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I don't hate anybody - not even Donald Trump - but I do get Section122's sentiment. While I acknowledge the flaws of our HC, QB, etc, I have to root for them. I'm a fan of anyone who wears Bills colors. While the game wasn't a Super Bowl era type blowout, we still managed a win that kept us somewhat in the playoff hunt. So I whooped and hollered and celebrated like a fan. Then I was surprised when I came onto TBD and discovered other fans didn't share my enthusiasm. Kyle Williams and other Bills fought hard for that win. I'm sure Cincy fans would love to have the score reversed. Any Sunday when the Bills win is a good Sunday IMHO.

Points against crappy teams... lipstick on a pig... We can always find reasons to be negative. Hell, fate delivers us Bills fans a lot of reasons to cry. But I think the OP makes an interesting observation. Every team plays crappy teams from time to time and runs up the score when they can. It's an equal playing field. Yet the Bills - despite the injuries - are finding ways to score. A-Lynn et al ought to be commended. Clearly the situation is imperfect. Too many 3 and outs. Too many losses. Still the Bills aren't the Browns partly because the offense can be surprisingly productive.

I would be super stoked if this happened and feel pretty confident the franchise is moving in the right direction. But I'm not expecting 10-6. I'm expecting something more like 8-8 or 9-7.

Good article. Seems like a good lady. So appreciative of her and Terry buying the team to keep it in Buffalo.

The Bills are a very average team with an assortment of strengths and weaknesses typical of an average team. So we'll beat the poor teams left on the schedule and lose to the good ones. And this - depending on how you evaluate our opponents - will get us to 8-8 or, maybe, 9-7. Outside looking in once again.

We all knew this in the preseason. DW didn't acquire talent everywhere. He gave Rex enough defensive talent to be competitive. And Roman enough talent on offense to build a running attack. During preseason, we all acknowledged that WR depth was a problem. As a running team, it seemed the most logical place to have a problem if we had to have a problem somewhere. With Sammy and Woods missing most of the season, and playing hurt when they find the field at all, it's haunting us.

My kind of guy.... a glass-half-full kind of poster.

Shoulda lost... shoulda won... I don't count moral failures just like I don't count moral victories - because the NFL doesn't count them. When we win, it's because we played well enough to win. When we lose, it's because we didn't play well enough to win. I live a simple fan's life: I celebrate all victories and bemoan all losses. Yesterday's win kept us - barely - in the playoff picture. It was a good game.

I always thought of Patulski as a bust - even though I knew his stats showed some productivity. I guess I was influenced by Saban's public statements. Getting the other side of the story was interesting, if sad. Glad he's doing well now. Terry Miller rushed for over 1,000 yards as a rookie at 4.5 yards per pop. Then developed vision problems that ruined his career. Not a classic bust.

100% with ya.

Contradiction or not, I agree whole-heartedly. I'd rather see Tasker get selected than Brown.

If you look at their historical rankings, both Rex and Schwartz have had good and bad years. When they have the players that fit their scheme, they get into the top ten. When they don't have the right players, the bottom ten is more likely. Their overall resumes are dramatically different. Lately, however, Schwartz has been out-performing Rex. Maybe he has a better understanding of how to stop today's offenses? I'm not yet convinced.

Yeah, as much as injuries have hurt us, I'd rather pass on Romo even if he did become available. I know from personal experience that back problems aren't easily fixed. This says it all.

This is how it goes with .500 teams. They beat bad teams and lose to good teams. There are no surprises here. The Bills were in every game but one this year. They're just not good enough to close the deal against the better teams. Looks like 8-8, plus or minus one win, to me.

That's my favorite part of the scenario. Apparently, if the Jets were to cut Revis, we could sign him for the league minimum and the Jets would have to pay him the rest of the $6 million owed to him while he plays in a Bills uni. What an awesome possibility. I don't know if Revis would be a good safety but the cost of the experiment would not be high.

I like this thread. It's cool to see that Bills fans don't just live in Western New York. We're global. The other day, I was driving down a road in the state of Washington when the the guy in the car next to me started beeping his horn and yelling at me. I was thinking, "What's wrong with this lunatic?" But then he pulled in front of me and I saw the Bills stickers on the back of his car. He had noticed mine and was saying hello.

Thanks for your service! I lived in a tent in the Middle East when the Bills went to the first Super Bowl. No internet. No TV. Only shortwave radio. An army Specialist woke me up at some god awful hour to tell me he heard on the BBC that the Bills won the Super Bowl on a last minute field goal. After I quizzed him, he said there was a lot of static and it was possible he had heard wrong. After hours of frantic radio searching, I discovered the sad truth.

Silverdale, WA. Working on a retirement home in the southern Philippines. Used to live next door in San Ramon. I miss the Bay Area.

I heard second- and third- hand more than once that Flutie was a narcissistic, arrogant putz. Have no idea if that was really true. Personally, I just thought he was overrated. He would play like crap for three quarter but our great defense would keep us in the game. Then he'd score a TD in the 4th quarter and people talked about him like he was the miracle man. If he was just an average QB, we wouldn't have needed a 4th quarter score to win. Just look at his stats. He wasn't good. Though, admittedly, he could be exciting in the 4th quarter.

Not sure why you are confusing this conversation with facts, data, and common sense?

Valle, you really don't need to be part of this board if you're going to call people idiots for disagreeing with you. No matter what opinion you hold, or how valid it may seem to you, you'll find people here who vehemently disagree. Hopefully we can disagree with respect instead of name calling.

Being 57, I have a lot of favorites. But Kyle and Fred are my favorites of the past 10 years. Kyle isn't just a man on the field, but from all accounts, in the locker room too.

Exactly. Sometimes he's just too indecisive. Other times, though, he's buying time with his legs. What bugs me about this post is that most of us here on TBD were worried about RT long before the season began. Yet DW did nothing. I'm not a Doug basher and he's done good work acquiring Lorax, Z. Brown and others. But it's disappointing that he couldn't find us someone better than Mills for RT.

It was nice to watch TT have a good game especially under those conditions. The crowd was loud, the offensive line was having problems keeping him clean, and we weren't lining up our best WRs. And it was good to see Robert Woods have a good day. But these observations don't take the sting out of the loss. As much as a midseason game can be "must-win," this was a must-win game for us. 5-4 with a bye week to get healthy would have meant we were still realistically in the playoff hunt. This loss really hurts. I liked when Tyrod slammed his helmet at the end. Sometimes he seems like a passionless guy and I think players want a fiery QB-Leader. Of course, I would have rather seen him jump for joy because he'd just completed a TD throw. But I'm in the camp that this was a team loss. Even great QBs (and Tyrod is not a great QB) come up short at the end of games. Tyrod put up 25 points and led an offense that produced 400+ yards against a very stingy defense. He did his part. Others didn't.

Good post. There's no doubt that racism still exists in America in conscious and unconscious ways. But not every anti-black person statement by a white person is racist. I suspect Carp's wife would have posted the same remarks if the player who hit her husband - and then demonstrated such a nonchalant attitude about it - was white. It's reasonable to believe she's just mad her husband was hurt and his career threatened on a dirty play; and that race played no part in her tweet. She deserves the benefit of the doubt. The evolution of the word "thug" is interesting. Originally. "thugs" were members of a criminal organization in India. Members liked to win the confidence of travelers, join their caravans, then kill their target by strangulation in order to rob them. The word originally meant something like "deceiver." The term changed to describe a criminal with violent tendencies or anyone who likes to pose and posture as if the threat of violence is real. Now some are saying the term has racial overtones - and there is a real problem there - though many still use the term without any anti-black bias. Despite Sherman's Stanford education, I can see how someone would call him a thug in a colloquial way after watching that play. Given the recently-evolved racial bias of the term, I can see why others would object. I try not to use the word any more but don't damn those who do.