Buffalo Boy

Because hits aren’t cumulative?

Designed Runs are not Scrambles He is almost always in control of the hits he takes on scrambles.

The closest we’ve seen previously to Josh is Cam Newton. They aren’t the same but size, speed, arm strength, moxie coming out of college put them in their own group. Cam was drafted in 2011. He played under Rob Chudzinski for his first to years….then Mike Shula came to town. With him a ridiculous amount of Cam carrying the ball came also. Cam had his first shoulder injury in 2016 ( partial right rotator cuff tear) the year after the SB. In 2018, he started very well and his shoulder received it’s Coup de Grace againt the Steelers around the halfway point. Cam’s career as an elite weapon ended then. 7 1/2 seasons. Those of you out there claiming Josh is “big” and “ it’s his style of play” are sticking your heads in the sand. We all know that Josh is capable of doing what he puts his mind to…..like becoming a passer who rarely runs. THIS could extend his useful career into his late 30’s at a minimum. Beane addressed the need for a competent rushing attack in his EOY presser. Couple that with the additions of new OC, QB and O line coach and hopefully we are legit heading down that path. If we keep running Josh like we have been, all season long, he will be a shell of himself in 3 to 5 seasons and probably washed up in his early thirties.

GUYS….STOP….I’m trying to drink coffee here….

I agree. I think it was just stupidity. However, that’s the problem when you allow doubt to creep in

“It immediately causes a bad look due to the appearance of conflicting interests” It Looks Bad When it looks bad people start to lose faith When people start to lose faith and a coach does something egregiously stupid……..13 seconds……. Some people will start to believe it was on purpose. The NFL should not be in bed with gambling!!!!

🛎 🛎 🛎 We have a winner folks!!!! Not that I think that is what happened. But, when you are in bed with gambling it give more credence to those that do think that way.

Josh is going to cause so many reaches and overdrafts in the next decade 😂

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/.amp/football/philadelphia-eagles-doug-pederson-nate-sudfeld-explanation

You mean the fifty plus page mess that has six or seven sub threads within it?

Vegas lines are created with the understanding that both teams are trying to win. Paying your coach to throw a game for any reason is a fix in terms of the above statement. Any wagers made under circumstances other than the above are not fair wagers. It matters.

It still blows my mind how all of you guys put words in each other’s mouths. I said nothing about a grand conspiracy. I said that when you have accusations of an owner making bribes to his coach to throw games AND he and the league have multiple hands in gambling venture pockets it looks bad. Bad looks opens the door to doubts.

Phily (?) put there third string QB to lose their final game last year.

But single people with the ability to fix an outcome might

A couple decades ago they had baseball players in front of congress for taking steroids?!?! But, an owner propositioning his coach to throw game…… “ Move along folks, nothing to see here.” For a league that enjoys semi tax exempt status? Guess I must really be a kook to believe this is kinda big news 😎

An owner with financial gambling interests offering his coach money to throw games allegations thread

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been started. We all have heard the allegations that Miami’s owner Ross was offering Flores $100k a loss to tank. The NFL should not be in bed with Casinos or online betting sites such as Fan duel. It immediately causes a bad look due to the appearance of conflicting interests. I didn’t research the numbers but it must be in the hundreds of millions in advertising revenue. Then there is the fact that a group of 32 billionaires refuse to employ professional referees. If you own 1 billion you are filthy rich. And yet, the league has refused to hire these guys on full time. It isn’t a money issue. That makes zero sense. If Ross was willing to proposition his coach to lose ( I get that the proof isn’t there but tell me it doesn’t sound plausible) why wouldn’t he or other powers that be not be willing to slip a few shekels to a dirty ref or three? I’m not say it happened. But, there is a saying a teacher of mine had: “ It doesn’t just have to be right, it has to look right.” There have been multiple threads on here over the years talking about the fix being in. Many on here poopoo it because it seems insane. Which brings me to my final point: What would it look like if you were going to throw a game from a coaching perspective? Run a bunch of low percentage plays and punt while shackling your best player(s)? Make absolutely befuddling and egregious decisions that are completely indefensible? I haven’t personally believed that the fix was in in a conspiracy level way in the past. I’m not saying I do now. But, for the first time the dots are starting to connect themselves and picture coming together isn’t a pretty or even palatable one. Flame away Ladies and Gentlemen

I think they will add at least one more in the first three rounds.

O line coaches like the chance to win SBs also. We are a destination.

Never underestimate the Raiders

I felt the same way but there a a few multi page threads that say some on here disagreed.

This should have been no brainer for Dorsey. Interested to see who the line coach is. I was listening to Steve Smith yesterday that Shoen and Daboll are in for a lot of work. He came across as lukewarm on the Daboll hire. Some of you will immediately crap on that but SS isn’t a rube football-wise.

The good old ad hominem insult. When arguing football just isn’t cutting it😘

I already think the same thing. Started feeling that way after the first Patriots game when Diggs and Knox couldn’t catch a cold I was referring specifically to Diggs being taken out of the game by KC’s D ….which I don’t believe is particularly good.

Scoreboards a betatch. Bet Frazier wished he had been playing with the lead. And, back to my original question. How come all the other OCs this weekend were able to repeatedly get the ball into their Elite talents hands. The opposing DCs didn’t realize who they should take away. Apparently, it’s that easy .