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    Jeff Fisher reportedly eyeing Browns HC job

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

    Not yet but rumor is Dorsey will make the happen ...

     

    another rumor is that he will trade Hue to the Bengals. Yes, trade. I know.

    Maybe he'll trade Hue and picks for AJ McCarron leaving the Bills a chance to trade up for Rosen.

    17 minutes ago, Manther said:

    I heard Fisher was thinking Browns and Bears.  Poor Browns and Bears.  Reminds me of the Rex hire.  The game has passed him by.

     

    The difference between Rex and Fisher (IMO) is Rex didn't care anymore.  But, they both have not adapted to the evolution of football.

    And both worked under Buddy Ryan (Jeff was on those mid 80s Bears teams as a player) hmmmm

    While unlikely, Browns could end up with #1 & #2 picks

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    11 minutes ago, Bill Murray said:

    If Darnold came out, id consider moving back from 1 and moving back from 5 as well.  They could have like 4x 1sts, 4x 2nds, and a bounty of picks next year and could still take Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Rudolph, Josh Allen.  Thats just me though.

     

    Is Myles Garrett any good?

    He hasn't had a sack since November 26, yet his tackling stats are solid. Yet Jibril Peppers has really struggled for them. While the Brown's have the picks and cap room to improve time.will tell if they do yet  not sure they will as their own seems to be quick to change management.

    If Taylor finishes season strong, do we build around him/Dennison?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

    This is what happened last season.  He played a couple of decent games at the end of the year and everyone was on the Tyrod train.  "Draft defense and he will get us into the playoffs", "the light has come on", "he isn't the problem".  

     

    The truth us Tyrod is still what he was year one.  His season by season performances actually deviate very little.  He will have spells where he plays good football (he particularly seems to enjoy playing the Dolphins for some reason) and games where he really struggles to move the offense.  And when you strip the context and the other factors away that is still the truth you are left with.  He is a serviceable, capable NFL starting Quarterback.  What he isn't is a guy who will ever give you a chance to be a contender.  Could he have that one year where it all clicks with a good supporting cast - "the Keenum effect" - yes he could.  But you have to play the percentages and drafting around him to hope for the lightening in a bottle type season is not a sensible approach. Even despite the difficulty in finding a true franchise QB the odds of that are greater than the lightening in a bottle.  

     

    Tyrod was not THE problem in 2015 or 2016..... he hasn't been THE problem in 2017 either.  But his play does not raise the level of those around him and when that is what you are saying about your Quarterback it is A problem.  

     

    I have no problem at all with keeping Tyrod for the final year of his deal in 2018 as the bridge / backup to your rookie Quarterback.  I don't think either side has much of an appetite for that to happen though. Tyrod probably feels like he has played well enough to have the opportunity to start for a different team in 2018 who don't see him as a sitting duck.... but the teams rumoured to be interested last summer were the teams we all knew were going to be bad - Cleveland, Chicago, Denver, New York Jets..... I suspect the market for him looks similar this offseason too.  That might still be preferable to Tyrod than being here as the sitting duck for a staff, fanbase and organisation that doesn't truly believe in him in 2018.  

    He isn't a problem nor is he the solution, hence we need a better QB. I'd love if we could some how land Rosen but that's highly unlikely unless Cleveland again passes on a QB.

    2018 Trade partners moving up the board

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    2 hours ago, CviewBills said:

    My opinion is go after Case Keenum because he'd be much cheaper than Cousins and probably produce about the same.  Then draft one of the remaining QBs with a second round pick.

    Keenum also has a history with Dennison if we keep has OC, as they worked together in Houston. That said I trade up to the top 2 and hope Rosen falls and "settle" for  Darnold.

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    Why is Josh Allen loved by Scouts?

    in College Football

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    On 12/1/2017 at 10:58 AM, mannc said:

    He absolutely seems like a guy the Bills might take a shot at with one of their first round picks.  Perfect candidate to sit behind Tyrod for year, or maybe compete with him in camp.  I would love it.

    You're fooling yourself if think Tyrod going to be back in 2018. Now if we want to sign a guy like Keenum to a Tyrod make it break it type deal (connection to Dennison in Houston) to a two year deal and use one of our top picks on Allen and see if he develops behind Keenum. Yet to me I'd rather trade up and take Rosen. 

    Do you take Lamar Jackson?

    in College Football

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    5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

    Completion percentages in college are very sketchy. They include so many pitches and dump offs. They don’t take into account what a QB is and isn’t asked to do within a given scheme. I don’t even look at them, personally. Jackson runs a pro style offense, not an option based or spread  offense ( though it’s a diverse offense that incorporates some elements of the spread) and that’s a huge difference. Secondly, you really need to take a look at how many drops his WRs have this year. It’s incredible.

    Yet he's been compared to Michael Vick which to me is not a good thing, as Vick (like Tyrod) was a great athlete but a below average QB when it comes to passing the ball. 

    It's really hard to evaluate these quarterbacks with these receivers

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

    For many teams, the receiver corps has a positive effect on the offense, ie making catches they probably shouldn't catch, route running, adjusting to broken plays. These guys have quite a negative impact. I don't think we properly take in this impact when we talk about quarterbacks.

    Jordan Matthews was a star in Philly. Zay Jones was a record breaker at ECU. Holmes was a role player in Oakland. Guys like Watkins, Woods, Hogan and Goodwin have shown to be better with other QBs not named Tyrod. Truth is he's not a starting NFL QB.

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    Two First Rd Picks

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    5 hours ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

     

    Mayfield knows he is the best player on the field. Give me that guy at quarterback any day of the week. Rhythm thrower? Check. Accurate passer? Check. Arm strength? Plenty. He would be a god send to our team. He is a more polished Mahomes imo. 

    He lacks NFL size which will drop him on draft day and hopefully someone else takes him.

    Tyrod injury: patella contusion, day-to-day

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    4 hours ago, Murdox said:

    Guys, there is a lot of focus on TT, but what about Dennison?  Exactly what has he proven ?  At least we've seen that TT can perform better in a different offense.  I haven't seen anything from Dennison, and his gameplans have brought TT down to new lows.  And Peterman hasn't exactly shown much.  I'm not suggesting TT is the answer, but I do think we need to consider how much our offensive "mastermind" is to blame for this mess.  It's not all TT.

    What about TT under Roman or Lynn? They couldn't make him a passer either. Dact is TT is an above average athlete but a sub par QB because he double clutches in the pocket or takes bad sacks that cost you 19 yards etc. I'm not saying Dennison's done well either but tired of the deflection away from Tyrod.

    2x1st Round Draft Picks

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by The Jokeman
    Correction: The 7th we got for Seymour was in 2019

    20 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

    I like the Rams' move a lot better as a model for what we could potentially do.

     

    Rams gave up:
    #15 Overall

    2nd Round (43)

    2nd Round (45)

    3rd Round (76)

    Next Year's 1st

    Next Year's 3rd

     

    Titans gave up:

    #1 Overall

    4th Round (113)

    6th Round (177)

     

    If we did the same that would leave us with:

    1st overall Selection

    KC's 1st Rounder

    2 4ths

    2 5ths

    1 6th

    what about Carolina's 7th we got in the Seymour trade?

    Will Chad Kelly start?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    From https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/broncos-chad-kelly-lands-on-ir-season-over/

    dated 3 weeks ago



    Kelly (wrist) will be placed on injured reserve Monday, Zac Stevens of BSNDenver.com reports.

    Despite the troubles under center in Denver, the Broncos don't feel that Kelly is ready from a health standpoint at the moment. With his placement on IR, Kelly will have to wait until next season to showcase his talent.

    Peterman was historically bad on Sunday

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by The Jokeman

    3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

    I was told this directly through someone who spoke to Taylor Sunday, if I have that right.   Basically, a trusted person knows someone who is important who spoke to Taylor Sunday and expressed it was 100% Dennison

    Imagine that an OC wanted to bench his QB after he passed for 56 yards and hasn't shown improvements from the preseason when his OC asked him to trust guys to throw it downfield. But I know we can blame someone else besides Tyrod for our 4 losses up to that point of the season.

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