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Rumor week 4 Bills at Falcons

Such a strange choice. MSG doesn't have any live streams available so all of us at work have no choice and no chance to watch/listen to it.

I don't get how it isn't even available through the Bills site.

I'm out of the area and rely on streaming. WGR is terrible all around for a local radio station but to not even cover this? I really don't get it. Then add on the Bills official website doesn't have the stream either. I just want to listen while I'm working and now I'm spenidng way too much time trying to find it lol

aaaaaaaaannnnndddd they aren't even covering it. Nice for the flagship... Anywhere I can find this stream?

WGR at commercial... nice Is it being broadcast on MSG too?

So ummm where is this? I'm listening to wgr and it isn't on

Astro thanks for this it is certainly worth paying attention to. On an aside I figure your a good person to let know... On drafttek the s/r for Corey Davis links to Solomon Thomas. I didn't see anywhere to report it (didn't look to hard lol) but figure you might be able to rectify it.

No I think everyone just wants to make sure it is over in time to be back on their couches by 4:20

More dysfunction at 1 bills drive.

Hey BBMBer. You know how some people complain about you guys? This is why... No McCaffery should not be an option at 10 to entertain your post...

I spent about 10 years working with children in psychiatric hospital. People motivated to kill themselves will be successful if given the opportunity. An investigation should be conducted as there was a death but I wouldn't leap to any conclusions other than he was staring life in prison in the face and decided not to continue on. A permanent solution to a permanent problem if you will. The timing isn't suspicious to me at all. If anything this wouldn't be a stretch where he was happy he beat the double murder rap then realized it didn't mean anything and he still would be in prison for the rest of his life. That low is something I could see being a low enough to kill himself. I have a friend who killed himself because a girl broke up with him and another because of money troubles. The reason doesn't have to be good enough to you or me just the person who commits the act. Right where I am at It isn't hard to hang yourself from anywhere that will obstruct your breathing. I walked in on a kid who was in the middle of attempting to hang himself and had rigged sheets up to his dresser and then he just kind of sat down. Your second post assumes that the person wants to live. My original post touched on this. People who want to kill themselves will find a way. The above mentioned kid was eerily peaceful as he hung before I grabbed him. It is something that still sticks with me today.

Nope don't have to apologize for the WR unless you spent as much time whining about it as you have QB. What you have stated over and over and over and over (is that enough) is that the Bills have failed because they haven't tried. They have tried it just hasn't gotten the results. The thing is there are only 2 players you could even call misses in his time span and even they are fully proven yet. The other issue you beat is the Bills have to take a QB this year. You seem to think that just picking one and hoping it works is the best strategy. That is why I brought up all of the failures. I get it. You love Mahomes and anyone but TT. That doesn't mean that magically the QB you draft will be any good. It doesn't matter what your screen name says. The Bills have clearly done their diligence on this class and that is all we as fans can ask. Past that you wait and see if their valuations are correct. I don't doubt he had a say in the pick. The situation was unique in that it was probably the worst QB draft class ever and Buddy got taped on the phone so Fitz was no longer an option. The Bills HAD to take a QB. During the draft process everyone loved the way EJ carried himself. So they took their shot on the high character guy and missed. However people can't say Whaley hasn't tried to get a franchise qb or that the Bills should take their shot regardless of the result. Those 2 narratives don't fit with each other with regards to the EJ pick. You can push one or the other but there are posters (hint see the first quoted post) that try to push both to knock Whaley.

This post is about Whaley not the Bills. You also can't just bemoan the hits without also taking into account the misses. You whine and cry about Carr but don't talk about the 3 guys taken above him that were wastes of a 1st rounder. Whaley has done quite a bit to try and address the QB position. He has brought in countless FA (off the top of my head TT, Leinhart, Kolb, etc..) made trades (Thad, Cassel,etc..), had a first rounder on the team, and drafted a guy last year. Whaley himself hasn't failed for lack of trying at the QB position. He has failed because they aren't there. My god when will you stop crying...

What that post shows is there weren't guys available to the Bills when they drafted that turned out to be franchise guys. Maybe 2. Dak is a wait and see as well. The lack of QBs isn't a Bills specific issue it is a league wide issue save for a couple of teams. I know you are QB or bust guy but just because you are in love with a couple of guys doesn't mean they will be franchise guys. Drafting guys you don't think can be "the guy" is just as dumb of a strategy as purposely ignoring the position. You can't even say the Bills haven't done their homework this class or last as they had multiple guys in and meetings with all of the top guys. What will your excuse be when these guys come in and go Jared Goff, Paxton Lynch, Ej Manuel, Manziel, Bortles, or Bridgewater on the league? All of them were 1st round picks and haven't done jack. I agree wholeheartedly. None have proven to be a franchise guy but Carr and Dak have shown the most. That is why I used quotes around "franchise". So even being generous there are only 2 guys fans could bemoan. There are a whole bunch of misses though...

"Franchise" QBs since 2013: 2013: None 2014: Derek Carr Round 2 pick 4. Bills picked Sammy at 4 and didn't pick until 41. Maybe in a trade down Carr is possible. 2015: Jameis and Mariota went 1&2. Bills had no chance at either of these guys 2016: Dak in the 4th and Maybe Wentz in the first. No chance at Wentz and Dak went to a perfect situation. So in conclusion Whaley missed on Carr and maybe Dak. It isn't as easy as just identifying you need one and getting one. There has to be one available to you.

I know everyone wants to jump on the hate Whaley train but this article is terrible. It is a year to year ranking which is important to keep in mind. Here are some gems: Ozzie Newsome at 5. Ozzie has a reputation as one of the best GMs in the game and deservedly so. However the team no longer has Ray Lewis and they have made the playoffs once in the last 4 years. The last 2 years they have gone 8-8 and 5-11. Dave Gettleman at 8. He actually moved up from 7. In a year where they went from SB runner up to 6-10 and had the Josh Norman screw up. Rick SMith at 9. The same Rick Smith who threw 72 million at Brock Osweiller without ever meeting him and then traded him AND a 2nd a year later to get rid of his mistake. Stephen Jones at 10. This is one where he has them ranked too low imo. I would put him over the above 3 at least. Kevin Colbert at 13 with this writeup: "At some point, Colbert is going to need one of his Cameron Heyward/Jarvis Jones/Ryan Shazier/Bud Duprees to actually be a star." Jarvis Jones no longer plays for the Steelers Jon Robinson at 20. Criminally low for the work he has done with the Titans imo. And on and on... There are reasons to not like Whaley but if you already held that belief this article shouldn't be used as ammunition to prove your point...

With Tolbert to handle the short yardage runs, Williams to spell McCoy, and DiMarco leading the way I don't really see RB as a weakness. If anything I think the signings early in FA were to prepare for this scenario.

talk is that this is clearing the way for him to be traded to the saints for the 32nd pick.

There has to be a story here...

The Hamstring issue scares me. Generally they are followed by Achilles or lower leg injuries in the following years. I hope he can be healthy but that is a huge red flag for me.

I agree and I see it as a need and one of the 6 needs. I trust Whaley more at that position than others to find a guy either with a mid/late round pick or FA signing on the cheap. I just think the holes in the secondary are a bigger need and detriment to possible success. Rex really did do a number on this team. QB certainly hides flaws but these guys (imo) will need to be hidden for the first year at least if not longer. I'm not in love with any of them as the savior although I like Watson the best of the group. I think your first 3 picks make sense even if it isn't best case scenario to draft for need. This year need and talent line up pretty well though.

You mean the Lakers lol I love Magic. He is the reason for me being a Laker fan. The last few years have been ugly and I don't know if Jeannie is any better than Jimmy when it comes to running a team. I am very encouraged by Pelinka and I love Walton as the coach. They need a star though and it isn't the attractive place it once was. The new NBA lets guys create super teams wherever they want. Golden State and Cleveland are the class of the NBA. That would have been laughable in the 90s. Outside of Run TMC and a few years of Price/Nance/Ehlo neither of those teams were competing for titles and even those groupings were good in conference but not good enough to actually win. LA isn't necessary to become a star with social media and I think that is what they are having the hardest time with when it comes to their sales pitches. Everyone used to want to go to Hollywood. Now Hollywood is in everyone's pocket with Twitter, Instagram ,etc...

Yeah and I'm not convinced PG is that guy. I like what Ainge and Stevens are doing. I would love for a return of Lakers C's but the Buss kids aren't Dr. Buss and they keep proving that over and over...

I thought who the hell is Parker? No worries. I appreciate the write up. I almost forgot about Ragland. Now that the year of waiting is over it is indeed like an extra pick. I hope he is as good as the camp reports last year.