
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Thanks:) too lazy to look it up.I think you're referring to the Dome Patrol LB group: Rickey Jackson, Vaughan Johnson, Sam Mills and Pat Swilling
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Back during the SB years , we played against The Saints . I believe this was the same year Kelly and Young had the no punt game. Anyhow, The Bills ended up winning a brutal slugfest. The score was like 10-12 or something. The Saints had that 3-4 D with Mill, Swilling , Kirkland(?) and someone else and they were tough. This is back when we used to get killed every year by Pittsburg or KC in a game where we would just get out physicaled. This looked like it would be the same kind of game and the Saints were favored.
After the game Kelly got up on the podium, he'd been beaten to hell, and looked it. He said something like, Before I answer questions let me ask one, " Who in here thought we were going to win this game?" A few reporters raised their hands and he exploded at them, " YOU'RE A LIAR, YOU'RE A LIAR AND YOU'RE A LIAR!!!! No one other than us thought we could win this game!!!!!!
To this day, I get chills when I remember that presser.
That moment epitomized who and what those SB teams where all about. I would kill to find a copy of that post game press conference.
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This is my second fav. The first game I ever went to. I was 9 and went with my Dad to shut him up cause he kept bugging me to go to s game with him.For me, it was opening day, 1980...Bills break the Dolphins streak, and the whole stadium went ape-**** crazy! It was my first game as a season ticket holder...I had loved the Bills before that, but it cemented things for me the rest of the way!
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I know this has been discussed elsewhere but Ryan+ Ran+ Shady+ Incognito doesn't necessarily mean a dominant running attack. Where did we rank last year? Can Roman use Shady correctly or is it square peg, round hole? If not, who's the featured power back, Freddy? Bryce, Boobie?I can't imagine the o line doesn't perform better but that doesn't mean they will become world beaters, especially when they are trying to learn brand new blocking schemes.Kyle Williams said there is nothing really to learn. He can't understand all the talk about having to learn new schemes. They are hardly starting from scratch on defense, especially when most of the players are the same. Maybe a bit more of a learning curve for the offense, but it's not rocket science.
Did Kyle Williams play in the Raiders game last year? How did the D look in that game with ALL the chips on the table. Nothing is a given when a team is trying to reinvent itself.
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As I read all these posts about which QB should start, and playoffs here we come , I think we need to remember we are starting from scratch on offense and defense.
Both squads will be learning new terminology and play designs as well as new overall philosophies.
Last year it took close to half the season for the safeties and DBs to get it together. Our defensive backfield was sketchy during parts of the the first half of the season.
On offense, it sounds like they will be doing a lot more pre snap as Roman is a real OC. My guess is he won't be able to install everything this year.
If we start off the year with an easy first half schedule, I give us a better chance at the post season but if we have 4-5 tough games on the first eight, we could be one of those teams that others are happy they won't be facing in the playoffs.
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This! He is immediately on his way to being a Bill like Freddy,Talley etc. IMO. Moxie, skill, desire, work ethic and leadership skills.
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I honestly believe Woods is currently a better receiver than Watkins. I'm not at all happy with the Percy Harvin signing as it will take Woods off the field. In a ball control offense, Woods is the kind of tough nose guy you want out there. Am I the only one who thinks Sammy gos down too easily after first contact? I would have hated losing Woods for McCoy. When I heard about Kiko I didn't even blink. We smoked the Eagles on this deal. SMOKED 'em!!!
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Let's face it the Giants are suffering at numerous positions, and probably would trade Nassib for the right player, since the co-owner of the Giants has expressed the desire for Eli to retire a Giant. As a result a lot of trade rumor discussions have been brought up regarding trading Nassib. Do you guys think it would be a good fit for the Bills to trade for him? Apparently he can read defenses well and he's been sitting behind a seasoned pro for a couple years now. Would it be worth it to bring him into compete? I'll be honest to say I know nothing about him other than he played well in the preseason without interceptions.
Apparently, Marijuana is the new coffee.........Good God man..........
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EJ has shown the ability to protect the ball. mayube he needs to learn to force it a little more. Please don't bring up the Watt interception.....S#!) happens. We need a QB who cvan run a ball control offense and hit some play action when it is there. EJ is better than Cassel hands down. My guess is Cassel is here AS a back up. I really wish we had brought in Matt Moore but C'est la vie.
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While I still would like to see a formidable run game with EJ handing off, I would take Foles, Then Moore, then Mallett. Bradford is soft. Sanchez is an Older EJ. Cleveland(!?) cut Hoyer and the little I watched of him was enough. It is pointless to draft anyone, they aren't worth the pick we would use.
I think we need to own up to the fact that a stud running back and O-linemen would be our best acquisitions this year. And ground and pound is going to be our best chance unless EJ/Free agent pick up turns a corner.
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Absolutely, Watched him with the Panthers and wanted him then. He's a guy who could really surprise in the right offense=Roman's offense. I still am not finished with EJ so it would be s good competition. SOOOOOO happy we didn't get McClown!!!!!!
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E.J. .....Behind a rebuilt and properly coached O-line, in a scheme not run by a preschooler at OC. Give him a good running game and let him grow. If Rex could get the NYETs to the AFC championship with Sanchise/ Roman get the 49ers to the playoffs with Kaepernick they can get us to the playoffs with this defense and the skill position players on both sides that we have. I think we all agree the talent is there.
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at the old McMahon's restaurant, cooking w/y buddy Jay who was the chef at the time. We made it back to our apt. in time to listen to OT as it wasn't on TV.
Mea Culpa 2015...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I believed Fervently in Rob Johnson.....and JP Losman. I'm sorry:(