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Good point. How many people have now changed their minds on this, just because NK claims to have this stuff.

I noticed in this e-mail that PETA is asking you to protect the animals, instead of them. Ummm...excuse me...isn't that what PETA is supposed to be doing? Why the hell are they asking others to do the work while they just shrug their shoulders saying "Oh well?" Nice organization.

They didn't mention how big she was. If you had a 500 lb woman in a thong shaking her stuff in your face, wouldn't you think that was torture?

Been there - Done that. Glad you enjoyed your trip.

I just heard back from Schroeder. He never taught at MIT. He was on the staff, but never a professor. He earned his BS, MS and PhD at MIT. Here is the bio he sent to me: Gerald Schroeder is a scientist with over thirty years of experience in research and teaching. He earned his Bachelor’s, Master’s, and Doctorate degrees all at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. This was followed by seven years on the staff of the MIT physics department prior to moving to Israel, where he joined the Weizmann Institute of Science and then the Volcani Research Institute, while also having a laboratory at The Hebrew University. His Doctorate is in two fields: Earth sciences and nuclear physics. His formal theological training includes fifteen years of study under the late Rabbi Herman Pollack, Rabbi Chaim Brovender and Rabbi Noah Weinberg. The scientific career that Schroeder chose has given him varied and often unusual experiences. In his work with nuclear disarmament, he has been present at the detonation of six atomic bombs. Work in control of radioactivity has put him hundreds of meters below ground in U.S. and foreign uranium mines. The government of the People’s Republic of China, during the decade before it established direct contacts with Israel, was willing to overlook his Jerusalem address and had him as a frequent advisor. He also consults for agencies of the governments of Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, USA. Invitations for him to lecture have come from around the world. He has over 60 publications in the world’s leading scientific journals on topics ranging from the radon atmosphere of the moon (in Science) to the metabolism of mother’s milk (in Nutrition Reports International). The results of Schroeder’s work have been reported in Time, Newsweek, Scientific American and in newspapers as far apart as Boston and Adelaide. His formal training in chemistry, nuclear physics and the Earth and planetary sciences provides the basis for the broad scientific perspective he brings to his books and lectures. For the past twenty years, Dr. Schroeder has also pursued a study of ancient biblical interpretation. An ability to handle the biblical material in the original languages integrated with his background in the sciences allows him to tap the subtle depths contained in the original texts. These nuances are missed when working with translations. The uniqueness and success of Schroeder’s approach is demonstrated by the success of his first book, GENESIS AND THE BIG BANG (published by Bantam Doubleday and now in seven languages), and the wide acclaim for his second book THE SCIENCE OF GOD (published by The Free Press of Simon & Schuster and Broadway Books of Bantam Doubleday) which was on the Barnes & Noble list of non-fiction best sellers and was Amazon.com’s best selling book in the field of physics/cosmology for all of 1998; now in five languages. His most recent book is THE HIDDEN FACE OF GOD, discovering the unity that binds all existence (published by The Free Press of Simon & Schuster). Gerald Schroeder lives in Jerusalem with his wife (the author, Barbara Sofer) and their five children. He moved to Israel from the USA in 1971. In addition to his current work in radiation control, he teaches at the Aish HaTorah College of Jewish Studies in Jerusalem, and writes and lectures on the extraordinary confluence of modern science and ancient biblical commentary. Schroeder served in the IDF as did his two sons as officers. B.Sc. Chemical engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) M.Sc. Earth and planetary sciences, M.I.T. Ph.D. Earth and planetary sciences and nuclear physics, M.I.T.

Looks like we found a long lost IBP member.

Have you not been paying attention in this thread? There has been a boatload of information directly refuting you...errr...Schroeder's points. Re-read the thread and then address the points. Otherwise, you look like you are purposely avoiding anything that contradicts your POV which makes you look foolish.

Hey, the degree looks good on a book cover. It makes it easier for people to buy into any drivel you publish.

I am glad I could teach you something today.

I emailed Schroeder himself, so we will see what he says.

Why would you publish in a rag like Physics Review when you can publish books. Much more credible.

Did any of you Dexter's ever think that this can be resolved by just e-mailing the guy or MIT? I just sent an e-mail and will let you know what I find out. It took me less time to do that than it did to read the posts arguing about his background.

I think that this is more like Ed lahjik. Dogs do not attack unless provoked because Ed has never been attacked while living in NJ.

Which is why they invented the word NO. If you do not want to donate, don't donate. It seems like a pretty basic concept, even for college students. I do not see how this is different from any other charity drive. I remember my college days, when fraternities and sororities would go through the dorms trying to raise money to help others. I do not remember a CNN crew following them around. I also remember plenty of charities that set up booths to raise money. Again, no cameras from any major news network. So again, how is it irresponsible to set up a booth to donate money to help the less fortunate?

This thread just keeps getting better and better. It reminds me of the telephone pole thread and Godel is playing the role of Ed.

It's two friggin dollars. About the average cost of one beer. You are trying to imply that two friggin dollars is somehow going to bankrupt these students and there is no possible way that they will be able to recover from voluntarily donating these two friggin dollars. For what it is worth I am in school right now, so your last statement does not carry much weight.

It is irresponsible to care about other people. Didn't you know that?

Irresponsible is a little harsh, don't you think? Again, nobody is forcing anyone into doing anything. This is a charitable drive for a scholarship. What's the big deal?

I'm SHOCKED, I tell you. SHOCKED. [/sarcasm]

Exactly. You pick and choose who you donate to or if you donate at all.

So don't donate. Again, where is the major story here?

I fail to see where this is a story. An institution is asking for a charitable contribution. How is this any different from the Red Cross holding a blood drive. You are being asked to give of yourself to help others. If you decide not to give, that is your choice and you face no repercussions. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Again, where is the problem?

That was one of the main problems with the Kerry campaign. They really did not offer any good solutions. His campaign was basically "I'm not Bush. Did you know I was in Vietnam?" His "I have a plan" stuff rang hollow. People have varying opinions on the success of my campaign. Some look at it like "he didn't win and he didn't get close to winning so therefore he was a failure." Others look at it like "people around the country (who didn't know him prior to the campaign) pledged their support and voted for him which makes his campaign a success." Regardless of people's opinions on the success of my campaign, every one of them agreed that I was open and honest about my positions. People knew where I stood on the issues. They may not have agreed with my positions, but at least they knew what they were. You could not say the same for Kerry. His positions were fluid, in an attempt to appeal to as many people as possible.

Some **** would probably toss it out of there, too. How about the "Testing" forum?

We would have just tossed it back.