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to be fair, you would expect a parrot to get approximately a 12.5 average if he took it a few times.
i mentioned this on the cj spiller thread, but anything single digit you have to seriously question whether or not the person is literate -- and i dont mean that in a mocking or funny way, but that its an actual issue that comes into play.
if he knew the answer to 4-5 questions and guessed the rest, you would be looking at mid teens rather consistently.
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If its a PROVEN NFL city why does san diego often not sell out its home games even though they are good year in and out?
because when you are good year in and year out people get bored until they think you are great. the bills started to have issues with this later in the superbowl runs if i recall correctly. teams fans see on the rise tends to create that buzz/frenzy to get tickets, and in a lot of ways, san diego stalled out for a lot of the last decade. they were good, but i think the public probably got conditioned to "whatever, they are going to go 14-2 and choke" which is a tough spot for ticket sales. until the superbowl is on the table for real, you arent going to get the sellout buzz back.
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Yeah, that would make more sense. On an average how long would most of that stuff stay in a persons system?
it all varies by test type, and drug.... for PEDs i am pretty sure you can cycle through them pretty quickly and test clean relatively easily if you know what your windows are. i dont want to quote time periods but my impression is you could bulk up pretty well and test clean if you know you are clear til september. i believe its a conversation of weeks, not months to get everything squared away. problem is if the cba works itself out quicker then expected and you are in he early batches or random testing.
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Taking this a bit personal?
you ask as if the fans here dont get just as worked up about the suggestion that buffalo moves.
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Now that their is no players union or CBA, the fact the players cannot be suspended or retro suspended for any personal conduct or substance abuse activity during this time. I wonder if this would make the players more likely (who want to gain or loss weight) to attempt to use these banned subtances? From what I understand the NFL can take no action towards anything a player does during a lockout. I don't know how that would playout if a players takes something now, the lockout ends in 3 months form now and the player has a postive test in say like september, and reports they took something during the lockout, so the conduct policy wouldn'y apply.
unfortunately for this last half of that theory, the positive test is the offense, not the act of smoking/injecting/snorting/injesting anything that would show up on a drug test.
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Maybin is a BUST.....and he will stay a bust.....he will NEVER be a starting defensive anything in the NFL.
so were not ruling out offensive success?!?!?! tight end it is
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i dont mean to rain on any parades, but as soon as that LA slot is filled Toronto is my bet for the next "hot city" to put a team. Switch out Buffalo and Toronto for San Diego and LA and the differences in your paragraph are marginal at best. Be careful what you argue today, it might come back to haunt you tomorrow.
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WHAT!?!?!?! 28" Waist!?!!? I'm no doctor but with how tall he is and a waist that small how did anyone expect him to bulk up? Myself included.
Is it me or did Maybin look the biggest he's ever been between college and the pros during the combine? I would guess they test the hell out of these guys but I wonder if there is a loop hole in the middle when you are no longer a college athlete and not yet a pro. Could he have been using enhancers?
there is a pretty significant gap between your last college test and first pro. even after the combine i dont think you are eligible to get tested for anything until after you sign. roughly the means from New years til August he was subject to one drug test at the combine and im not even 100% sure thats a PED test, or just a basic panel for illicit drugs. id assume it covers everything but im not claiming that knowledge
doesnt mean he was juicing but he bulked up real quick, and likewise it seemed to disappear pretty quick. it happens to a lot of prospects in the offseason/first season (get jacked in the gym in february and burn up a ton of mass during the season due to length and intensity), but his was fairly significant even considering that...
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Having lived here now for a bit over 3 years, LA is certainly great. It has a ton to offer, you just have to look for it. In NYC, everything is right there because in terms of mileage, the city is small (hell, it's an island). LA has a TON of great things, they're just really spread out so you have to really want to find them/go to them to appreciate all it has to offer.
Still, LA is pretty rad.
Agreed. I've only spent a handful of time but def enjoyed it.
And if anything it solidifies the point your making- as far as those attractions go, LA is a much closer comparable than buffalo. No harm meant to the comment, just a totally different type of place.
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Thats not the point at all. Not everyone equates "more things to do" with "place I'd prefer to live." Plenty of other factors go into the decision .... climate, schools, jobs, people, location, "liveability", proximity to family, etc etc.
Anyway, none of this has anything to with the mayor of one city trying to deflect from his serious problems at home by taking a cheap shot at another city. Thats the real point, so let's say hypothetically we agreed 100% of the people would choose to live in NY over Buffalo. That it's an irrefutable fact ... so what? Again, how does that get Bloomberg and his massive budget crisis off the hook? I dont see Buffalo laying off a proportional number of teachers. He could have said an almost limitless amount of "true" statements and it wouldn't excuse the situation in NYC.
It seems that you are so hurt and offended by the comment that you just aren't reading any of the replies tgregg and I wrote. As I've said before, you are arguing against something neither of us said, and I'm not quite sure why. I dont agree with your hypothetical that everyone wants to live there. I don't know if you missed my post about being quite happy where I live.
I even agreed that the context of the comment was silly to have made....
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I know there is some talk of a rival league stealing players but, seriously, it would have to get pretty bad for players to risk injury for chump change, which is what they would earn in the UFL or CFL. UDFA-types I can see, but if you are a sure NFL pick it's too big a gamble.
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Very true. The NFL has just outpaced pretty much any other... Well... Anything... When it comes to salary growth. By doing so they have created what amounts to a fiercely loyal pool of players (as ironic as that sounds given the current situation). You couldn't fill out a starting 22 in the cfl with paying guys the equivalent of the NFL league minimum - you'd be like 50% over the cap with just those 22.... Even though they are arguing over cash right now, the 10th draft pick will make a bigger signing bonus then entire team salaries in the cfl
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Pluck NY City.
<3 Davidson County!
And don't bother coming here if you don't speak english.
I'm in new orleans which marches to the beat of a pretty unique drum. It's a cool place to be and certainly a lifestyle I'd be hardpressed to find in NYC but I'm not kidding myself and saying there's more here. There's considerably less but what I have is different and works for me.
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There have been many Bills drafts that would have been better if they had followed that route.
Let's cut to the chase- we could've put the top 250 names in a hat and pulled one randomly and done better then a handful of our first rounders this last decade.
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Oh really ..... then what do you make of: "NYC is a mecca for culture, the arts, sports, night life. Very few cities in the history of mankind can compare to what NYC has to offer on a daily basis"
Again, not saying Buffalo has the same draw as NYC ... the huge population differential says it's not ... however not everyone given a choice would opt for NYC. Many many people leave NYC for more "liveable" cities all the time. I know a successful businessman in Buffalo for example, who does more work in NYC than Buffalo, but chooses to live in Buffalo and spend more commuting time as a result.
When you name a city that has more of those things, I'll listen. He's not saying everyone must choose to live NYC but that quite frankly on most measurable dimensions it is unmatched. It's not where I'd choose to start a farm either, but that doesn't mean that a farm town has more to offer. Nor does that insult a farmer. When it comes to arts, diversity, entertainment, opportunity.... Buffalo pales in comparison.
To be crude (and I'm sure you'll rip this), your kind of arguing a super model vs your average girl next door. Plenty of people are meant to be with girls next door, but to say she's winning the beauty contest is unlikely. There's nothing wrong with that, nor should there be. You find what makes you happy but if it's the things he listed- buffalo isn't the place for you really.
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March of the year after they were drafted.
Basically you have 11months to sign the player before they go back in the draft.
That's the crazy thing if there is no CBA the entire 2012 draft would be both class years.
Or the players that got drafted by the Steelers and Patriots could choose not to renter and wait for a CBA and the players that got drafted by the Bills and the Briwns can re-enter and see if they land in greener pastures.
Crazy
Some things to remember:
No 2012 draft without a CBA- I doubt a CBA would put everyone back in the draft
The 11 month rule isn't 11 calendar months, it's till the close of the league year I believe. Might be splitting hairs but big difference in perspective
The cfl has a salary cap of 4million for entire teams. They'd be hardpressed to target the last 15 players drafted, yet alone first 15. The economics of the NFL are just too different. This isn't the same game as the 80s.
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Just not true. A lot of people don't care for NYC. They think the people are cold, and the city is congested. Not saying that's true or not BUT you can't deny that a lot of people would choose a smaller "liveable" city like Buffalo over NYC. And heck if it's all that and more versus any other city on the planet, there's even less of an excuse for it to be in a budget crisis which requires gutting its teacher ranks.
Joe - no one is saying NYC is for everyone but to say Buffalo has more gravity if you will, is... probably not true. Buffalo offers some alternatives but not near the volume of opportunities, niches, etc... Different strokes for different folks and NYC isn't for everyone by any means but there are a lot more different strokes to be found in NYC and in general you really are fighting just to be argumentative.
You are arguing against a point no one is making.
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I always heard rumors that Cinci had a “skelton” scouting staff, which is believable considering they don’t even have an indoor practice facility. But the other day I heard on Mike and Mike that they actually don’t have a scouting staff. Thats right, no scouts - NONE. I don’t know how true this is or not, but I guess there is a chance lol. I am pretty sure that the two Brown boys (sons of the Owner) run the draft. Unfortunately they have had better drafts the last 5 years with no staff than our entire FO has had.
I've heard smallest by a wide margin. I don't believe none unless they just pull off kipers big board... But I suppose that would trump us.
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All you do is keep rehashing the way YOU evaluate a city. Here you have the mayor of a city that's letting go 1,000 teachers because it's in a budget crisis saying "our problems are a product of success" and "at least we're not Buffalo." Does that sound like a responsible mayor to you? Laying off 1,000 teachers from already over crowded classrooms a "sign of success?" I dont have the stats, but I bet Buffalo has a better student - teacher ratio. For a lot of people THAT DOES MATTER. Not you of course, but you don't speak for 100% of the people.
As best I can tell with a quick search, the ratios are pretty close with buffalo having a slight (I'm talking about like 1 less student per teacher) edge. The flip side, while kids in buffalo read about immigration NYC kids have close access to Ellis island. If you want to make the most of your opportunities, NYC has infinitely more on the table for you. It's not an opinion, it's just true. That isn't an insult, but I get that given the context his comment is insulting.
I'm not saying it's perfect, without flaw and everyone would always choose city life but to compare the two? Buffalo isn't winning many battles, yet alone the war.
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Perfect so far but I'll be surprised to carry these late games
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so kelly and marino have IQs around 95.
A standard deviation of iq is 10(?) points. So 90 would be the rough translation? Again, a guide not a rule... Depending on their prep and seriousness about the test, and some luck their "true scores" could be higher or lower. Just a single sampling doesn't tell everything
Shouldn't be any comparisons between them anyway. NOT the same player/leader. And the wonderlic
is pretty meaningless anyway. High scores don't mean a QB will be successful any more than a lower
score indicates that they won't be. Vince Young got a 9, has maturity issues, not a great leader and
STILL has a winning record as a starting QB in the NFL. Fitz scored 48 and doesn't have a winning
record as a starter on any team he's been on.
Chad Pennington scored 25? He was a finalist for the Rhodes Scholarship. Wonderlic is a bunch of
random information. Change the info and people who didn't do as well could do better or vice versa.
To say it's meaningless is as short sighted as saying it's an absolute 100% predictor. I'd go out on a limb and say there is some correlation just not a huge one, especially through the meaty part of the curve... I'd guess at the far ends it's a much stronger correlation but likely still not terribly significant.
No one is suggesting there's one obvious predictor, or else the draft would be reaallly easy
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And I believe that was actually before they changed to a 2 man wedge instead of a 4 man wedge. Since 09 when they changed the wedge rule I really haven't seen(or at least hear of) many injuries during the kickoff as a result of the wedge so I don't get what the big deal is over it.
Basically they are trying to make the kickoff worthless. Kicking from the 35 will make things more dangerous IMO. Pretty much every kicker in the league can kick the ball into the endzone; except Lindell.
To me this means that more kickers will be able to put more height on the ball and players can get downfield quicker. Without the wedge at all they will have 2-3 players with a full head of steam coming down field ready to pop a guy that has only 1 person within 2 yards to protect him.
I know the ball gets there much faster than the players but no wedge to me seems like they will have 1,2 or even 3 guys converging on one player within a 1/2 second and increasing the likelihood of an injury.
Just one mans opinion.
Couple this with no running start for the kick team and I see it turning towards punt return dynamics, but with a little more space
I've never seen a bomb kick get someone killed and they do exist now.
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Logically if there were MULTIPLE resets of a MAJOR standardized test, it would be pretty unusual for the Wonderlic to not undergo a scoring reset as well over the past 15 years.
Especially if low scorers can improve their scores so easily:
- Losman improved from 14 to 31
- Vince Young improved from 6 to 16
So I stand by my statements
- 21 is not that good of a score for Cam Newton, especially when he's projected as a top 5-10 pick. It's another Con which increases his risk. Especially with the 2nd tier prospects all hitting Home Runs with their scores.
- A wonderlic score of 20 isn't the same as a score of 20 fifteen years ago.
The fact that you can improve your score by actually learning strategy and such isn't a knock in the test, it's a knock on those guys for being unprepared/unfocused.
Also with a test that short, knowing 2-3 extra questions and getting 2-3 guesses can swing a score a lot as well.
The SAT reset was because the early 90s saw many underachieving schools implement the test as a benchmark, and it brought the average score down so they had to pull that 50th percentile back to 500. To my knowledge the wonderlic didn't see that influx. It's generally held it's demographics steady.
All that said, I'm basically saying unless you are an extreme outlier (say under 15ish or over 30/35ish, I don't think it says a lot. It's like a RB being clocked at 4.4 vs 4.45 - marginal difference even if it's not based on track conditions, slight misstep etc (lucky guesses or content) it's the 4.25 and 4.6 that really can help or hurt and likely say something at the next level.
Cams score doesn't put him in the wow factor either way. His "true" value could be high teens or mid 20s honestly, and much like the 40 not being football speed, this isn't football processing under a pass rush... Just part of the package to take into account.
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You do realize that around ~1994... to get an 800 on the math, you had to get 0-1 wrong.
After ~1994 you could get about 5-10 answers wrong (uncertain how many) but still get an 800.
To tie this back to football, I would be shocked if the Wonderlic didn't have similar inflation.
yes, there was a recentering to get the average score back to about 500. the wonderlic didnt have a similar recenter, although i suppose the difficulty may have changed to maintain the average. i havent heard that but its possible. i just dont think there was a sudden influx of low scores like the sats saw in the mid 90s. i think the demographics on the wonderlic have remained pretty consistent.
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I'm betting we pass. Just my opinion.
Maybe our standards are different, but with all that extra preparation and attention, I don't think 21 is a great score for a #3 overall pick QB.
I think Newton falls to 5-10 now.
And I don't think you can compare scores from Marino/Kelly's era... that was so long ago.
That's like comparing SAT scores from the 1990's to the inflated scores nowadays.
You do realize the "inflated scores" are because there's a third section and it's scored out of 2400 now right?
As for the wonderlic - 20 equates to 100iq which equates to average. 5 pts equate to about a standard deviation high or low. As you get away from the middle that's less of a hard rule.
Food for thought, Bradshaw is the only qb to score under a 24(?) and win the superbowl. Clearly not saying cam can't, just giving some wonderlic facts/trivia and perspective.
Gabbert dinner with Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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or they spent time with him at the combine, and plan on inviting him to carolina, so its not imperative to have everyone show up at every top prospects pro day. could be something, could be nothing.