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And so the first domino falls. YES. YESSSS. It is time, time to flush this whole experiment like the festering turd it is

4 turnovers > 12 men

he's been coached not to run, yes, but he hasn't been coached out of not giving a damn about actually reading defenses

He still exhibits the same issues he has his whole career. If he was in year two, I wouldn't be worried. But he is consistently poor at reading defenses, poor at finding his outlet man, poor at decision making pre and post snap. If he was coachable, this wouldn't be a problem. He, in my opinion, thinks far too highly of his physical gifts to the point where he ignores the things that make truly great QBs great.

ELITE

One would have to assume that with Josh, at least, some arrangement for sharing the cap hit with the receiving team would be worked out.

At a minimum, Josh is responsible for two losses this year. The Jets and this game. You could probably argue he's responsible for the Jags loss too. There's not a franchise QB in the league OTHER than him that I think you can say that about. I mean, the man is also leading the league in turnovers, again. It's not all the coordinator. A majority share for that lies with him Which would then allow them to reap the benefit of high picks in the following year. This team NEEDS to get younger and more talented because right now it's old and untalented. I mean, maybe. He doesn't seem like the most coachable guy these days.

Trade him to a top 5 draft position team like Chicago for a draft haul and try with a rookie. Josh is what he is at this point and what he is isn't good enough.

If Josh forces his way out he's doing the team an enormous favor long term

Yeah, that's more conservative than I'd like I agree on firing pretty much everyone, but I'd also move on from Josh. That contract for a guy who's pretty average is just not doable.

You and I are in synch about this team for the first time ever. This team has run it's course. Though I think my prescription for what to do is likely harsher than yours

Allen just isn't that good. Period. Yes, the coaching sucks, yes, the GM sucks. But yes, the QB ALSO ducks.

Right. Everyone must go. This fish has rotted from the head

Whose fault is that?

This thread is stupid at this point

Lol what a clown

They lose that game too. Book it.

Hate to break it to you but this team is heading for a three year at minimum playoff drought, starting this year. The team is cap strapped, old, and functionally untalented all over the field. There's only one solution: a total roster gut and rebuild. I'm sure the usual crowd will eyeroll this, but they know it's true. There's a time to fish and a time to cut bait. The time to cut bait has come. Was fun but this team has run its course, and if it was up to me I'd listen to all offers. Nothing should be held back. Donezo.

Keep saying hi we the reason, but NOOOOOO not josh. He's a bigger, stronger Ryan tannehill

Yeah I was premature in singing that clowns praises Back to being useless

Uh huh.

My my, your tune has changed

Best of luck with that

The eye test is always right. And right now there's not a player on this team that doesn't look like ***** . Tank the season, tear town to the studs, fire the coaches and FO and start over. It's totally rotten beyond fixing.

He's good. Not great. He's a career 2:1 TD to TO guy. Let's be real