The Jokeman
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Tyrod's good as gone in 2018; so play the kid Peterman and see if he improves or warrants us to not need to take a QB earlier than later in the 2018 draft.
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5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Completion percentages in college are very sketchy. They include so many pitches and dump offs. They don’t take into account what a QB is and isn’t asked to do within a given scheme. I don’t even look at them, personally. Jackson runs a pro style offense, not an option based or spread offense ( though it’s a diverse offense that incorporates some elements of the spread) and that’s a huge difference. Secondly, you really need to take a look at how many drops his WRs have this year. It’s incredible.
Yet he's been compared to Michael Vick which to me is not a good thing, as Vick (like Tyrod) was a great athlete but a below average QB when it comes to passing the ball.
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I'm resistant as he doesn't have the best of completion percentages, I know it's one stat but it worries me that he's another great college athletic QB and not a pure passer which is what you need to maintain long term success in the NFL.
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8 hours ago, The juice said:
Too many times this year with blunders in and out of game. Yesterday, the terrible challenge when Brady’s knee hit with NO ONE touching him. Disgusting
because that lost time out really hurt us when it counted most
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2 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:
I figure it is on account of he played good.
Except when it mattered the most, Jimbo didn't play too well in any of our Super Bowls.
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3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:
For many teams, the receiver corps has a positive effect on the offense, ie making catches they probably shouldn't catch, route running, adjusting to broken plays. These guys have quite a negative impact. I don't think we properly take in this impact when we talk about quarterbacks.
Jordan Matthews was a star in Philly. Zay Jones was a record breaker at ECU. Holmes was a role player in Oakland. Guys like Watkins, Woods, Hogan and Goodwin have shown to be better with other QBs not named Tyrod. Truth is he's not a starting NFL QB.
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5 hours ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:
Mayfield knows he is the best player on the field. Give me that guy at quarterback any day of the week. Rhythm thrower? Check. Accurate passer? Check. Arm strength? Plenty. He would be a god send to our team. He is a more polished Mahomes imo.
He lacks NFL size which will drop him on draft day and hopefully someone else takes him.
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4 hours ago, Murdox said:
Guys, there is a lot of focus on TT, but what about Dennison? Exactly what has he proven ? At least we've seen that TT can perform better in a different offense. I haven't seen anything from Dennison, and his gameplans have brought TT down to new lows. And Peterman hasn't exactly shown much. I'm not suggesting TT is the answer, but I do think we need to consider how much our offensive "mastermind" is to blame for this mess. It's not all TT.
What about TT under Roman or Lynn? They couldn't make him a passer either. Dact is TT is an above average athlete but a sub par QB because he double clutches in the pocket or takes bad sacks that cost you 19 yards etc. I'm not saying Dennison's done well either but tired of the deflection away from Tyrod.
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20 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I like the Rams' move a lot better as a model for what we could potentially do.
Rams gave up:
#15 Overall2nd Round (43)
2nd Round (45)
3rd Round (76)
Next Year's 1st
Next Year's 3rd
Titans gave up:
#1 Overall
4th Round (113)
6th Round (177)
If we did the same that would leave us with:
1st overall Selection
KC's 1st Rounder
2 4ths
2 5ths
1 6th
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9 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
chargers will take that division.
Here's to hoping they do as helps the Bills playoff chances.
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From https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/broncos-chad-kelly-lands-on-ir-season-over/
dated 3 weeks ago
Kelly (wrist) will be placed on injured reserve Monday, Zac Stevens of BSNDenver.com reports.
Despite the troubles under center in Denver, the Broncos don't feel that Kelly is ready from a health standpoint at the moment. With his placement on IR, Kelly will have to wait until next season to showcase his talent. -
3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:
I was told this directly through someone who spoke to Taylor Sunday, if I have that right. Basically, a trusted person knows someone who is important who spoke to Taylor Sunday and expressed it was 100% Dennison
Imagine that an OC wanted to bench his QB after he passed for 56 yards and hasn't shown improvements from the preseason when his OC asked him to trust guys to throw it downfield. But I know we can blame someone else besides Tyrod for our 4 losses up to that point of the season.
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5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
QB Stock Watch: Jackson the new No. 1
CHRIS TRAPASSOJackson got compared to Mike Vick, I hope he ends up in Cleveland than and we can trade up with San Fran and snatch Rosen.
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Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:
I'm worried about Peters, but maybe we can avoid his side of the field.
Right, because that isn't a debate worth having. And again, I'm sorry that you perception doesn't align with reality.
The reality is Tyrod got benched because apparently I perceived the same thing as our HC did which is Tyrod isn't good enough and won't be a Bill in 2018.
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Imagine that, you're looking at passing TD % and I'm looking at TD%. Yes Nate's percentage does go up when you omit sacks and rush attempts and Tyrod's stays roughly the same. Do we want to talk about Turnover % while we're at it?
So basically you need to pad Tyrod's numbers with his rushing stats. Yet as a passer the seven year veteran is as good as the rookie with less than 3 quarters under his belt? Bring as many stats as you want I'm not debating that Nate's better than Tyrod, again I'm pointing out that Tyrod's not good enough and if Nate doesn't show marked improvement (assuming he starts again) I'll gladly say he's not good enough. Infact you ask me today who should be the Bills QB next year my answer is Josh Rosen or Mason Rudolph.
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1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:
No. I was being literal. Dennison is the one who benched Peterman
and rightly so Peterman should have been benched.
1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:Because a bunch of people who saw enough of Peterman said he was not worth starting. Why didn't McDermott not recognize this? What on earth did he see to think he was worth starting even if Dennison did?
I think what McDermott sees is that Tyrod not the long term answer at QB so he's giving the next man up a chance to see if he can be, now he failed that test this weekend but should we run a QB out of town after one game?
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1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Peterman's TD% is 3.70 (1 TD scored on 27 Attempts). Tyrod's is 3.84 (14 TDs on 365 Attempts). Peterman's YPA is 6.04. Tyrod's is 6.60.
Yes, it's slightly below league average. I'm not the one that needs to face facts here though Mr. I prefer my perception to reality.
Hmm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PeteNa00.htm shows Nate at 4.2% and https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm Tyrod at 3.9%.
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5 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:
so we sign simien in FA next year?
Na we'll trade Tyrod to the Broncos for their 7th Round pick and Chad Kelly. [/sarcasm]
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12 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
He faced the 3rd most average yards to go on 3rd down in the league and was still 9th in conversion rate. People love to see what they want though.
And before we get the captain checkdown canned response
Last I checked 40.2 is lower than 40.7 so that makes Tyrod below average yes? and 33 rushing first downs over what 40 games let's give Tyrod a medal because he rushes for less than 1 first down per game. Face it his a liability in the passing game no matter how many stats you want to throw at it.
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
He faced the 3rd most average yards to go on 3rd down in the league and was still 9th in conversion rate. People love to see what they want though.
Why not praise Peterman? He's got a better TD % than Tyrod this year? Or he had more passing yards in that dreadful half than Tyrod had through 3 quarters against the Saints? I saw the same thing as McDermott saw, that Tyrod isn't a long term solution at QB if want to be a consistent winner instead his wins this season were padded by a defense that gave him short fields to work with and was playing lights out in the redzone in the early part of the season or had a chance to win against Carolina with a few more plays yet I know if only Zay caught that ball as easier to blame someone else like the defense struggled. Tyrod couldn't carry the team on his back but I know we shouldn't hold him to the same regard as say a Tom Brady whose defense was playing horrible at the start of the season yet the Patriots still found ways to out score their opponents because lord knows they have so many better receiving options than Tyrod has. Let's be happy instead that we have the best rushing QB the last three seasons in the NFL cuz that what counts not passing the ball.
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2 hours ago, Manther said:
I heard Romo was great, but, haven't heard him yet. I look forward to it!
Nantz is amazing just for the Master's alone and how much he loves the Master's! Always great to hear his angelic voice!
I can't believe we have to listen to these guys announce the Bills against the Pats** ! If that Pats** take this away from me for future events! !
AHHHHH, damn it!
Romo is great and clearly knows his stuff but I find his voice annoying as all heck.
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Just now, Mr. WEO said:
By the media voters? No way.
As the old adage says, time will tell.
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8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
I was actually saying he will NOT make it in as a first ballot BECAUSE of the way they have treated TO in comparison.
and I'm debating that he WILL make it because he's more liked/respected than TO.
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4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Passer Rating:
2015 - 7 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 5 of the top 10 made the playoffs
ANY/A:
2015 - 7 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 6 of the top 10 made the playoffs
DVOA:
2015 - 6 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 6 of the top 10 made the playoffs
TD%:
2015 - 6 of the top 10 made the playoffs2016 - 6 of the top 10 made the playoffs
TD/TO:
2015 - 8 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 7 of the top 10 made the playoffs
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TDs passing
2015 - 4 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 5 of the top 10 made the playoffs
Passing yards
2015 - 3 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 4 of the top 10 made the playoffs
Sacks %
2015 - 4 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 4 of the top 10 made the playoffs
4th Quarter Come backs
2015 - 4 of the top 10 made the playoffs
2016 - 7 of the top 10 made the playoffs
You can draw your own conclusions on which stats actually relate to winning QB play.
Or trust my eyes when I watch Tyrod every week and see he just have "it". As he's got part of the RJ syndrome that he doesn't want to make mistakes with the football so he'll take a sack or he'll be Trent Edwards like and check it down to the open RB or do a Flutie thing and run around and not find anyone open and run. Not to mention the EJ Manuel thing and not throw to a guy unless he's open. He might be better than each of those QB individually but he still doesn't add up to a QB that's good enough to get you over the hump. As his liabilities with 3 and outs doesn't "flip the field" and doesn't always help the defense either.
Do you take Lamar Jackson?
in College Football
Posted
If he's a Mariota than I'll gladly take him.