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or DienBienPhu?

Easy prediciction isn't it? If we argue the woman makes the choices it stands to reason I'd bring up cases where she doesn't. In MY religious world, rape or incest wouldn't even factor into the equation. Abortion would be a mortal sin regardless. In my political world I think it is the right of the woman to call the shots about her own body, within the well-reasoned parameters set forth in Roe v. Wade. And daddy doesn't have any particular legal right in the matter at all.

hey..I agree with you. We are in the early stages of World War III. I think we probably disagree on whose fault it is though.

I'm not surprised that you of all people would know that!

yeah..and Willis is number 60. Time to ratchet the team up a bit. Maybe a little smashmouth football would do the trick

I think this group has to actually win a game before we can say that they "forgot" how to win. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain:

I'm sure that GWB has done a miserable job and probably cost more American lives in unnecessary adventures (Iraq) than Osama Bin Laden. I'm sure he has screwed up the peace process even more than he screwed up the war process. I'm sure all hell is going to break loose if he wins the election. That being said, I'm not hearing much from Kerry. I expect to get a better sense of his plans for dealing with terrorism and Bush's mess in Iraq at the debate. I think if he wants to win this election he had better explain his position, his plans and his foreign policy verrrrrry specifically in this first debate. Otherwise he'll have the distinction of losing to the worst president in American history, and we'll be stuck with a war that will make Vietnam seem like the invasion of Grenada.

I'm still the greatest poster on the PPP board. I could work on humility though.

I think the issue of the thread was the father's "right" in the decision to abort (or, for that matter, to give birth.). The right to decide whether to give birth is still a right. Would it make a difference if the woman were raped, or was incapable of choice in an abortion situation? That is, the woman didn't participate in a "pattern of choices?" Assuming arguendo that in any case the fetus is a person the choices if any that the woman made would be irrelevant. I think as a legal matter the choice in any case is still that of the woman.

We haven't taken "decisive military action" since Bush declared "mission accomplished". Why would a "looming election" have anything to do with it? If Bush wins we will take "decisive military action" with a lot more unnecessary American Soldiers dead and wounded and nothing accomplished. But at least we can say we took "decisive military action". To what end we would have taken that action we can only guess.

There could even be a written contract. The court would certainly not grant what we call "specific performance" (making her go through with the birth.) The courts would probably reason that enforcing such a provision would be unconstitutional or even against public policy. Might the father get money damages? Much more complex question, although I doubt he would get even that.

Interesting idea. Of course taxing all transactions might have a negative effect on American Enterprise since we would be taxing transactions that add cost to the transactions. I want to buy jet aircraft from the USA company at x million dollars plus the tax of y. I can buy the jet aircraft from France at a price of merely x million dollars. I suppose it is worth looking at, as it puts a significant price tag on consumerism. I suspect that in the details we'd run across the same problems we have with the existing tax code. Pharmaceuticals become exempt, special interests corrupt pretty much whatever system we put in.

Not that I know of. Think of it though. If the father had a say in the abortion decision it would be a two way street. Can a father decide to have an abortion if the mother decides not to have one? Of course not. And he shouldn't. The mother has a right to her body, and a right to make bad choices with it. The state has some legal interest at a point. (Roe v. Wade). The father doesn't, at least not until the child's birth. How would you enforce a right given to the father? Imprison the mother and force her to go through childbirth? Frankly I'm from the school of thought that a person does in fact have a right over their own body.

Its nice to see an Iraqi "putting his life on the line" for the nation of Iraq. My problem is I can't see Americans "putting their life on the line" for same dam thing. In fact over 1000 of them put their lives over the line for this nonsense.

And hopefully we'll dump our oppressive regime again on November 2. Ain't America wonderful

yeah. Instead of Drew Bledsoe not being able to get the ball to Bobby Shaw he should be not getting the ball to Lee Evans. Memo to staff: If he's getting sacked it doesn't matter who the receivers are.

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Look..the bills LOST. We gotta accept that, get over it, and move on. You gotta decide about next week, not spend the time whining about last week. Win or lose we sucked, and we have to get a hell of a lot better in a very short period of time. Whining about refs is a sure sign that a team is a loser.

"special" as in special ed?

IF we win against New England (and judging from the last two games believing that might happen would be a magnificent leap of faith) the season starts anew. That would be a HUGE win. Add wins against Miami and the Jets and we are very very in the hunt in the first third of the season. We sucked the last two weeks everywhere except the defense. Offense (line, running, coaching) and special teams (penalty city). We would have to give ourselves a good talking to, develop a very good game plan, and execute it. Given Belicheck we should also be able to be flexible while following the game plan. This will be MM's test. I've had my doubts about him to date, but I'll keep my mind open and see what he does against New England.

Thought provoking post. The right wing whackos will probably hate it. OHHHHH...i just read their responses.

Coulda woulda shoulda...A little more smash Mr. Mularkey...a little less mouth.

This contractor stuff boggles my mind. The contractors are there because they WANT to be there. They have high paying contracts. They are told the risks before they go. A number of contractors have been killed in not very nice ways In case everyone forgets a number (1000 plus) Soldiers have been killed who are NOT highly paid. A number, over 7,000, American Soldiers have been gravely wounded in this useless war, who have not only not been well paid, but also are not receiving appropriate medical care. And you right wing whackos drone on and on about the poor contractors! Cut me a break!

eah AD...that thought crossed my mind as well! Particularly the "including you" part!

Let's see. It is easier to sneak across the Mexican Border than ever. Now who has been president the last three years? Ohhhhh. Well the governor of border states should share some responsibility. Who was governor of Texas before he was President? Oh. And Kerry and Edwards are being criticized for this? hmmmm.