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And your post is what every fan base goes down to when their argument fails. Again (sigh) my point was the investigation was FLAWED and done PISS POORLY . Thus making whatever result the came up with easy to punch holes in on both sides.... the investigation SHOULD have been about getting the truth. What it ended up being was a distraction for the NFL so all the fans turn on a common enemy instead of the warts that were all over the NFL that year. It's common tactic in battle, it's called a diversion and we ALL fell for it.

If McCoy plays: 34-7 Bills If he doesn't play: 21-14 bills

I do believe they still had very few fumbles last year as well. This year is different as Jacoby and Jimmy G. Both had like 2 or 3 each.. (but it is up this year... ) As for Deflation, well if it gives you a "competitive advantage" and "against the rules" per the commish it is against the integrity of the game. This Rogers over inflation is illegal and should have been punished. (Not! Because I think the hole thing was a fiasco and poorly done. I guess the lawyer in me feel Goodell lied and was caught in said lie so anything he said before or after is discredited. Ad to the fact he just sucks in general at his job and well.. And my final word on the subject is this. I believe the equipment guys went down there and deflated the balls. Not on direct orders but probably were told by Brady that they better damn well make sure the balls are the weight he likes or there will be hell to pay and he didn't care how they did it. (My evidence is the text after the Jets game where he got a 15 psi balls and was pissed) as for destroying his phone? Well anyone tech savvy knows that doesn't destroy data on it but people's ability to access data from that phone. I.e. You can still get it from the cloud. (How we all are able keep our pics from phone to phone) So saying he "destroyed evidence" just well wrong. He just made getting said evidence a little longer that's all. So in other words GOODELL SUCKS AND HE IS DESTROYING THE GAME!

Yup they scored a TD.

You mean the inflation of the balls that was so important? The same thing they didn't even bat an eyelash over when Rogers said he liked his over inflated because it gave him a better grip? Or the fact when other teams tampered IN GAME with the pressure they only gave them a warning? This had nothing do with "integrity of the game" that's commish speak for "I want make this sound good so I can seem tough and hard on cheaters and people forget the crap I didn't do right" sadly it worked.. most still believe all but one of the balls was 2 psi lower when in fact 10 of the 11 were just a few ticks lower. So yes they are exactly the same offense refusal to turn over a personal phone to an investigation. What the investigation was about is irrelevant. The fact the Commish been caught in a lie proves his word is useless and he wasn't looking for the truth. I put Marino in over Bradshaw and how can you not have P Manning in there

😂 the offense is the same refusal turn over your private phone for an investigation. FUNNY THING I think Rogers needed more air in his Footballs he had 2 off years since deflategate. 😜

Favre refused turn his phone over.. Brady refused turn his phone over... how are they not equivalent. Again I wasn't arguing about this, I was arguing the investigation was done poorly which is pretty much widely accepted. He is one of only 4 QBs with over 5k completions, he a multi time MVP and 3 time SB MVP probably holds more weight. Good point.

Lol that was a year old text from the previous year. Like I said I am not claiming innocence just a terrible investigation. (Sigh) the league had NO RIGHT to his private phone. Also why want Favre suspended for refusing to give his phone over (and never did) he got a 25k fine. Also they got the text from the phone. (As I stated proof is the leaked P Manning Text from the NFL Office.). So he cooperated MORE than Favre but got suspended and not fined? Pats board is boring... and hard have a good football convo.

Lol you KNOW, do ya really know? I mean Do any of us really know? The investigation was God Awful, the only place that agreed with the NFL was the same place did a study saying second hand smoke is fine and doesn't cause cancer. The rest said the ideal gas law was in play. Brady destroyed his phone, but by all accounts the texts were retrieved. (How else do we explain the NFL leaked P Manning text) also under pass accounts where a player. Refused hand over their phone was only a 25k fine. Goodell was caught lying in his appeal Judgement ( he stated Brady denied ever talking to Yaz about deflategate when the transcripts clearly showed he said "we probably did discuss it" ) Also the courts did NOT rule on guilt or innocence of Brady just that Goodell could suspend someone for eating a ham sandwich the wrong way. All in all I am not saying he is innocent but it was by far the WORST investigation of all time by the NFL. IMO and my opinion only the NFL when into the investigation with a presumption of guilt and instead of looking for the truth.

you like to argue, I was correcting your post where you said he was caught twice cheating. That is wrong. Also people will look how he did AFTER deflategate and notice he played BETTER.. heck I am wondering if that's what's hurting Rogers! The fact the balls cant be over ingflated anymore either.

Me again, and I wasn't disagreeing just clarifying is all. 😛😛. I mean what is stated is easily looked up... 😜

Only implicated once... and even that wording was "more likely than not" lol he was cleared of ANY wrongdoing for spygate.

Ah they stil got the TD on that drive lol. Now do that with any of our other QB we probably scold him lol

Now I have less of an issue with Gronk taunting the jerk.

Suck for ?????? (They need a lot not just QB)

Well since both their teams probably still be division winners insay no 😆 Sorry was just waaaay to easy.. 😜

I say Minnesota been rather dominant especially on D against some pretty good Os (like the Steelers)

Pats trade Jimmy G for him and a 3rd round pick... 😂I kid BB insist on a second he loves second round picks! 😂

100% agree I just wanted eball to know. Comparing what Jacoby did against the Texans to what he did/fail to do against the Bills wasn't fair. The guy, to his credit, was playing threw a tough injury for a QB. ( anything on your throwing hand,arm, shoulder be tough) That said the Bills were the more dominant/physical team. As for the rematch it should be fun, only thing I am positive be different.. they will throw more than 3 times in the first half 😂 😂

ROFLMAO A nickname given to him by Marty in the Morning.. (DJ up here in the Boston area)

Yes that same QB was healthy the week before and the next week after was on IR and having surgery in his thumb that was injured in the Texans game. The Bills did dominate but for whatever reason BB felt an injured Jacoby was better than anyone off the street. (He is probably right.) no excuses the Bills won and were the better team that day, but don't make it sound like you were facing a healthy 3rd string QB in Jacoby.

Just a correctionnit is not a groin issue but a Hammy issue for Gronk. I would agree with this if Bennett was not with the Pats this year. With Bennett I THINK they would survive a period without Gronk. (Which they kind of did for the first four weeks.)

Crowley doesn't want baby sacrifices. The King of hell wants more souls... so any new player must take a vow BWAHAHAHA...

You scored 13 points in the first half without punting... I think his point is against Brady that will not do as he will score points. ( and I don't buybthebbikls stopped trying to score either. Was a 2 score game.) yes you dominated on both sides of the ball but come on stop with the "we didn't want run itnup" stuff

Hard to say, he scored 3 TDS Against Miami before going out injured in the second quarter. (No clue what the game been like against Texans or the Bills if he was healthy. ) just think he be good enough w BB and McDaniels to keep the Pats afloat for say a 4 game stretch. (Def no where near as good as Brady.)