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I don't think he looked a day over 90.
touche haha
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Now I am curious -- it sounds like the steelers will be suspending him -- IF that is true, the league stance is typically no further action. now IF that is true and IF he were traded, what would the league do? Do you think they would step in and suspend?
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Care to illustrate how exactly this is clear...? I haven't seen it, other than comments from posters on this board making stuff up.
I mean, i cant speak as to his mental health but the last couple times he has been in public he has looked poor physically. No i do not just mean cause he is old, but he has not looked in good shape even for his age, in my opinion
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Just say no to dog killers and rapists.
id go as far as to include people that kill or rape humans also....
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See, I would argue that we need a RT just as much as we need a LT so I'd be okay with that pick.
Im not advocating for a pick here, but with a left handed qb, that becomes the blindside for him....
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I don't look at it the same way. College football is very offense oriented - defenses for the most part are way behind (there are obvious exceptions like Alabama). There's a reason the spread works on Saturdays and not on Sundays.
Patriots and Saints are two teams that use a lot of spread principals in there offense.... they tend to be pretty good.
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Buffalo fans are insane. They love to B word about the few good players we have. Evans has probably dropped less than 10 passes in his entire career. We have crap on the oline. Our QBs are laughed at by the rest of the league. Yet, somehow the receiver who is off to the best start of any receiver in Bills' history (Andre and Moulds are no slouches) is the problem with this team. It's beyond dumb.
Evans on the Colts would be Marvin Harrison in his prime.
Agree 100% from what ive seen, which admittedly is less and less since moving away, then getting saints tix, games are getting harder and harder to see. Not to mention nationally buffalo doesnt get a lot of love.
Can anyone say on his opportunities over the middle what he has done? I remember seeing him take a slant last year in a way that impressed me, and stood out as something i hadnt seen from him. if sent more often do you think he could do this consistently, or is he getting sent occasionally and not getting space?
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Evans other than the ball washing he put on Losman has been pretty quiet. So no hate, but he is nothing better than a very good #2, speed guy. He has limited route running skills or at least shown limited. If he is capable he's never shown it, EVER.
As a receiver, has he lacked when sent over the middle, or is he just not asked to?
i guess its a question of whether the perception of him being poor at it is his fault or not. People at the games, camp, watched him in college etc... can probably tell better then me who only gets to see a handful of bills games a year these days.
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do you think it could be something along the lines that they are recognizing each other as the Jacob/MiB roles? that FLocke sees that Jack is already beginning to assume the role of Jacob? and seeing FLocke made Jack realize the same thing?
I think the scene with jack and sun on the beach was a strong indicator of jack assuming that role as well.....
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significant? des pushed a reset button for 3 years, the timelines are three years off??
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Do you realize how many people in football are from bad neighborhoods.
So how do you keep this in mind...are you saying don't offer contracts or draft people from inner city neighborhoods?
Hindsight is 20/20. Are you saying Lynch is a fair representation of everyone from inner city neighborhoods?
Keep in mind we drafted Poz and TE in the same draft. Would it be more fair to generalize that we had a bunch of fools manning the draft for us.
Yea that's totally what I said.... Oh... Wait.... Not really actually. I said you keep an eye on things like that. The fact that there have been so many major public incidents, maybe it's not a coincidence that he comes from a dangerous neighborhood. Maybe instead of being a guy that escapes the problems they grew up around, he's the type that brings them with him. It is something you have to be aware of. Are there many that escape? Yes. Do you want to be the team that invests a first on a marshawn, santonio, vick, pacman etc? No. You have to do really heavy research and sometimes make an educated guess based on risk v reward. Looking at the list of public offenses at the age of 24 -- I wouldn't give him an extension.
Driveby
accusations of hitting gf
hit and run
gun and drugs in the car
additionally, a host of minor problems in buffalo since arriving
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There were questions about most draft choices. Not necessarily character related but there were questions. What are you saying about Oakland??
Where did you grow up? Was it in a place that turns out nothing but great individuals?
Please share your Oakland experiences to help me understand why you want to trash the town.
Rick James came from Buffalo you know. Does that mean we are a town of excessive partying, music making people who are destined to overdose....
No but Oakland and the neighborhood lynch grew up in have a huuuge reputation for gang organization. This is definitely not the same as saying everyone in buffalo is like Rick James... Nor does it mean everyone is in gangs in Oakland. I would say that is something to keep in your head tho when investing millions in a guy from those neighborhood, and with the questionable decisions you've seen out of him.
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The reporter did exactly what he should. Imagine if during the Bills Coach search if people listed their sources. Did he burn a bridge with a source? Probably, but if more journalists reported the news instead of sucking up to sources then we'd have a much more reliable media.
It doesn't matter if every person in NO asks the question, that is what you do as a PR department. Could this reporter be part of the sensationalism of the situation? Sure. However, he asked a question, stated his reason and did not receive a response. He did his job and asked again. Politely.
The PR guy failed in his job. If this has such over coverage then it's likely it would have been another voice in the wind. Now it's a story that's a two page thread on a Buffalo Bills message board.
I agree, it was a knee jerk reaction that probably had more to do with some other reporters story. Who knows, maybe this reporter had other stories that upset bensel. Regardless, he went to far. To publish the emails is not just too far, Its the type of thing that can kill a relationship that is based on give and take. Sometimes you let something small like exact row numbers (which doesn't really matter) slide in return for priveledged access later....
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There wasn't daily coverage. It was *one* question. Singular. The guy didn't get an answer which sounds a lot like some of the people who have season tickets.
Yes this was one reporter asking, but the news here has been doing stories quite often. The people have even been given a name: the "missing 1200" or something like that. Its getting a little old honestly. WWL also has its website, and radio station running their own stories. This was not a one-time, 5 minute thing on the news, the stories have been running since the calls went out, starting out daily, now you still see them on and off through the week. Its beginning to be overkill -- the seats are not going to re-appear, so how many human interest pieces can be done on the subject? If they were trying to put together a simple factual report about what is happening, then his response would be total overkill, but they have been walking anyone they can find in front of the camera to cry about how the saints have forgotten about them, which is a little extreme too.
I think there have been a few alterations to the exact row numbers as the plan progresses, and this is likely part of why the saints want to handle the issue internally instead of making a mass announcement that it is rows x, y, and z -- In case you might have to slide forward or back a row based on construction needs. I believe that what happened with people finding out from the news before the saints was likely that information being leaked and reported before the saints had time to call people, hence some of the frustration you see on the message boards.
I understand why the displaced are upset, i would be too, but its the nature of the beast -- to keep the team, they had to agree to renovate the dome in a way that would bring a superbowl (among a host of other things). In one year more then 3000 seats will be added, and the displaced will be given first rights to those seats.
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Since when is sections and rows that are being removed from the stadium, that still have season ticket holders, a minute detail?
When every one of those people recieved a phone call from the saints. When the story broke weeks ago with those calls going out. It wouldve been easy to just answer the question but at the same time, anyone effected had been notified, for anyone outside those sections, the exact row number is a minute detail.
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Also of note-- not really buyers remorse -- shanny and bruce allen never signed off on haynesworth. its the cycle you get into switching coaches and schemes.
see buffalo switching to the 3-4 and the chance of schobel not fitting -- wouldnt be buyers remorse, just a poor fit in the new system.
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Agreed. If I was the Saints, I'd be doing the same thing.
It wasn't like the pertinent info about the construction wasn't available. It seems like the reporter was hounding the guy for minute details just to be a dick. Didn't he have any other stories to cover?
being in new orleans, and a season ticket holder -- WWL is the one that i feel is out of line here.
Its one thing to do a story, its another to parade a new member of the "missing 1200" on TV every night for 2 weeks. The thing is, the renovation was planned, it was relatively known what sections and rows would be effected (maybe not 100% but within a matter of a row or two) for years. Bensel could/should have toned it down a notch, but there is a reason he referred to it as a mini-series. When nothing is changing day to day, it doesnt need daily coverage. Regardless of if the reporter was offended YOU DONT PUBLISH THE EMAILS. He burned the bridge to try to get page views RIGHT NOW. He totally neglected the idea of building a long term relationship. If I had to worry about him doing a "gotcha" story every time he stumbled across a nugget, I wouldnt invite him in either. He has every right to be critical of the saints, but at the same time -- if you want to work hand in hand with the organization you have to show a certain level of respect too.
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Yeah I agree. It would make sense since it's a Desmond epidode. I think he is what links them being what his powers are.
Desmond is farradays constant with the time travel and stuff.... related perhaps?
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1st -- Dan Williams
2nd -- Gaither -- Bal
3rd -- mccluster
4th -- Campbell -- wash
front 7 and oline heavy the rest of the way
If something like this came with the top 4 picks I wouldn't be complaining
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Excellent point about accuracy. An excellent arm is a nice bonus, but what really counts is the ability to put the ball on target.
Regarding the leadership/maturity questions, multiple sources opine that these "maturity concerns" are really nothing more than "I don't like him because he played for Notre Dame and he kinda looks like a jerk, doesn't he?".
His teammates voted him captain, and they all swear by his leadership and work ethic. He led 4 game winning drives last season. That's enough for me to dismiss any unsubstantiated hokum from "draft experts" about maturity concerns.
I think it does speak volumes that people have come out on his behalf, and that he was voted a captain. On the flip side, a QB being voted captain happens on a pretty regular basis, regardless of character, ability, or anything beyond the title of starting qb. How many captains have started the season only to be benched half way through here in Buffalo the last couple years? I also love the fact that it seems he has a passion for the game even off the field. This could be the "everyone must have a weakness so this is what we are picking since we cant find it on the field."
I think throwing the questions out totally is a little extreme to the other side though. Thats why I framed it as leadership questions, not leadership issues.
The questions are out there, and I dont think we as fans will ever truly know one way or the other who he is in a locker room, a huddle, or sitting in a dorm room. Tate coming out helps his stock too -- gets his name into these articles as a kid who is willing to battle for his QB. Mays coming out could be traced back to the agent. Am I saying either one is lying? Not at all, but in being critical of the statements, you have to look at if there could be motivation to say what they are beyond the goodness of their hearts.
What I can say is that based on his play, I am confident that he will be able to put the ball where he wants it, and based on his work ethic he will learn where it needs to be at the next level. Whether or not his teammates will like him will have a lot to do with things I will never be able to see personally. On field success goes a long way to respect though, even if it turns out he is a jerk.
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#1- kelly is a paid "ambassador" of the bills......his job is to smooze.
#2- kelly said he "liked" Tebow....who doesn't ?? (most think he's worth at least a 3rd rounder or better)
#3- kelly made it perfectly clear that he was not qualified to put a "grade" , draft round recommendation or a comparison to other players at other positions.
I agree with all of this -- its a fine line to walk though. I think sometimes he has stumbled over it a little bit. Example being calling out Trent in his original call for tebow. Whether or not you agree with him, I dont think its his place.... I do think hes earned a couple free passes, and a slip up here and there isnt a huge deal, as long as it isnt a major offense. I also appreciate that he came back to the comments, and toned them down some, admitting he isnt a scout, he just likes the guy based on what he does know.
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Agree.
My three "take a flyer" candidates are Zac Robinson, Perriloux, and Brian Babin.
pleeeeease stay away from perriloux! theres a reason he got kicked off LSU -- high talent guys get there problems covered up/fixed in a place like baton rouge. it speaks volumes that he couldnt stick with the team, both in his on-field and off-field issues.
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said it before, say it again:
If he's there I believe he'll be the Bills pick.
If he's gone I hope that the Bills do not pick a QB until we get to the 'take a flyer' rounds.
Hes growing on me. You cant help but be concerned about the leadership/maturity questions, but its hard to judge whats real in the locker room as a fan. What you can say is accuracy running a pro style offense will almost no doubt transfer over. For all the talk of arm strength I think that accuracy is often overlooked. Its nice to throw a ball a mile but being able to anticipate a receivers route and place the ball exactly where you want it is crucial at the NFL level. The windows get much tighter, and if you cant fit passes in at a college level, why would you think it would work against pros.
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If you look at the trending in weight it has been consistently downward, with some hiccups. If it continues to be 3 steps forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 1 step back, im not nearly as concerned as if he starts putting on major weight.
also -- cody put up 485 on the bench at bama -- if i remember correctly.
heres a link to an article, some worries me, some gives a lot of confidence.... ill pull a few quotes. Its from before he even got to bama. I think I would be more concerned about his shy/homesick factor then his weight issues. I think if the weight does become an issue it will be from a depression standpoint, not a "i signed my check now lets eat up" source. It seems he has a lot of growing to do as a man, but it also seems like he has a pretty good head on his shoulders to start out. I think after dad died, and mom was supporting a large family (dont quote me but i think its like 6-7 siblings), i think it is easy to find yourself slacking on school, not taking care of his body -- i also think its very impressive for him to realize his opportunities and get eligible academically, and come so far physically to be healthy enough to play.
http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=806609
When MGCCC's players maxed out in the weight room in the spring of 2007, Cody put up 400 on the bench press, but couldn't max out on the squat rack. He handled 660 pounds with little trouble, but the Bulldogs coaching staff wasn't comfortable with the degree to which the bar would bend if Cody had tried a 700-pound squat.
But while MGCCC coaches saw plenty of potential in Cody, their initial expectations were very reserved.
"First day of practice, we didn't expect him to make it through the first five minutes," said Campbell. "We're sure he's going to be cramped up under the tent with all the rest of them that are too heavy. You figure anyone that big has their problems - high blood pressure, dehydration, hurt all the time, can't move - whatever. Well, in two years here, he never missed one period of practice. Never cramped or dehydrated once."
Cody was never eligible for the Pop Warner youth leagues in Ft. Myers because he was always over the weight limit. So when he first arrived at Riverdale as a freshman in the fall of 2002, he was 6-4, 285 pounds, but didn't even know what it felt like to strap a helmet on. By the end of that season, he had been promoted to Riverdale's varsity squad and was already dominating. Classroom struggles, however, nearly sank his football career before it ever launched. He was academically ineligible as a sophomore and again as a junior, a by-product of, in his words, "running with the wrong crowd." It was little wonder, then, that college recruiters had never heard of Terrence Cody when he was a senior, and Jones had to sell MGCCC on him just to open one last door for his career. Not much, apparently, has ever come easy. "His dad died when he was 11, and he had some weird things going on at home, and ended up being taken in by another family," Jones said. Jones personally tutored Cody back to eligibility for his senior season at Riverdale, and two years of rust came off quickly.
Details of statement against Big Ben are released.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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See here's the thing -- what you just described is Ben being at fault. He bought a round of shots and had them take one. Fakes don't mean anything at a bar. Think twice before you bring that girl home, if she's 17, but in a 21+ bar with a fake you are still going to jail. It's not a valid defense to anything.