The Jokeman
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18 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:
QB Joe Webb - go
RB Mike Tolbert - go
RB Travaris Cadet - stay
RB Taiwan Jones - goWR Deonte Thompson - go
WR Jordan Matthews - stay
WR Brandon ate - go
WR Jeremy Butler - goOT Seantrel Henderson - stay
DL Kyle Williams - stay (want to see him retire as a Bill)
DL Cedric Thornton - goLB Preston Brown - stay
LB Ramon Humber - stayCB EJ Gaines - stay
CB Leonard Johnson - go
CB Shareece Wright - stayS Colt Anderson - go
S Shamarko Thomas - go
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TE Nick O’Leary - stay
TE Logan Thomas - stayDE Eddie Yarbrough - stay
CB Lafayette Pitts - go
Johnson > Wright and I'd keep Thornton around for depth.
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25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
If they wait for him to fall to 21, he will not be there.
I wouldn't want him even if he fell to 21. His size and the Hiesman stank make me weary of him. Toss in his off the field issues, let someone else draft him.
8 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said:I don't get why everybody says Johnny Manziel 2.0 in terms of Mayfield. The only thing they have in common is their height.
Mayfield has shown a lack of respect for the game/his competition etc. Thats where the Manziel comparison stem from.
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3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Yeah, totally agree with he’s better than TT. I’m not closing the door on Goff by any means. I was strictly citing the very common comparison link to Wentz given the draft slotting and good records of both teams. I would certainly take Goff as a young developing QB. I was only meaning I feel Wentz is still much further along in being a good QB where I am not sold on Goff yet.
Goff has a great coach though who seems to coach to peoples strengths and weaknesses. But Goff is going to need to be more than what he is to have a sustainable and successful career as a quality starter. And he certainly is promising and has time, just not where Wentz is yet IMO.
Valid points, I can't disagree with you.
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9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I cringe when people lump Goff in with Wentz. They are not the same IMO, at least not yet. Goff is not a good downfield thrower while Wentz is coming into his own as a very good QB. Goff is a short throw dump off specialist as of right now where Gurley and his guys like Kupp, Woods, and Garret thrive, not to mention Austin and Higbee. I have yet to see him impress me as a QB and I watched every Rams game this year in LA.
By no means has he peaked and has a great coach, but I worry he might disappoint next year. McVay is a great mind and put him in the right spots to succeed, but with more tape on them, I wonder if they will find the same offense success next year and if Goff will take a step forward or back. Take away the short passing attack and you can beat the Rams fairly easily.
A guy named Brady was a short throw specialist too but he improved over the years. Peyton and Brees don't have the biggest arms either. The Bills need a QB who can flip the field or sustain drives and produce bigger than Tyrod when we're down late. I'll agree Goff isn't as good as Wentz but to me he's miles ahead of Tyrod and why brought them us a QB that Rosen compares to. As to me Goff seems to understand the chess game that makes successful QBs. Something Tyrod doesn't.
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1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said:
A good starting CB is a lot easier to find (and less valuable in terms of building a winning team) than a good starting QB.
I've always been in belief you build a roster and the QB is the end piece. We made the playoffs last year with a QB who threw 14 TD passes. I think Rosen can be another Goff/Wentz and gladly trade up for him and fill holes on defense in free agency.
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2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
We get four picks in the first two rounds. Good personnel guys can do a lot with that.
But you're right: we don't have the draft position to land a top notch QB. And if we do trade up to nab a QB, it'll be at the cost of a lot of that 'draft capital.'
And we have so many positional needs, any package to get up into the top 5 will mean we'll have several unplugged roster holes after the draft.
Assuming we don't sign Cousins am sure we could fill three positions in UFA, yes we have depth holes but think the notion the we have so many needs over hyped.
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8 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
There is a LOT of hype about haw draft capital rich the Bills are this year. Looking at the Bills’ picks this year, it seems that they are a lot poorer than the hype.
in round 1, Bills picks 21st and 22nd. Neither pick is a prime selection. *Maybe* a trade of both picks gets them high enough to get a good QB prospect.
in round 2, both picks are in the bottom third of the round. All of the exciting players who might be left till round 2 will be long gone by the Bills’ 2 late picks in this round.
The Bills’ own pick in round 3 was traded for Kelvin Benjamin- like that trade... BUT the remaining “draft capital “ in round 3 is the very LAST pick of the round. It is unlikely that pickbis finding a long-term contributor.
Round 4 may give a shot at a mid-level contributor for a few years and the 5th round picks are fairly long shots to ever be a contributor.
Bottom line, I don’t see a QB in this draft worth trading the farm for. So far this offseason, I have no reason to believe that any of Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph are any worse prospect than Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Mayfield.
With the the recognition that waiting until 21 might get them shut out of the QB derby, I can’t see a powerful case to pay a lot to trade up...
QBs generally get over hyped every draft and one usually falls. See Aaron Rodgers, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr and Watson as recent examples. I could see one of the "big 3" that as I define as Rosen, Donald or Allen fall. I admit not a fan of the 3rd happens to fall, I have no issue making a move like Chiefs/Texans made last season to get one of them in top 15 if we don't lose Gaines and find a starting DT and LB in free agency. Yet not opposed taking Rudolph at 21 and keeping the rest of picks else where. I mean let's not forget we got White with a pick lower than 22 last year.
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7 minutes ago, Commonsense said:
Wasn't big on Leslie coming into last season but I'd hate replacing both coordinators in the same season. I assume they already fulfilled the Rooney Rule requirement as they had McDoofus hired.
Come on back Leslie!
Yeah they've already interviewed Kris Richard. That said, I'd think Reich be the best choice of whom they've reached out in the next group as he has a history with Luck in Indy, is offensive minded and of course coming off the Super Bowl win. That said am not sold on him myself but to me he's the best "sell the fans" candidate for the team at this point.
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2 hours ago, kdiggz said:
i don't think i trust the scouts enough to give up that much to trade up for a QB. they would probably pick the biggest bust of them all. they will take Todd Blackledge and then Dan Marino will be picked in the 20's and we would have had him without trading up
Yet if we take Beckledge than we can't get Tony Hunter!
In terms of the original thread and trading up, I have no issues trading up to the top 2 as it could be a McEichel type move. Of course hopefully we get some get players with our remaining picks this year and use the available cap space to fill other holes.
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13 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said:
Cell or land line?
Ahem.
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1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said:
Now that the 2017 season is officially over - what should be our offseason priorities? While we do have a nice stash of picks, Bills have even more holes to fill than last years' offseason.
1. QB Situation - Trade for Foles or 1st round QB in Draft along with a Tyrod trade for a 4th / 5th rounder would be my choices.
2. WR - Going into preseason with Benjamin and Zay "Mr. Drop" Jones as 1 and 2 just scares me. Some nice speed options with John Brown, Pryor or even Martavis Bryant. Would rather have one of these guys than use a first rounder on WR.
3. DL - Need a replacement for Kyle. Hughes' performance also sliding. Just two teams sacked fewer than the Bills in 2017. Definite Draft priority - Round 1 if no QB.
4. OL - Eric Wood replacement. Draft Priority - Round 1 if no QB.
5. LB - Arguably the worst unit on the Bills' defensive side. Milano is a keeper but need 2 more guys. After the Milano experience, trust the staff can find starter material in 2nd and thrid rounds. Alternatively, can live with a NaVorro Bowman signing. Singlehandedly improved Oakland's defense. But is 30 years old. Was hoping for Mason Foster but Redskins resigned him for a rather cheap deal.
6. CB - With news that Ej Gaines is on his way out, we have another hole to fill. Butler anyone? Would love for him to shutdown Hogan / Cooks twice a year and watch Belichik answer questions about that.
7. TE - With questions about Clay's durability, is the NIcklaus' bloodline the answer? I kinda liked the guy from the Jets (whose TD was called back against the Pats).
1. QB.I'd love Cousins but his salary would hurt us more than help us in 2018, so part of me wants to trade up and get Rosen yet part of me thinks staying at 21 and 22 to get someone like Rudolph and DT are a better option which brings me to...
2. DT Even if Kyle is brought back he's a depth guy at this point in his career, we need to replace Dareus' size and while I think we'll make an effort to get Star Lotulelei yet also like to give DaQuan Jones a looksy to (UFA from the Titans) and possibly draft one with pick 22.
3. LB Lorenzo Alexander showed his age last year so like to find another guy to start ahead of him, possibly in Round 2 of the draft.
4. Depth WR. I mentioned him in another thread but Bruce Ellington be a strong slot/return man WR option in UFA and doubt break the bank to get him.
5. Depth CB. Re-signing Gaines is vital and one would think our coach/GM know how important the secondary is by their UFA last season and drafting of a CB in Round 1 last year.
6. Depth at the interior O-line as Ritchie not getting younger and while like Groy starting at C it doesn't hurt to have someone behind him.
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If the stories of him being drunk and being found with marijuana are true, no thanks as sounds like the kid has a substance abuse problem. Toss in he seems to be a bit immature this year in the way he was "treated". He's a good but not great CB that will be looking for number 1 money and maybe a team desperate for one will give it to him yet I wouldn't. Re-sign Gaines and LeoJohn and draft someone with one of our top 5 picks.
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5 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:
Question is will Frank Reich get a head coaching job before McDermott is inevitably fired?
Frank doesn't do any play calling in Philly, not sure if he did in San Diego. I like him as a person but I'm not sure Frank will ever be a HC as not sure he has the "fire" to be one. Also by making the playoffs think McDermott has bought himself at least three more seasons here and can't see Reich being a HC candidate the next few years.
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4 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said:
Was really intrigued by idea of taking Mason Rudolph and James Washington back-to-back. May not have to move at all. You have a 6'5" QB and your X, Y and a new Z receiver. You give your QB his college security blanket. Sign a Bradford/Keenum type as a bridge and away you go. What do people think?
We need a depth WR so can't see taking one in first three rounds and actually prefer we sign a vet to fill the role. Bruce Ellington. Fits the mold of a slot WR who can also play the return man role.
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On 11/8/2017 at 3:14 AM, machine gun kelly said:
I know he beat us in SB 25, but I love Parcells. Can you believe on that team it was Coughlin as the OC, Belicheat as the D.C. And Parcells as head coach. All will be HOF someday like Parcells.
Coughlin was never an OC just a WR coach.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
I see him as a complementary RB as well, but nothing wrong with him exploring his options in UFA to see if any team will accommodate him.
I agree he should explore his options but sometimes these guys need to have more realistic expectations of their worth. Whether it be a pride or agent thing (see money) I just can't see why McKinnon thinks he's shown in his career thus far he can be a feature RB.
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17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
McKinnon wants to go to a team where he's the feature back.
He'll have to accept a backup job as can't see many teams making him a feature RB.
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1 minute ago, Nihilarian said:
I don't think you are.
Cousins will command more money than the Bills want to spend on a QB. It's my thinking they will get a better bridge QB this year and draft a top rookie QB.
Who is this better bridge QB? I'm not a Tyrod fan but don't see many on landscape.
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1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:
I give this team/coaching staff tons of credit. It was an obvious rebuild year and we made the playoffs! We're going to be much more talented this year as well but McD consistently says they're building a team, not just a collection of talent.
We are less flawed then most think. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyrod is kept. He has to be used in a college type manner, I wanted Smith , don't think Cousins is a McD guy, hope I'm wrong.
And when gas college ball won in the NFL?
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On 1/27/2018 at 11:45 PM, JaCrispy said:
Doubt it...with the broncos roster it appears they are in a win now mode...we are still a year or two away b fore we have a shot to being true contenders...the Bills getting cousins wouldn’t make much sense because we don’t have the rest of our team together yet imo.
Cousins is 29, he isn't too old if the Bills make a push in 2019. That said four picks in first 55 or so could make it quicker.
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5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
The smart money is on them taking him at #1.
Some feel Brown's like Allen and with his Senior Bowl performance and if can follow up with a strong combine he could be the top pick at QB. Yet I like Rosen best.
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7 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:
Aside from the money, what makes us possibly attractive is all the high picks and some guarantee that we'll use at least one, or free agent money, on a stud receiver.
Benjamin is a stud WR he averaged 1000 yards and 8 TDs in the two full seasons he's played.
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6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I don't think signing Cousins would have any effect on the core of our team. Maybe Glenn or Hughes would become cap casualties but we could afford to lose both of them if it came to that.
Glenn maybe cuz of Dawkins but not Hughes.
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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
If he becomes a FA I could see it.
Or even a trade as still have the draft picks to pull it off.
Doug Farrar: Best Under-the-Radar Free Agents for 2018
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If we can't get Star from Carolina than DaQuan becomes my number 1 target in free agency, assuming we re-sign Gaines.