FireChan

2 years from now.

Yeah we could, because we did.

Yeah, when has Freddy ever been productive behind a poor offensive line?

Still not as bad as a 3.8 QBR.

2 man league?

I get it's sarcasm. It's the use of "stay classy" in this context that I don't understand.

How is that "staying classy?"

Seriously.. So bad.

What, in your opinion, are the games most demonstrative of EJ's consistency?

Why don't we step this up a bit. You show me the two games best games of EJ and Trod where they demonstrated the "most" consistency and then their two worst? I have a feeling you'll be sent scurrying to week one of 2013. And just so we're clear, 4 INT's in a game doesn't count.

#consistency

Really, you have two years of film on Tyrod? Also, nice sidestep of the rest.

That's intellectually dishonest, and further, you know it. Is it? "I'm talking to a True Believer who thinks every criticism of Tyrod is an endorsement of EJ Manuel" "so I guess I'm taking my chances with EJ. He's not the athlete or individual playmaker that Tyrod is, but he's much stronger in the pocket, and I believe would give us a more consistent base to work from providing us with a better chance to win now." What is this, other than a clear endorsement that EJ Manuel gives us a better chance to win than Tyrod? Endorsing "anyone but Taylor" is all well and good, but the fact of the matter is that that's not possible. The only possibility is EJ over TT. Which you believe. I know, I know, that really damages your claims and I apologize in advance. Because while an argument for "anyone but Taylor" allows you to only critique Taylor, an endorsement of his replacement opens your position up to get demolished by 2 years of film of EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeJ. Who sucks and sucks bad.

So you call me a "True Believer" because I believe you are endorsing EJ over TT and then you go ahead and endorse EJ over TT. Funny stuff.

Then who would you like to start at QB next week?

Huh... I hadn't pegged you for one of the True Believers. Nor should you have. Tyrod got the original start based on the summer. He can lose or maintain the job based on how he continues to play (and perhaps how many games he wins, even with not good play, as unfair as that is.) It's reasonable to assume that players will improve year over year. And yes, it's reasonable to assume that when you create a statistical vacuum by removing a player's contribution that something will fill that gap. Crediting the entire team with 50% of Tyrod's totals as a replacement is reasonable. But EJ proved that assumption wrong when he got worse from 13 to 14. Why should we ignore that? And if you want to credit the rest of the team for half of his rushing totals if he was removed, fine, but it's unreasonable to believe that the replacement at QB (who at this point can only be EJ) would make up the other 50% in any way. Because he has never attained as many yards as Tyrod has. You claiming that EJ is going to improve to adding 236 yards in 5 games is completely groundless. Besides "sometimes players get better." Maybe he's one 5 yard pass per game better? How do you know? Perhaps Tyrod is better than EJ, but this was never a true QB competition. Rex has coveted Tyrod for years, Groundless. and has no ties to EJ, and there is not reason to assume that EJ has no trade value. The truth is, that EJ was our best quarterback in the pre-season games; and every objective observer commented that he was much improved. If this was no true competition, and Rex didn't want EJ, and he had trade value, it is reasonable to assume that he would've been jettisoned. See how easy it is to just assume a story? And no, EJ was the best QB in exactly 1 preseason game. The other two, along with almost every practice rep, he was not. Every objective observer also said Tyrod was the best QB in the preseason, and you see how that translates to the game field. Why can the same not be true for EJ, practice improvement and game bum like he has been his whole career? As I said, I don't know if "The Guy" is on our roster; I just know that Tyrod isn't "The Guy". This is like Tim Tebow all over again. Really? Tebow-like to say that Tyrod won the job and he's the best QB on the roster? I'm not crowning him. I think he's exciting when he plays well. I don't know who you think you're talking to right now.

That's crap and you know it. We "assume" that EJ is better because he had a decent preseason? And we "assume" that somebody is gonna easily replace at least half of the yards that Tyrod is getting on the ground. Sounds like we can assume everything that suits your argument. Here's what I'll assume. I'll assume that Tyrod is better than EJ because he kicked the hell out of him in the QB competition. I'll assume that EJ had no trade value. I'll assume that, if Tyrod isn't the answer, we'll be gearing up for a run in 2016 with a new QB. It's Tyrod or bust this season.

He's well on his way to 2k yards with someone who finally understands him and can get him involved.

Seeing as I doubt you're campaigning for Dustin, I have some numbers for you. EJM averaged 209 yards gained passing per game. TyGod is averaging 219 yards gained passing per game. Where are those 187 yards coming from? Looks like we'd be down 237 total yards by week 5 going with someone else on the roster.

It might be replaced by 18 EJ incomplete passes. Or 1 yard dumpoffs.

If he wants to sit, he sits.

Yep. The wording was exactly the same as this topic.

Or they mean on 3rd and 23, he is wide open to easily rush for 23 yards.

Looks like he won't be back til after the bye at the earliest.

Gug, stop calling into radio shows. Will in "Queens" isn't throwing me off the scent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BheBEQIKUxI&feature=youtu.be