JoeF

Seems like you aren't being honest with your objective. Is it to make the case for JP? Is it to ask what factor "poise" is? I think I answered the original question by saying 1) The offense we ran last year was more about keeping the weak and injured D off the field than it was about scoring points 2) I am not sure what "poise" is--I think field intelligence (awareness of down, distance, routes, break points, advice to receivers, etc.), quick decision making, quick moves through his progressions are skills Trent has -- my opinion is that he displayed these skills on several occaisons last year. 3) Gunslinger is defined as holding the ball, waiting on a play to develop for a deeper throw. JP does that a lot. He is less worried about the occasional negative play because he believes he can make it up on the next play with his mobility and arm. 4) Every QB I know misses open receivers--there's 5 of them out there on almost every passing play and usually 2 or 3 are somewhat open -- if they aren't you need a new OC. Now "open" in the NFL is a quarter step in some cases -- the throwing windows are tight. Trent showed an ability to fit the ball into those tight windows on short and medium routes with some consistency last year and that fit the scheme Fairchild wanted. We simply don't know a lot about the entire arsenal Trent has because he was wrapped tightly into a system last year that was limiting. I want to see what he can do with the reigns a little less tight. We are going to get to see that this year...he could bomb as easily as succeed. I am not sure what you are aiming for here? Are you really wondering about poise or trying to dismiss it as a factor. Define what you mean by poise and maybe someone can provide useful information.

Trent had serious reigns on him last year as a Rookie--no audibles, tight to a gameplan without a lot of adaptations in game. He had basically two jobs..primary--keep the O on the field as long as possible so the D wouldn't be exposed; secondary--oh yeah--score some points. JP has talent -- he can throw, run but he couldn't and shouldn't operate in such a scheme over the long term..he just has the talent of a gunslinger and gunslingers need Defenses that can pull them out of the fire when needed. Its interesting because now the Bills have a defense that moves closer to being able to support a gunslinger. The Bills have weapons on offense -- Lynch, Jackson (watch how they use him this year), Evans, Parrish, Hardy, Reed to spread the field and go for the jugular. A gunslinger mentality would possibly work. I think if things start out slow for Trent -- meaning the Bills don't score points on sustained drives and mix in a few big plays here and there--the pressure will build to go back to JP. Clearly playoffs is the expectation and fast starts are almost a prerequisite for the playoffs. As a fan--I hope that Trent lights it up. I want the playoffs more than I want this QB or that QB and its clear the Bills are starting with Trent. I think keepthefaith did a good job of outlining the Trent strengths and weaknesses I saw - but I don't think we saw all of what Trent can do last year. I still vividly recall sitting in the endzone at FedEx field and watching him throw an absolute 35 yard bullet to Reed in the cold, mist and wind to set up the winning FG...this kid can play more than what the Bills have allowed him to display.

Still a young pup...but has lots of potential. Happy Birthday to Western Pennsyltucky's ass kicking philosopher...

I am wondering why they used Houston as the model? Maybe they could have used Toronto to make the Bills feel more at home.

Can we close a thread for becoming one person's efforts at mental masturbation? If so -- I would like to nominate this here thread for closure. Free Marshawn. Next time you see him -- buy him a shot...

If you are trying to point out that a 22 year old kid may have had a lapse in judgment, I commend you for your tenacity. The DA obviously did not have enough evidence (circumstantial, collaborated or anything) to pursue the drinking angle. Marshawn probably hit a lot of bars that night with a lot of folks watching him--someone surely would have stepped up if they saw him sloppy or even a little drunk. So my question to you, is given this, who gives a flying !@#$. Expressing the opinion once or twice is tolerable. Then leave people free to agree or disagree with you. Express it 50 times and put yourself up for ridicule because you have crossed the line of sanity. You have now probably expressed this opinion in half your posts. What's the !@#$ing point? You think if you say it 50 times people will call you a God? Doubtful. Anyway..I am sure this will cause another inane diatribe..so have at it soldier.

. Classic. Just classic. Thank you. Peep show at Home Depot...Peep Show at Home Depot....

NFL driving school. I heard Lance Briggs is the instructor this off-season. I think he gets a warning and I also think he gets a chauffeur for night's on the town.

Get well Millbank! Prayers for you.

Golly that would be funny.... I will pay Marshawn's fine if this thread would just go away....

She's fat...that's really funny. When's the season start again?

Was Marshawn driving in Vegas this past weekend?

Thanks Brad. You are sounding good over the www

YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH. b.harami98 is up there on that wall every day. You want him on that wall, you need him on that wall. Welcome back b.harami98, whatever the hell it was probably doesn't matter a lick today. Just don't go Chris Henry or Cedric Benson on us and I predict you will be fine with the best moderating crew on the www...

Meet the Press was awesome this AM. Brokaw, Carville, Matlin, Mike Barnicle, Maria Shriver, Doris Kearns-Goodwin, Gwen Ifel, Betty Fischer (long time Meet the Press Executive Producer). All of Tim's favorites on one stage. It was emotional, funny and hopeful. If you missed it I am sure MSNBC will be running it about a million times. I have probably missed maybe 20 Meet The Press's in the last 17 years. Its how I tried to stay informed. I will never forget that !@#$ David Duke being exposed for what he was--a pure racist who cared only about his own agenda not about the people of Louisiana. Tim did that in the most humane way possible by asking the dickhead about the economy and literacy in the state in which he was running for Governor and Duke had none of the facts at his grasp. Last night on his European tour the Boss dedicated Thunder Road to Tim. This is a huge void -- that he was from Buffalo, hell that he WAS Buffalo on the world stage to many make him all the more admirable. He was a brother in arms to all of us. God Bless Luke and Maureen..God Bless Big Russ....God Bless Sister Lucille and Tim's Sisters...the pain must be unbearable.

I wonder if God is ready for the questions he is going to get on Meet the Press on Sunday. Gosh darn it I am going to miss him--he was the gateway to the white house, the senate, governor's mansions..good Lord this is a tough one.

We lost the person who could articulate best on the global stage the greatness that it meant to be from Buffalo. Man--I am devastated...

Now you are just making sh-- up.... What am I? Teenage girl at Gurtler's house on prom night. This was a Mark Chmura incident waiting to happen.

What the hell were Ralph and Brandon doing partying with Beast Mode, Hardy, Stevie J and Gaddis at 3:30 AM in Downtown Buffalo....and riding in Marshawn's Porsche SUV...the Taurus must have been in the shop. As a side note -- I wonder what the Defensive side of the ball was doing that night? At Whitner's watching film I bet....

What if she was inside the vehicle and was tossed to the pavement? What if there were farm animals involved? What if Marshawn was blinded by the Bass Pro Shop lights?

I think its probably the worst of all worlds. I think Marshawn was shotgun. Marcus Stroud was driving. Marcus barely grazed her but put it in reverse and Marshawn got her with the car door and then they took off..you got a big trifecta there...hit and run, assault and obstruction...Where in the !@#$ is Eliot Ness when you need him.

Electric Chair or death by injection?...Better yet--you have to read every thread on this subject 6 times, first post to last, and report on each threads technical and logical merits.

Awesome. Congrats Dad. What did she say to her classmates in her address?

This is the fourth receiver to sign an extension that loads about $27M in the first three years (TO joins Moss, Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald)...I think Lee will want at a minimum $24-25 in the first three years of an extension. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3423170

At least the photo indicates how much she really cares about Football.