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Wayne Arnold

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    Sorry Blokes but I knew he would get injured eventuality due to his frailty, just thought it would be in a game.

     

    Theses players are getting smaller and faster leading to more injuries.

     

    The game was a lot more fun when it was based on smashmouth football with bigger and slower players who could take more of a beating due to their size and with less force on them due to their slightly less speed.

     

    lol this was a freak injury. Quarterbacks not named Romo these days rarely get injured and can play until they're 50. Starting QB's usually missed at least two or three games per season in the 90's. Now, it's rare for a QB to play less than 15 or 16 games.

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    You're not paying attention to this thread if you don't think there has been a number of posters slamming him for speaking out.

     

    You know what promises change never happens? Not speaking out. Or being cowed into silence by the brainwashed masses that think protesting elements of the country which are flawed is the same thing as disrespecting the entire country.

     

    You know you're dealing with an open-minded person who's all for open debate and embracing other ideas when he pulls the "brainwashed" card.

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    Since when did the National Anthem become a thank you to veterans and fallen soldiers?

     

    When I stand and place my hand over my heart (which is 100% of the time) it's because I love my country and I'm grateful for my rights and freedoms.

     

    We have Veterans Day and Memorial Day to honor those who fought and those who died.

     

    Um...how do you think those rights and freedoms came to be?

     

    "Freedom isn't free."

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    Count me as a veteran who was not offended by this.

     

    He sat down. It's not like he ran to the middle of the field and burned an American flag. He simply didn't stand up.

     

    Do I agree with it? No.

     

    Is it his right? Yes.

     

    Does it affect anyone on the face of the earth? Absolutely not.

     

    Personally, I get more offended when people are on their cell phones during school concerts. This is a non-issue.

     

    I didn't say it was offensive. I said it was disrespectful.

     

    I appreciate your not being offended but that's why we stand for the national anthem - to show respect for the concept of freedom and equality and honor those who fought and died for those things. Otherwise what are we doing?

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    I'm not lumping those things together, the folks saying he's disrespecting vets are.

     

    No veteran died for his right to play football. They served and died for his right to freely express his opinions. Saying that a guy who's exercising the very rights those "patriots" died for is somehow disrespecting them is to miss the entire point of their sacrifice.

     

    Asking him not to protest because it's offensive to vets is disrespecting what those vets fought and died for way more than what CK is doing. Sorry, you're way off base on this one.

     

    No one is saying he shouldn't protest. People are saying he's wrong to protest the very thing that symbolizes freedom and equality. You're just as misguided as he is.

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    Protesting the flag, or the country, or the government, or the police is not the same as disrespecting vets. That's just not a thing.

     

    Why are you lumping all of those things together? Focus on the topic at hand. Protesting the national anthem is absolutely disrespectful not only of vets but of all American patriots (Tubman, MLK, Robinson, Ali, Parks, etc.) who have made sacrifices while striving toward equality.

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    Disrespecting a symbol that means a lot to many americans makes him a dirtbag.

     

    Disrespecting a symbol of a country that allowed him to experience wealth that NONE of his ancestors could have dreamed of makes him a dirtbag.

     

    He has the right to say or do what he wants. But he has no right to emotional protection from the response he deserves.

     

    He's not a dirtbag. He's misguided. And he shouldn't be vilified for being misguided.

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    Love it.. I want to see more people protest what this country is becoming..To me its about wallstreet abuse and the politicians who kowtow to it..Way to much money pouring into politics and way to many people unwilling to stand up to it but would rather whine about all the other BS

     

    You want to see more people protest a ceremony meant to honor those who have fought and died and made sacrifices for our freedom and endeavors toward equality?

     

    That's messed up.

  9. From a football perspective I disagree with Kapernick taking an action which at best is a distraction from the immediate football goal of winning the game.

     

    However, as a human being, I agree with Kap on the substance that it is the "right" thing for a perceived leader (deservedly or not stud athletes are role models for kids) to take a stand in favor of the rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness of an aggrieved party in US society.

     

    I totally agree that Kap as an American has every right to protest even far more vigorously than simply not hand over hearting when the anthem is played. He can burn the flag for all I care (in the proper setting - like in a protest in the public square but not out of the blue prior to a game) and be wellwithin hs rights as an American.

     

    However, as a football fan his protest is merely a distraction from the game.

     

    Pro football is unimportant "mere" entertainment in the big picture. I do not find Kap doing the "right" thing to be very entertaining for this fan.

     

    I watch football to forget about important stuff!

     

    By your logic, the anthem itself is a distraction from the game.

  10. I remember when Muhammad Ali was vilified for refusing induction into the Army when the Vietnam War was raging. His principled stand turned out to be the right thing to do when view through the lens of history.

     

    Not even close to being comparable, imo.

     

    Ali refused to join a war which we know now was a war we should have never been fighting in - and had intelligent, logical reasons for his refusal. Ali was able to vocalize his innovative ideas which generated discussion (ie heated debates) then and those ideas are still used today.

     

    While Ali was protesting a true national policy (a war), Kaep is protesting isolated incidents.

     

    Even if Kaep somehow starts a movement with this silly thing - what's going to change? How can one change natural occurrences within a society and actions from individuals by protesting a country's flag and anthem? Even if one thinks the flag symbolizes government polices - there's no U.S. policy that calls for the mistreatment of black people.

     

    Monumental differences between the two.

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    This is another way of saying " live and let live."

     

    No, it's not.

     

    I couldn't disagree more with Kaepernick here but I'd honestly rather see a person do something like this if he truly feels strongly about an issue than do nothing. As dumb and disrespectful as I think a public figure intentionally sitting for the national anthem is - at least he's passionate enough about what he perceives to be an injustice to make a sacrifice for a cause.

     

    To me, that's much more admirable than those who agree with what he's doing, yet won't do the same - not because they respect all of the patriots who have defended our freedom and made sacrifices that has led us closer to equality (what the flag symbolizes) but because it would put a dent in their bank accounts.

  12. The attached link is the same link that I used in a previous response to this topic. I respectfully but strenuously disagree with you that all communities are treated the same by the police. The Department of Justice recently did an extensive investigation of the Baltimore Police Department. Their condemning conclusions can be found in the link. This is the type of police behavior that CK was addressing with his controversial stance when the National Anthem was played.

     

    http://www.vox.com/2...partment-report

     

    And this is where so many people think Kaepernick is...*ahem* misguided.

     

    The flag and anthem should symbolize everything good about the United States. The freedoms and equality so many patriots of all races have fought and died for over the last 250 years are honored during each anthem. Making a public spectacle as a public figure by intentionally sitting down for it is basically spitting in the face of each and every one of those who made such tremendous sacrifices. And for what? Because of isolated incidents due to systematic flaws within our police department and justice system?

     

    Does he honestly believe that the United States intentionally persecutes against any race? And that the flag symbolizes that continued persecution? If he believes that, then he's simply not bright.

     

    And if he realizes that systemic racism is a natural flaw within our society which has resulted in blacks and other minorities being mistreated since the colonies declared independence and we continue to make strides toward eliminating that flaw to allow for equality for all races - and he still sits down for the anthem, then he's simply an *expletive*.

     

    Two choices.

  13. We need to move on from EJ cause we need Cardale Jones to be ready to assume #2 when EJ's rookie contract runs out. We are 4 years in and if he is still looking like a deer in the headlights I think odds are that isnt going to magically change. All of you working for the social media team for the PR firm he hired have done a good job but didnt have much to work with. Kudos to you.

     

    How was EJ a deer in the headlights? He performed very well on Friday and led the team to a come-from-behind win.

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