Mister Defense

In keeping with the logic of the OP, why not hire Daboll as the head coach, and then re-hire Dorsey as the offensive coordinator? A reunion of sorts! Sure, then we would have the two coaches who currently have the 29th and 31st worst offenses in the NFL right now as our team leaders. But anything is better than McDermott and Brady, obviously. Dorsey never got a fair shake here and was clearly far superior to Brady. He has since shown just what he is capable of doing as an OC in Cleveland. He is moving quickly toward his potential, showcasing his offensive mind and work ethic for all to see. Just as was so clear with the Bills, notice how much the Cleveland offense improves from week to week, and so how much better they are now than just 7 weeks ago. And both coaches will likely be available very soon, or at the latest, after the season ends. And with no one there to bully poor Dabol into running the ball, and ditto for Dorsey, the term and use of complimentary football will be stricken from all Bills media, messaging, and offenses forever more. Win, win, win.

Hmmm, let’s see how the facts break down to understand why this is one of the most ludicrous OPs I have ever seen on this board…. A few hours after the Bills beat the Titans, 34-10…. With the Bills earning 389 yards of offense… With Keon Coleman having his breakout game, with 125 receiving yards… And Coleman now with the 3rd most receiving yards in the 2024 rookie class, with 326, more than Marvin Harrison Jr, Rome Odunze, Ladd McConkey, Xavier Worthy… As their brand new weapon, Amari Cooper, is looking like he has been with the team for a month, not just a few days, earning 66 yards and a TD, and clearly adding a missing dimension to the offense, as he opens up things across the field for other receivers… And right after the Bills just totally dominated on offense after a slow start, scoring 34 points against the best defense in the NFL… With Brady now going 11-3 since he became our OC, in the middle of last season, when he immediately turned around a moribund offense, turning the offense and team into a legitimate championship contender over night… While at the same time… Brian Daboll’s Giants, showed, yet again, why they are clearly one of the worst offenses in the NFL, scoring 3 points against the Eagles, earning a total of 119 yards… And with the Bills averaging over 28 points a game this season, 5th in the league, and the Giants averaging half that amount, at 14 points per game, 31st in the league… With all these clear facts, many extremely fresh in his head, somehow a Bills’ ‘fan’ is likely thinking, “Wow, maybe it is time (again) to get rid of Brady, and bring Daboll back, as clearly this Brady experiment is not working. And Daboll is showing just how good he is, what we could have now”, just a few hours after the Bills’ offense has its way with one of the best defenses in the NFL. I have been on this board for about 30 years, and so have seen thousands of topics posted and questions asked. But I have rarely seen a post or question as nonsensical, bizarre, and void of reason as this one. It is as if all facts and reality have deserted the OP.

1st and 2nd or 1st and a 3rd. Do they need a tight end? We have a starting caliber one we hardly ever use for some reason.. Worth it, though I would rather have Crosby probably. The one thing the Bills have not had under McDermott is a dominant defensive lineman, pass rusher, a la Bruce Smith. Imagine what that does for this extremely well coached defense? Like someone said on this forum recently, the main difference between the Bills and the Chiefs has been Chris Jones. So, if that is the case, and it very well could be, how much is too much? Josh should not break the team's bank this year or next, but settle for less. He wants a Super Bowl, or 8, and he could get by on 40-50 million a year. If not, he knows the fans will start Go Fund me pages and such if he ever needs money for milk, bread, eggs, TP--we won't let him starve or have an itchy kiester.

I think it really started going downhill once they hired Kyle Brandt and Peter Schrager. Brandt just yells and yells and thinks hype replaces knowledge, good details and good, original analysis. While Schrager is a fan boy, surprisingly never moving on from his name dropping, over and over, star struck personality, still almost shocked that he gets to meet and be around high profile NFL players and personalities. And he lets us know it directly every time. You have to figure both men are not respected by the real announcers and football people. They tend to show this when the two men are included in their shows. Too annoying and not any real substance there, and the only professional seems to be Jamie Erdahl. I just tape and watch NFL Live in the morning when I want some am football.

Whatever you think of Watson, that is a powerful statement by his teammate, and we are hearing some similar statements by his teammates. At least as a teammate, he seems to have garnered a lot of respect, as we know these kinds of comments are not too common.

So, if the season were to end today, you would fire Brady?

Maybe look at the facts, and don't let your emotion get in the way of those. I am guessing from previous posts though, someone who does not do that much in football or .... We see how many morons in the country are accepting outlandish 'theories' for facts, and the danger of that--you don't want to go there, or, stay there?

Poor Cleveland, as they have likely lost all hope now that Watson is likely out for the season. A devastating loss, when everything was coming together so nicely for them on offense. And when dorsey was clearly hitting his stride, showing exactly what he could do a coordinator. Should we get some kind of fund established for the fans, Watson? Dorsey?

yeah, that does not diminish the ridiculous content of the OP, just more of the same nonsense--why would this be at the forefront, or wayback, of anyone's mind after today's game? And after the Bills have gone 11-3 since Brady took over an offense that looked dead in the water--and turned it around immediately? Bizarre. Nonsensical. Assuming if I go back and read some previous posts of the OP I would find out why he wanted to post such nonsense tonight. And why after the Bills move to 5-2, with all aspects of the team coming together, playing great complimentary football (and I am betting the OP hates that term too..?).

Umm, does anyone else think the OP is monumentally bad timing? Posted right after the Bills scored 34 points, with their offense clearly rounding into shape, and the addition of Cooper already paying big dividends? And I would say this is not something real, not an option, as Daboll and McDermott do not seem to like each other.

Bills 35, Titans 17 At home, the defense goes nuts, sacking and pillaging and such, with turnovers fueling the offense, keeping it going. Finally the running backs start to all eat too, in an offense when for some reason that has not really been the case. It should not just be Cook. And Brady starts to realize what kind of running and catching weapons he has there. As the game progresses, Cooper starts to show what he will bring to the Bills--an intermediary threat to compliment Shakir's 1-12 yard threat--the missing element to this offense. Samuel and Knox finally light it up. Okay, it's what I want to see, but some of it will likely happen on the way to the big win!

Thanks, did not know the details of the station ownership. More importantly: "Jerry does two shows a week on that station" and "Stephen does one" Yikes--shows one reason why the team is soo dysfunctional, and why the players seem so unhappy, with every man for himself, with that blowhard, and GM and OWNER, making his often extremely team undermining views known for all to hear, at an incredibly high rate.

Moronic because they asked Jones relevant questions? Hence, he deserved what jones said? Threatening to fire and mocking a radio host is "not that bad"? If you think that is "not that bad" if jones threatened his life maybe that would do it for you? I have actually never heard anything "that bad" from an owner speaking directly to a host in all my life.

He has not brought in good talent to field a good, contending team. Not since Jimmy Johnson left. He chooses players like a high school kid who doesn't know much about football, the nuts and bolts, so chooses and then overpays for flashy, incomplete players that get some attention--Prescott, Parsons, our buddy diggs... So then Jerry gets a little more of what he truly wants--a spotlight on him. Like that awful monstrosity he built for his 'team' to play in, he is always just going for the shiny object as he thinks it reflects well on him. But, instead, he has become a joke, a punchline, with an extremely flawed team that he is responsible for creating. Now he is lashing out, unhinged, because he is in a hole he cannot dig out of. His only hope is to find a high quality GM, and turn the reigns over to him. But he won't do that.

Thanks for the details. I have no idea what the content of the complaint was but seems over the line by the Bills if true. But, of course, very different from what Jones did, the public humiliation on the air and explicit threat of firing.

What are you referring to? I don't know. Can you clarify?

I would definitely change the wording in your topic, the "gets snippy". Sounds like he said something snarky to a waiter because he didn't like the way his steak was cooked. (And I am sure jones abuses waiters too, when those lowly peasants do not please him.) Instead, jones lambasted the host of a radio show interviewing him because he dared to ask the emperor himself if the team's problems were related to the fact that almost no players were added to address the team weaknesses after last season, referencing the criticism of him in the off season. jones threatened to fire him for asking him the question, saying he could get someone else to sit there with a microphone and ask him more appropriate questions, etcetera. When the host laughed once at king jerry's words, threat, jones interrupted him and said he was "not kidding". He bragged that he would be meeting with the other 32 NFL owners this week and that maybe this hack (my word), the know it all, thinks he could do such an important thing. He said he was not going to sit there and be asked what he has done wrong when clearly he has done so much more right over the years. He wasn't going to "look back at decisions" When the host said that the criticism was that jones did not, and would not, spend to add players in the off-season, lord jerry said, "I remember those criticisms well--so what? What's your point?... This is not your job, to go over all the reasons I did something. ...That is not your job, or I'll get someone else to ask these questions", causing the host to laugh uncomfortably as one would tend to do when their job is threatened on the air because you are asking the team owner and GM a reasonable question about the team. Context: jerry almost always praises the great talent on the team after losses, clearly indicating he, and his chosen talent, are not the reason for the losses. But Dallas has given up 167 points in their last 4 home games. In that stretch, their best home game defensively was a few weeks ago when they gave up only 28 points to the Ravens, rather than the 44, 47 and 48 given up in the other four home losses. Tyrannical, unhinged etcetera are much more accurate descriptors than 'snippy', to describe how this warped man laid into the host of the radio show, threatening his livelihood, and mocking him, because he had the audacity to question the emperor on the imploding mess of a team that he has created. Shameful, and the league should definitely discipline jones, let the other owners know that they do not get to abuse their significant power just because they have it. A personal side note to Mr. diggs: you gotta get out of there, don't you think?, though you are exactly the kind of player that embodies jerry's team to a tee.

Come on!! Because Allen leapt over Bubba that somehow diminishes him in your eyes? I hope not.

Okay, but for Edwards we cannot compare his past ratings with his rating for the Bills, as he has not played at all. If the Bills thought he could really improve, be a starter--they have been around 2 excellent starters the last 5+ years, know something about it--Edwards would be starting. The Bills have been able to get what have appeared to be middle of the road players, at best, and turned them into starting quality, high caliber defensive backs time and time again under McDermott. So, for now, they seem to have no confidence that Edwards can be one of those guys. I was not impressed with the signing, thought he should not be a starter this year, despite the praise heaped on him from some media, especially Brown and Tasker on One Bills Live.

I agree with your take. When I see plays like that it seems so out of place, like they're playing scared; way too conservative, playing not to lose. But I always get the feeling as I see it happening, that the result will be the opposite. You lose when you play scared, and don't trust your players to do what they normally do.

Well, good point, and Miller definitely seemed to be on that trajectory in his first games of the season, overall. But I do think Cooper 'moves the dial' in the playoffs too, whether or not Miller continues to progress. Although that does not mean I think he makes them a true contender if the safety issue is not fixed.

Not a bad idea, but poor Bass! Imagine being in this position, clearly wanting, and likely doing everything possible to get better. But things are still spiraling, to some degree, and then the added pressure of people calling for your head. It'd be really hard to overcome. I guess it is part of the deal for an NFL kicker.

Be careful what you wish for. We have seen a slew of really bad kickers over the years. That is not Bass. Just replacing him with a warm body is a bad idea for a team that may contend for a championship this year.

Wow, did not even think it was pronounced like that. Thanks. Buddha Boy was my nickname for my brother when we were kids. Not sure what you mean--Pff gave low ratings to Poyer, is that what you are saying?

? Because it is pretty clear that he is a work in progress and if Bishop is a full time starter, right out of the gate, it will put the Bills at a disadvantage, the Bills should just stand pat and let that be the case? To me, that is very nonsensical. It would be like saying the Bills are not giving Coleman a chance to develop, are giving up on him, because they signed Cooper. In the case of Coleman/Cooper, it would have been negligent to stand pat, to wait and hope beyond hope that he can develop much much more quickly than he is--and than is expected for a rookie wide-out in most cases. So if you believe that, that the Cooper trade means that, I can see why you would also believe that they should just wait, and hope beyond hope, that Bishop can immediately become the high caliber safety most hope and (still) expect him to be in the future. That is how bad teams operate, not a team like the Bills. If they want to win it this year, good teams have the mindset of making sure all vital positions are manned effectively--'right here, right now'. Bishop comes from a much different defense in college and the NFL transition is already difficult as it is. It will likely take him a year or so to become a capable every down starter, though of course we all hope that happens today instead. And I think you would agree: immediately starting is not always the best way to enhance development, and that more methodically developing a player does not mean you are "delaying his development". Right? And that sometimes just throwing a player into the fire immediately sets him back considerably.