BarleyNY
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There are so many. NE was special, the no punt game was amazing. I submit Bills vs Oilers but not the one most of you might think. Rather September 24th, 1989. Bills win 47-41 in OT at Houston:
Another game was in the Bledsoe era where we tied the Vikings with a bounce in off the cross bar 54 yard FG and won in OT on a Peerless Price 45+ yard TD
Can't see how I could vote for anything other than the comeback against Houston. That was amazing.
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Just for the record, I'm not comparing Kelly to Manuel in any way shape or form. Merely pointed out that Kelly benefited greatly from working with Mouse Davis and learning to read defenses before he came to the NFL.
ALL quarterbacks need time to develop. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. From Unitas to Manuel to Johnny Football. I think that's all anyone is trying to say. No need to make this into comparisons on any other level.
GO BILLS!!!
That's a very misleading statement because it ignores the fact that EVERY LAST QB coming out of college has a different set of skills to develop and different degrees to which each of those skills must be developed. Wouldn't we all be breathing easier if, in college, EJ had done a great job running a complicated offense that required a lot of reads and anticipation throws? I know I would.
If a comparison is to be made it should be with players that were much more similar from a skill/deficiency standpoint. Pulling out the Bills best QB ever who bore almost no resemblance whatsoever to EJ just damages your credibility.
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Wow. That's is some great evaluation. Like you said, spot on. Let's hope it changes this season.
Yup. A sadly accurate appraisal.
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Any intelligent business person would of course explore all options when making a billion dollar investment. Is this due diligence or a true future intention?
Can't wait until this is over.
Agreed. And I'll say it again: Buffalo needs to put its best deal on the table now because owners will be exploring these options and, if a good enough one is presented, might just take one. Baltimore didn't let a bidding war happen when they got the Browns to move. They gave Modell a great deal and told him they would pull it if they were used as leverage. I'd rather that not happen here.
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If not EJ, then I think were would have been looking at either Ebron or Beckham at 9, then would have been trading up for either Manziel or Bridgewater. Last year would have been tough unless a trade would have netted someone to hold the QB fort down. I agreed with taking Manuel, but it was more a case of him having potential and not being Geno Smith than loving him as a prospect. I hope he blossoms, but if he doesn't then we move on.
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We should push to enshrine HOPE...
lmao
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Sammy Watkins alone will feel like having 3 first round picks on the team.
Agreed! Sammy is arguably the best playmaker in the draft! That is worth 3 first rounders!
Thank god the Browns didn't think so.
I like Watkins a lot and I think he's going to be a very good NFL WR, but can we all maybe hold off on the Canton bust and gold jacket measurements until he plays a down in the NFL?
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F no. The instant it is apparent the Bills will be moving it is over. One caveat: Browns fans packed their stadium after the announcement that the Browns were moving for one reason only - to show the league they deserved another team. I'd encourage everyone to go for that reason alone. Even if it is just to rally outside the stadium on game days.
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Nope. If anything there's not enough qb talent already
There are 32 teams and only 5 elite QB's. Another 10 are good. The rest are barely adequate or too soon to tell. If anything the answer is bigger rosters. They should add 3-5 roster spots. This would allow teams to truly develop a couple of players. Prevent situations like the Bills going into the season with just Tuel time as the back-up QB.
Agree totally on the QBs. I'm not sure how much another few roster spots would help the QB pool, but it sure wouldn't hurt.
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Seems kind of collegiate. I wonder if dogs need to make minimum wage. Let's replace the Jills with a few.
Yes. Very SEC.
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Actually a bullmastiff, not a bulldog. It was misreported by Fedor and he has since corrected it.
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Warren lost me with his plantation comment a few years back. He's a clown. I try to pay as little attention to him as is humanly possible.
He really tried to play the 'racist' crap because he got called out for being a cheap POS? What a scumbag.
I think his pattern of behavior shows that he actually believes what he says regarding race and that the "boys" comment from the waitress was racist. Let that sink in for a minute. No, seriously, take that minute or two. Whatever it takes to mentally get there. Not that we have a society where racism doesn't exist - we don't. Not by a longshot. But it is also the same society that netted Warren Sapp millions of dollars as a football player, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as an ex-football player and untold admiration from football fans - including far more tail than he'd have ever dreamed of otherwise.
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I'm not sure a man can sink any lower than hanging out with Justin Bieber. He's hit rock bottom, folks. Intervention, counseling and therapy await.
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Brian Hoyer @bhoyer6 8h
@Kiko__Alonso keep your head up man and be ready to work hard. It's not the end of the world and you will come back stronger!
Classy tweet from Brian Hoyer.
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I know a lot of this is said in jest but somewhat true also. One thing Kiko brought to the table that will be missed is that the guy made big plays in crucial moments, that will be missed.
Side note: I've now owned 2 Bills LB jerseys - Kiko and Sam Cowart. I think I'll abstain from buying anymore jerseys from current Bills players. I'll wait until they retire from now on.
No Jim Kelly jersey for you, okay? He just got better.
I'll be interested to see what kind of personality and attitude the defense has this season without Kiko. He seemed to not only have high energy and bad intentions personally, but those traits seemed to bleed I to the rest of the defense as well. I wonder how much was him.
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When asked by Ohio.com if he will have a chip on his shoulder against the Browns because Cleveland traded back instead of taking him, he replied that he has a chip on his shoulder for every game. He mentioned one of the Browns DBs, Seattle's Sherman, and another DB (I don't recall whom) and said he knows he'll be playing against great players in the NFL but he has always gone out and dominated and that's what he plans to do in the NFL.
There really wasn't anything inflammatory about his remarks.
Where? I'm not saying he didn't, I just have not seen that anywhere.
Sammy didn't say that in the article. Did he say that on Twitter or something?
I got it from here:
I'm retracting my comments about this being on Watkins. This is on Whitner. The article makes it seem like Watkins said specifically that he was looking forward to playing Cleveland, but there is no quote and I can't find a quote that singles out the Browns - or any other team for that matter. Sorry, I took the article at face value. I was wrong on this one.
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When asked by Ohio.com if he will have a chip on his shoulder against the Browns because Cleveland traded back instead of taking him, he replied that he has a chip on his shoulder for every game. He mentioned one of the Browns DBs, Seattle's Sherman, and another DB (I don't recall whom) and said he knows he'll be playing against great players in the NFL but he has always gone out and dominated and that's what he plans to do in the NFL.
There really wasn't anything inflammatory about his remarks.
Watkins said "I can't wait to play Cleveland." If Whitner had said "I can't wait to play Buffalo." I can't imagine any reaction from Bills fans except anger and telling him to keep his mouth shut.
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Wow. Sammie should keep his mouth shut. Players - especially rookies - shouldn't start things like this. If Whitner had started things by saying he couldn't wait to play Buffalo and Sammie (or, better yet, a vet like Mario or CJ) had responded like Whitner had, then I'd agree. But it didn't happen that way. Sammie was wrong. Still, there are 4 pages of posters ripping on the ex-Bill and sticking up for the current Bill. It probably didn't help that it was Whitner. He's hated here as much as Tom Brady.
Sammie thought Cleveland was going to pick him at 4 and they traded the right to do so away so I think he carrying a grudge. He should deal with that on the field, not in the press.
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> Goodell works for the owners. His job is to support the agenda of the majority of the owners . . .
This is true. However, his job is complicated by the fact that the owners have become divided into two philosophical groups. For want of better terms, I'll call these the "traditional group"--think the late Wellington Mara--and the "money-grubbing group"--think Jerry Jones. Over the last decade, the money-grubbing group has gained ground. Ticket prices have gone up considerably. There is more--and more annoying--television advertising than there'd been ten years ago. The NFL has become more active in other attempts to part fans from their cash. Stadiums have often lost their traditional names; replaced by the names of corporate sponsors. Instead of football games during usual NFL times only, there are now a lot more games on Thursday nights or other non-standard times.
The fans expect two things from the NFL. 1) A reasonable quantity of entertainment for the amount of time or money invested. 2) They expect the NFL to respect its own traditions. If the NFL doesn't respect its own traditions, why should the fans?
If the NFL doesn't provide the fan with these two things, there will be a backlash. Former NFL fans will find non-football-related ways of entertaining themselves. The money grubbing group wants to squeeze the goose that lays the golden eggs. Sure, they might extract a little more gold in the short-term. But what does that do to the long-term health of the goose?
Goodell is not necessarily in an enviable position here. He's best off if he maintains the trust of both groups of owners. On the other hand, the long-term future of the NFL could be seriously altered if the money grubbing group continues to get too much of what they want. There needs to be a balance between the wishes of the money-grubbing group, the wishes of the traditional group, and the interests of the fans.
Goodell is not in a position to stand up to the money grubbing owners. That job is the responsibility of the rest of the owners; not of Goodell. But what Goodell can do is look for compromise solutions--solutions which get the money-grubbing owners the money they want; while showing more respect for NFL fans and NFL traditions than the money grubbing owners would, if left to their own devices. The most we as fans can hope for from Goodell--or from any NFL commissioner for that matter--is to search for these compromise solutions, and to try to persuade the owners to accept them.
I agree with what you wrote. My only additional point is that the money-focused owners are the way forward. Virtually every new owner will be cut from that cloth because this is a billionaire's game now. Eventually all of the old school owners will phase out.
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The comments below that article are brilliant. Makes this place look like a Mensa convention.
lmao. Yup.
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It would sure be nice to see EJ hit that FQB level. I think you'd see a lot of people downplaying some of the things they said about him and some others would bring up some of the things said about him. But ultimately the salve off wins and expectations of playoffs would make this place a love fest overall.
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Very good question and article in the Sun. Thanks
Agreed. Everyone should read that.
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I hate that question: "Can we trust Goodell?" What does that even mean? I'm sure he would like the Bills to stay in WNY, but so what? That ultimately means very little against possible economic realities, improving the league and the wishes of new ownership. Any or all of those may come into play.
Goodell works for the owners. His job is to support the agenda of the majority of the owners and keep those owners that stray in line. He's got other duties, but it mostly boils down to that. That's what we can trust him to do - support the agenda of the majority of owners.
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Also keep in mind that the sale is also subject to review and approval by the NFL. While there may be some tolerance for a small discount that keeps the Bills in Buffalo I do not think the NFL allows for anything that has a "wow" assigned to it. The value of all teams rises if the Bills fetch a significant premium.
Well stated.
LaCanfora: bills may be willing to deal Spiller before season
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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So the Bills are going to part ways with their starting, nearly 27 year old RB and move forward with their 33 year old RB? Honestly, Fred Jackson is great and I love having him on the team, but when does he go over that cliff that most RBs fall off by 30? Who wants to see him thrust into the starting role at this stage of his career? I sure don't. The Bills would be foolish to move Spiller unless some team goes Full Retard like Indy did for Richardson. I don't see that happening.