Wayne Arnold
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Pretty disrespectful statement there.
Ravens knew exactly what Taylor is. That's why they recognized he was barely even worth having as a backup.
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Today's team looked like 3-13.
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I see a team that is actually pretty good with an offense tbat went against a tough defense. You can cry about a 13-7 loss but keep in mind, we only gave up one TD and the Ravens defense played well.
You've got to be kidding me.
This was as bad an offensive performance as we've seen over the last ten years (that's saying something) and you're here trying to put perfume on a pile of fresh poo.
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Ya.
They lost a close game on the road to a good team. No need for harikari.
Lose at home to mediocrity: then it's time to say WTF.
How do you know the Ravens are good? They didn't look good at all today. The Bills just looked worse.
These are two losing teams.
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Why is that amazing to people? You're all acting like this team has done ANYTHING to merit people believing they should be listed among the top 6 in the AFC.
Because that's quite the percentage. I would think an average team would get 75-80% tops. I didn't think anyone aside from the worst team in the league would get a prediction that poor from NFL writers.
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That was the one that got me riled up. Roby should have been ejected.
Funny. That's the one that was legit.
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Only 1 out of 40 experts polled by newyorkupstate.com predict the Bills will make the playoffs.
98% of NFL writers/experts from NFL.com, PFF, ProFootballTalk, USA Today, CBS, ESPN, etc. who do this for a living do not think the Bills are a Top 6 team in the AFC.
Amazing.
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What's odd is that there are exceptions to offsetting rule, but I think it only applies to 15/5. In other words, if one team has a 15 yard penalty and the other a 5, I don't think they fully offset.
It wouldn't surprise me if they expand the exception to basically say personal foul won't be offset.
There should be a difference between a 15 yard pass interference and a 15 yard ejection-worthy personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. They shouldn't be treated equal.
If that shot had occurred after the whistle they would have applied the penalty and then the personal foul and it would have been first-down Panthers. That's what they should do. Treat the personal foul like its own entity and not part of the game, regardless of when it occurs.
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Looking at the video, it's clear to me that he pulled back when he threw because he was bracing himself for the shot to the head.
So while he did release the ball first, I think the reason it didn't make it past the line was due to the imminent spear.
Ironically, it would have been better if he just held onto the ball.
I'm sorry but this is absurd.
Actually you are wrong.
Summary From The Official NFL Rule Book - Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8
It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line).
Oh and there is this from 2016 NFL operations:
Then I guess Newton really should have been called for spearing when he used the crown of his helmet to hit the defender in the head after all.
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this doesn't make much sense to me. I haven't noticed other players around the league getting big extensions and FA deals having to prove they can "last a full season." Even if he did "prove this" this year, how would that guarantee he doesn't get hurt the following year? He's either worth it as a player or he's not but I don't see how if he doesn't get hurt this year it proves anything for the future.
His injury last year wasn't some anomaly. It was his own fault attempting a dumb shoulder tackle. He hasn't played a full season since his rookie year. That's legitimately concerning if you're looking to invest that much in a player.
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Really hoping they don't break the bank for Gilmore right now. Let the season play out. If Seymour is good enough, he and Darby can hold down the fort. If not, then you sign or tag him. I'd rather they use that money on the front 7 and/or the safety position.
Agreed. As good as Gilmore may be, he has to prove that he can last a full season and if God willing Bills ever play in January that he'll be available. Otherwise he's worthless.
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Doc, not trying to argumentative...but i am pretty sure you can hit a a "runner" in the head. That includes receivers after they have established position and are no longer defenseless. I don't think you can target and launch a runner( they changed that cause of the Pitt/Cinci playoff game....
or did i miss a massive rule change and all hits to the head are now illegal?
I am trying to be argumentative - and you are correct.
I didn't think the hands to the face on Harris was bad on the zebras. I thought it was atrocious that a veteran corner was lined up in press coverage and undisciplined with his technique.
The Cam-Slam is another story. He just doesn't get calls that other QBs get.
I still haven't seen a gif from last night where Newton should've received a call but didn't. Anyone?
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It was a penalty but it was offset.
Should have been an ejection. There were more:
If anything, spearing could have been called on Newton here. The defender is leading with his shoulder while Netwon is putting his head down and hits the defender square in the side of his helmet.
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I am not whining but I do think it is an interesting rules question. Should something like intentional grounding a "technical" infingement really offset a potentially dangerous physical infringement?
Think of it this way:
They enforced the legitimate intentional grounding. Which pinned them back and lost them a down so it's 3rd and extremely long. Then they enforced the personal foul penalty, which gave them an extra down and the yardage they lost back.
Do you feel better now?
I agree.
Also consider the fact that the reason he couldn't get it past the line of scrimmage is because a guy was in the process of spearing him In the face.
He had already thrown the ball before he was speared.
Some of us are football fans as well as Bills fans, and some of us also care about things like player safety and blatant rule violations being ignored or minimized by game officials.
I've been reading threads for years about how it's not fair that quarterbacks don't play by the same rules and you can't touch them without a penalty and Brady can play until he's 50 because he can't be touched, etc. Now there's an uproar from the complete opposite perspective. Crazy.
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hey man as long as he gets it done without getting a wellness violation its none of my business!
You bumped a 10-day old thread for that?
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How is this not a penalty? One of our players was called for personal foul for hitting the QB at the waist this preseason
It was a penalty. I don't know why so many are whining in this thread. Unless they're all Panthers fans on a Bills forum.
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Kumar Aiken flat out balled last year. Kid can play.
The former St. John Fisher camp body?
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We’re told that 1 in 3 NFL players will suffer from Alzheimer’s or dementia at younger ages than their peers; that they’refour times more likely to die from degenerative brain diseases; that 78 percent will be broke or nearly so within two years of retiring; that they may be disproportionately inclined to beat their wives; and that they live, on average, to the age of 55 or 60. It’s enough to make you wonder if banning football would be good for America. --Slate
1 in 3 NFL players. Not 3 in 3 people who participate in football.
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For those whose cable provider does not offer MSG - is there a way to watch?
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Just refuting you saying it doesn't. I'm okay with my choices. I don't buy tickets or nfl Sunday tickets or merch (unless its second-hand throwback stuff on ebay). Just pirate games.
Saying football destroys all lives is ludicrous.
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Football will destroy your life. Handy interactive graph to toggle between leagues. Pretty stark.
http://graphics.latimes.com/workers-comp-interactive/?q=*&p=1&s=nfl&c=lastname&o=asc
Then stop supporting something that destroys lives.
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I don't read it that way. He's just pointing out something everyone sort of knows but prefers to ignore. Football, and other sports to some degree, will destroy your life. You can choose to play but know what lies ahead for you. People still smoke even though they know lung cancer is a possibility.
"Football will destroy your life."
I think it's unfortunate that there are people who really believe that football will (not may, not could...WILL) destroy every life that participates in it with no exceptions.
I like Dunne's writing and I'm glad we're getting more and more information about the effects of hits to the head because I want football to continue to become more safe. My problem with Dunne is that his tone is so dramatically apocalyptic. For instance...
"This sport remains intoxicating as ever, set to dominate America's attention yet again.
"Yet Borland might've cracked a fragile foundation.
"His decision still casts a pall over football."
All that's missing is a gif like this...
The needlessly separated three paragraphs above is followed by a list of players who have retired before age 30 - as if it's a bad thing. I think it's great that non-quarterback players are retiring early. If Borland truly had 30 concussions before age 24 then he should have been done with football long before he retired. More should do the same.
But not everyone is as prone to concussions/CTE as others. We need to continue not only making the sport safer but make medical advancements to see which players are more susceptible to CTE.
I don't think any players aside from quarterback or kicker should play beyond the age of 30. Those players are more likely to live happy lives after football than those from 20 years ago who played into their mid-30's with no concussion protocol systems. Those players having retired has not effected the health or popularity of the sport. There are players to take their place.
Instead of positively endorsing change to football and showing how the information we are receiving is positive for the long-term health of the sport, Dunne's tone (spin) is one of a dark, depressing relishing of the negative publicity the sport has been receiving for many years now which has led to more and more parents disallowing their children from participating in it.
You can't compare fake life (NFL, NBA etc) to real life (factories etc). The same rules don't apply to both.
This is true.
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If he gets picked up it'll be like week 2, maybe. All in all there's a huge risk with Williams with his weight and with his concussions. He's pretty much one concussion away from being done forever and with the way he runs it's bound to happen sooner or later.
Yep. Anyone prone to concussions like that should be ineligible to continue. He's going to have major issues later in his life if he keeps playing.
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Ravens did not look like a quality football team yesterday. I'd be very surprised if they won more than 7 games.