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Mike Mularkey Time heals all wounds to a certain extent and it is true with Mularkey. I highly doubt he sees another one: 2006: Mularkey resigns, and joins the Saban Fiasco in Miami as OC and they are god awful on the offensive side of the ball. 2007: Mularkey stays on staff, but not as OC. Eventually demoted to TE coach by Cam Cameron. 2008-2011: Goes to ATL as OC and turns around their offense in his first year. 2012: 6 years since his last HC gig he takes over as Jags HC. Fired after the first year of his 3 year contract 2013-14 Takes TE coach position with Tennessee. 2015-2017: Mularkey takes over for a terrible Wisenhunt. Tennessee is mediocre with Marriota. Fired again. Doug Marrone Marrone after ditching the Bills, thinking he would be a highly touted HC prospect, settles for the OL coach of maybe the worst team in the league. Bradley is canned, which was years in the making. Coughlin retains him, and is probably the only guy in the league who would hire Marrone as HC at the time. Marrone is currently a product of timing and Coughlin. If not for that, I didn't really see him getting any HC jobs in the near future. Probably more treading water in the league for 5-7 years like Mularkey before getting a shot. Paying his dues. When Dareus talks about Marrone being a changed man, I don't doubt it. I would expect that his journey post Buffalo was incredibly humbling too him as a professional and as a man. Josh McDaniels People keep talking about McDaniel's bad time in Denver and what an a-hole he was there. He was also terrible as the OC with the Rams. Him being able to work/be buddies with Tom Brady has been the greatest thing to ever happen to him. I think TB is the real OC of that team, and Belichick controls everything. McDaniels has never ever stood on his own two feet with success. His resume: 1999: Grad assistant under Nick Saban 2000: Moves to Cleveland and works as a plastics salesman. (I sh*t you not) 2001: Patriots Personell Assistant. 2002-2003: Defensive Assistant 2004-2005: Patriots QB Coach. Before McDaniels took over, Brady had already been named Super Bowl MVP TWICE, while Josh was a defensive assistant 2006-2008: Assistant to the Offensive Coordinator (Tom Brady) 2009-2010: Denver-Lots of hot garbage 2011: Rams more hot Garbage 2012-today: Assistant to the Offensive Coordinator (Tom Brady) I think Indy dodged a bullet here, not just because McDaniels is a douche, but because I think he is really bad at his job.

Plot twist: New “good-guy Irsay” also feels slighted. He mails McDaniels a certified letter and check for $20,000. The leter states, that by cashing the check, he understands said money can only be used for his (McDaniels) funeral. Included in the envelope is a single post it note that reads “You’re dead to me”

I don’t want to hijack the thread, so I won’t go back and forth on this after this post. I don’t put people in their place, I expect respect from people in my life, and don’t surround myself with people who I feel disrespected by. If I have to parent you in being a reasonable human being, there is no place for you. It’s not my job to put you in you’re place. It’s my fault for allowing myself to be aroind continuous disrespect. You can control the people in your life closest to you. If you keep surrounding yourself with disrespect, you might not be as alpha as you think you are. I also don’t think being an A-hole is in any way gender specific. What do I know? Just some beta on the inter webs. ???‍♂️

Whelp...that escalated quickly. I don’t know what happened to you as a kid, but I’m sorry it happened, and it’s ok to feel hurt by it.

He signed a contract that includes the leagues personal conduct policy. He also isn't selling anti-virus in an office. The NFL is a very public choice of employment, where losing your job for personal conduct is more than justified. Some parts might be some paranoia. But they are also VERY common symptoms for women who were in abusive relationships prior. If I had to put money on it, Hurney was probably abusive in the past while married. His actions of stalking are common of abusers. And continued paranoia about the abuser is incredibly common in their victims. Maybe he is/maybe he isn't currently stalking or harassing her. What is highly likely is, he is paying the piper for past behavior. Not out of her need to get back at him, but very real psychological repercussions of his past actions. Read up on abusive relationships. This sort of behavior is more common than you are giving it credit for. ^^^THIS^^^ Also the role of the victim in these situations is a very complicated mental state.

This is also probably a little bit of a pattern for Butler. Yes they needed an upgrade at CB, but they brought in Gilmore for similar money they could have paid Butler. I would imagine situations like this are a huge reason as to why that move happened the way it did.

I was recently watching some stuff on Rudolph. Just some thoughts. He needs time. He is a bit more raw than I would like in a QB in the first. I don't know a ton about him as a person or work ethic. Missing some of the things EJ was coming out of college. He had a tremendous work ethic and wasn't able to over come his anticipation in regards to timing throws. If the staff loves him, grab him, and I will trust them. But I wouldn't just take him because I need a QB. It is guys like this that flame out with very QB needy teams. He needs some work. I am sure somebody will though. If he is there for us in the 2nd, by all means, run to the podium and take a flyer on the kid. Pros: -Good long ball. -Keeps his eyes down field when he has to scramble. -Has enough zip to fit the ball into tight spaces. -Can make all the throws -Athletic enough to be a runner at times. Cons: -Wonky mechanics at times -Doesn't throw with enough anticipation. Receivers do A LOT of coming back to the ball sometimes. -Doesn't look comfortable in a messy pocket. -His receivers are generally VERY OPEN. -Head movement/reads can look erratic. Also has a tendency to lock on.

how much horse poo?

I don't think they will be a dark horse at all. Since Manning, then drafting Luck, they have been in the conversation for about 2 decades as being contenders. Add to that, that the media has a short memory in regards to McDaniels because of his association and success with Brady and Bellichick. I fully expect Indy to be media favorites as contenders next year as long as they have a healthy luck. Jacksonville this year was a surprise/dark horse. Same with the Rams. Indy will be shoved down our throats as soon as Lucks health and the draft shakes out.

Admittedly I am in my 30's, so Marino was on the back end of his career when I started watching football that I could remember. TB has been playing so long, about half my entire lifetime, it is becoming easier for me to acknowledge how great he is now. The dude has played basically two careers at this point. It is pretty insane.

There is a weird philosophy in the Bills fanbase where if it didn't work here it is some bad. Analytics are good. The way the Buffalo Bills invested in analytics is bad. It didn't need to be disbanded. It needed to be revamped.

This. Might as well have kept Gilmore for the same cost. He stumbled at the beginning of the season, but IMO has earned his contract. He was the best CB for the pats tonight by far

Although I don’t like Sully and Bucky, my issue with not paying is not them in particular. It’s the idea that there is very little meaningful Bills content. People like Vic because he’s a Buffalo guy and the voice of the Bills. People like Sully and Bucky because they are what’s always been available. But even the articles posted provide very little to the conversation that didn’t exist before. Romo called it an option about 10 seconds after the play. Cover 1 broke down the play. We knew that. A month later an entire article on Tyrod feelings is being dealt as more meaningful journalism. For a city that’s incredibly rabid about their football team, it is odd that the BN hasn’t invested heavily in their staff at a very high level. Even you agnowledge the fact you hear about people’s unhappiness regarding the issue I would believe that the people paying and reading Sully and Bucky, are paying and reading regardless. They are BN sports lifers. But there is a huge opportunity to acquire new customers based on quality of the product regarding football specifically. Surely the BN has metrics on this right? Very few publications have a hard paywall. The move nationally is a soft paywall, purposefully taking it as an opportunity to acquire customers by proving their worth. I pay for the NYT. I’m not anti-pay for good content. I don't find it as shameful as other posters, but it’s a bit uncouth for the sports editor to come in and link their own paid content. Thanks for being around and listening. It’s appreciated. I’m sure the rest of the complainers, like myself on this issue, appreciate your overall presence. We’ll see if it results in any meaningful change.

I don't think we should throw him away. I think he has a future as a decent backup. I also don't think we should hold out hope for him to be our knight in shining armor. Let the kid develop. He can sling it it seems. If he is more of the same next year or the year after. That's fine. It doesn't really cost us anything to wait and see with the rookie contract.

This is my guess. I’m guessing a bit of a heated or disgruntled exchange in the moments leading to his announcement regarding the financial aspect of all of this. Wood stayed clear of commitment to anything regarding plans. Eluded to continued employment. Organization failed to comment in any meaningful way other than “this is Eric’s Day”. McDermott could have said. “Eric has been such a lynchpin on this roster. And we want to make sure we make it clear, that high character guys get high character treatment” but hey didn’t. They talked about his day, and spending his life with his family, while he talked about being an employee. These are people on very different sides of the table.

Do you think they’ll provide information that’s worth a couple bucks per month? Will that paid for imformation be available for free elsewhere, or proprietary to BN? Do you think that subscribed for information will just be me paying for a regurgitation of a report somebody else reported a day or two earlier? Sorry, the BN makes me mad.

I understand this is a copy paste comment from the comments, but WOW. That’s eye openingly racist. Just wow.

To me Schobel epitomizes the drought, good but not good enough. I get the, “they payed in a playoff game they don’t count” mantra but the dude what deserve it: But still.... Brian Moorman Kyle Williams Fred Jackson Eric Wood T. McGee Takeo Spikes Wade Phillips Guys who were either the heart and soul, or played at a top 10 level at their positions on bad teams. Schobel was very good but not great at his job. A very consistent above average contributor.

I don’ disagree with you in a number of ways. But you have to address the prior attempt. What did people do then v. Now. What is different?

Agreed. I think too often we force kids into sports or mainstream sports in general. I coached rowing for a long time and have 2 anecdotal stories both different paths from HS before I moved to college and national team work. 1. Freshman. 6 foot. 170 lbs. Made varsity soccer and was the kicker for JV football. Great athlete. Good at a to of sports. Came to rowing. Took off. Won a national championship his freshman year. Rowed at Princeton. Then rowed for team USA and won medals at the world championships. Wasn’t good enough to be great at the other sports. Found his niche, and excelled. Graduated valedictorian at CHS then magna cum laude at Princeton. Went on to win a few medals at the wold championships for team USA. We stay in touch a decade later. 2. Freshman. Undersized. Good technically. Great kid. Good having him in any boat, but never ever made any boat faster. Left rowing after his sophomore year. Ran track. Distance runner. Sub 4:30 mile in HS. Won a few national championships in college. Great kid. Also still stay in regular touch with. The point is. These young men found something they wanted to do, outside of what they were good at for a number of reasons. We don’t need to keep pushing kids into football and hockey because “sports”. Find what these kids are good at. Support it and enable it. My career is built on winning national championships, but that doesn’t mean the #2 is apart of that. Help guide guide kids into their paths. Learn succes; whether it’s recycling club or staring QB/PG. Then support once they find the passion. Stop emploring the back up QB that football is life when he could be a world class runner, javelin thrower, or political organizer. People arenlosing track of their today for other people’s tomorrows. Football isn’t bad, but let football players play football. Encourage kids strengths and I bet we see head injuries decrease in some fashion.

THIS! Polian has a pattern that hiring “leader of men”. Guys who are soft spoken in a number of ways, leaders of men. But not great football mines in terms of scheme. Polian hires men who have a lot of “yes man” in them. Polian needs a guys who lets him put together his roster the way he sees fit. guys who let the talent play, but never out coach anybody. This model will make a lot of teams better, and elite, year after year. But never a dynasty like the Pats. On one hand, it made his teams great. On the other it’s the reason Manning and the Bills don’t have more rings. You mentioned McCarthy. My opinion, mediocre coach with a great QB. Without Rodgers, he is toast. If Rodgers is good for 3-4 wins per year, they are a 5-7 win team. ouch

I don’t disagree with you on this at all. But....I do think NFL progression as at an all time low, especially at the QB position. At least in my lifetime (32 y/o) Guys drafted in the high first were still expected to sit to a tear or two. Gave careers to the Jeff Garcia’s of the league and they provaided value in one way or another. Now guys come in, suck, go to the CFL, or quit altogether. QB play in the NFL is at an all time low in regards to the median. Who are the up and comers? And those younger than Ben, Roger, Rivers, Who is on a similar Trajectory as a HoF’er. Stafford? Ryan? Wilson? Care? Not me are worthy of the HoF l, or even close, at the half way or greater mark in their careers. For a decade, NFL has been selecting athletes rather than raising/progressing them. It’s going to be a very real issue for them.

I fully agree. I got too wordy. He’s not “the guy” (however if we trot him out there I’d rather be wrong on that, than root against him and be right” larger point, names excluded. I’d rather have a guy with the head and skill set to NP, then I would a tentative guy like Trent or TT. Didn’t mean to advocate for NP over the others. I think it’s easier to reign the style in when the bullets fly, then it is for a guy to try and figure things out when the game speeds up. Not sure if that clarified anything

Not to hijack the thread, but that idea is bogus. “You may get a degree”. Huge portions of these college athletes in any sport are out of state with huge tuitions and a ton of benigtis. I’ve worked in a number of college athletic departments so I’m familiar with my number for my sport. But here is a crazy number. Athletif Deparments in the SEC spend an average of $160k + per athlete per year. So that goes if your the starting DT or the guy who never races on the track team at Bama; averages $160k plus per year in tuition, tutors, living expenses, travel, amps, books, etc. Many guys red shirt freshman year and go 5 years. That’s nearly an 800k lifestyle for 4-5 years. Again averaging fringe sports. Football player are getting much more. They are getting cash. The more we propagate that these kids need more the more we hurt the system. Football is just as time consuming as Rowing. It’s absurd and totally doable. Experience: trained with team USA for years, with zero dollars or institutional support. Worked 20-30 hours per week. And won 6 national championships in the process. Life is hard. People need help, bu they also need accountability. Accountability is lacking in football and basketball not ease of cash for students

Peterman has shown flashes. There is being bad, ie JP and EJ, and guys who make mistakes. Ill take a guy like NP, who from the outside, looks smart and confident. Takes chances, and trusts his eyes /strengths. Where as a guy like Edwards or TT who takes too long to read and doesn’t trust their abilities. I think it’s easier, with the speed of the NFL, to ask a guy like NP to take an extra .25 seconds to let the play develop, then to ask a guy like TT to fire the ball .25 seconds early into a coverage he doesn’t understand. I am not clamoring for NP to be the guy. Not sure he has the mental ability to ever be a starter in this league. Just commenting on what I think he does well in comparison to what we have. He throws a good ball with anticipation. I think thats fair. Disclaimer: I don’t want to go into 2018 as NP as our starter.