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48 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
Reid and others have been to and won many SB’s. McD was basically excusing the inability to sniff one.
No he didn't. First you are way overestimating how many coaches have won the sb and are still coaching. Here is what mcd said.
“I think like anything, when you talk about the Bills, whether it’s Josh (Allen), myself, our team, we’ve had so much success,” he said. “What’s left for Josh and for all of us is to take that one more step that we need to take.”
Saying he isn't as good of a coach as Reid is silly. Reid might go down as one of the top 10 coaches of all time. Is that really the bar?
You have reid and mcvay who have won a super bowl in the last 5 years. So by the bar set by many every single coach in the nfl should be fired. I posted elsewhere but Harbaugh has a 2 time mvp qb and hasnt had anywhere near the success since he won a sb 10+ years ago.
McDermott is a top 5 coach in the nfl right now period. 5 playoff wins since 2018 is tied for 2nd best in the afc and 5th in the nfl. If you go to 2020 when Josh became Josh it is tied for 3rd.
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Andy Reid interviewed today said its hard to win and then repeated it. Literally today....
@Ethan in Cleveland is he feeling the heat too? I feel like every coach says it.
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Was trying to find some stats regarding separation and stumbled on Hayden Hatten from Idaho projected in 7th or udfa. Any of the resident draftniks watched him?
Stats wise he was uber productive over 2 years albeit against fcs competition. Played outside more than 66% of the time and has some good size at 6'2 215 (not combine so maybe inflated).
Seems like a decent guy to throw one of those late picks at.
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Normally I am all about trading down and accruing more capital. This year I thought when they got a 4th instead of a 3rd that I would certainly again love the idea.
The reality though is it gets a little dangerous. The first real trade partner that could give a 3rd back would be Wash at 36 and the pick would be #100. That puts Baltimore, KC, Carolina, and NE/Arizona (depending on who picks MHJ) that could potentially all draft a wr. Missing out on guys just for pick 100 doesn't seem worth it. Moving back to 40 with Wash means also getting 78 but giving up a 5th rounder (no big deal) but also adding the Chargers and Tenn who could also grab a wr.
Basically the cupboard could go from full to bare real quick.
I think the best option is to hang tight and grab their favorite WR at 28. Although I think they are eyeing Coleman as he is a Kelvin Benjamin comp and I just have that feeling. I prefer others but am bracing for it lol.
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I think blake corum will be a productive nfl back. He is one of those guys that just has a great feel for openings and running lanes.
In fact I think a lot of the michigan guys are being underrated this year.
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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
could we be the dark horse team?I really hope not for Ridley and I've feared this move since he torched us. I don't think he is a culture fit though. He was suspended for gambling while he was on a personal leave for the some mental health issues. He will be 29 and disappears for long stretches and has issues with drops. We could have just kept Gabe if we wanted that.
He had 9 games of 40 or less yards receiving. He had 4 100 yard games and they were 101, 103, 106, and 122 (the game against the Bills where we had to play Elam on a bum wheel).
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35 minutes ago, Logic said:
Nice.
People often have unrealistic expectations of what a backup QB should be.
In this day and age, where teams usually only have two QBs on the 53-man roster, the whole "draft a 7th rounder and develop him behind your starter" doesn't necessarily work. It was a fine thing to do back when teams rostered three QBs. The backup was the trusty vet that could play in a pinch, the third stringer was the developmental project.
But nowadays? You need a guy that can get you through two quarters or two weeks if your QB gets banged up.
Trubisky is better than many backup QBs in the league, and also worse than a few of them. He's certainly closer to the top of the list than the bottom. Already knows our system, our coaches, our locker room, and has a friendship with Josh.
Good signing. Not everything needs to be advanced calculous.He was 0-4 as a starter last year. In those 4 games had 4 tds and 5 ints and threw for an average of 153 ypg at 6.1 ypa. None of those numbers inspire confidence that he can get us through 2 quarters or 2 weeks.
I agree he knows our locker room in a physical sense but how many players are left from 2 years ago when he was here?
I disagree he knows our coaches or our system. We have already hired and fired a coordinator since he left. How many coaches are even left from dabolls staff when he was here?
I watched him last year and he was not good at all. This and the haack signing are headscratchers and hopefully just place holders in case the positions can't be improved in the draft or late fa.
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4 minutes ago, stinky finger said:
Come on. If Josh goes down, all bets are off. Of course MT isn't the answer.
What round are you willing to draft a QB?
MT not being the answer is exactly why i dislike this move so much. He offers nothing. At least a young qb has the chance to catch lightning in a bottle. I'm in the camp of drafting a qb every couple of years late though like the packers used to do.
As for what round, it would depend on who is available and when. Probably one of the many 6ths they have though lol.
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15 minutes ago, stinky finger said:
Draft a guy and hope he - what?
Not sure what isn't clear. Draft a guy and hope he turns into either a high quality back up or a tradeable asset.
Trubisky is not good imo and is a pointless addition to the roster. I don't understand the point of him. He can't keep the team afloat if needed to do so. Thats the only reason to have a vet backup qb.
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I really hope not. Draft a guy. At least then there is hope he could be something. Trubisky is a known entity at this point. If the Bills needed to start him they wont be competitive why waste cap space and a roster spot on a guy like that?
This is a guy that couldnt beat out kenny pickett or mason rudolph.
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8 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
Would you feel good if our first round pick matches Bobo’s 196 yards as a rookie?
Wicks was solid as the #3 in GB this year.
Bobo was a udfa and wicks was a 5th rounder. I was just mentioning guys that showed something in year 1.
It will be interesting as more data points get added to your metrcis system if it holds. Its certainly off to a good start.
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21 hours ago, DCOrange said:
I'm sure a few WRs will slip through the cracks; I'm really just doing the metrics thing for fun. As I mentioned, Zay Flowers for example was relatively low when I applied the same system to the 2023 class. Having said that, Mitchell came out with a score of -4.98, 115th out of 129. WRs that ranked 100th or worse from the prior two classes:
- Kayshon Boutte
- Tyler Scott
- Isaiah Weston
- Grant Dubose
- Bryce Ford-Wheaton
- Charlie Jones
- Dontayvion Wicks
- Tyquan Thornton
- Johnny Johnson III
- Makai Polk
- Tanner Conner
- Antoine Green
- Justin Shorter
- Jake Bobo
- Jalen Wayne
- Ty Fryfogle
- Slade Bolden
- Braylon Sanders
Jayden Reed is the lowest rated in my database that has shown he might be good; he was 86th. Perhaps Mitchell will be the outlier from that group.
Worthy isn't too bad on the metrics; roughly in the top third of the group over the last three years.
I think dontayvion wicks showed well this year.
Jake bobo also got a lot of good press in seattle.
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1 minute ago, boyst said:
Brees has a very pass friendly offense on a team that put almost all of their efforts into offense. Great WRs, good TEs, and useful RBs. That helped a lot.
Where is testeverde on your list?
Firmly behind Rich gannon and all those guys we both listed. I never thought Testaverde was very good. He's way down my list. We haven't even mentioned kelly Moon Cunningham and Im sure more.
Now that we've been talking about it, I think it would be interesting to try and put together my top 20....
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31 minutes ago, boyst said:
Listen, I am going to question this but I'm open to it haha...
So Brees played in the era of Roethlisberger, Eli, Matt Ryan, Farve, Rodgers, Warner, McNabb, McNair... And he was better than all of them? On merit of statistics I think he beats all of them. I am looking at the bigger picture, I guess.
That's a lot of super bowls on the list I gave and very good teams. In a vacuum where we just look at how a QB adds to his team - did he do more than those QB's above?
I mentioned Favre and Rodgers as higher than him in the original.
Matt Ryan and Mcnabb are multiple tiers below him. I don't think it is even a discussion.
Warner was good but did not have close to production or longevity of Brees. McNair again didn't have longevity or production and also didn't have the success of Brees.
Eli is definitely not close to Brees for me either. He had 2 great playoff runs but if his last name isn't Manning his reputation isn't nearly as good.
Roethlisberger is admittedly a tougher case and imo the best on your list that I hadn't already included. I still think Brees was slightly ahead of him like Rodgers is slightly ahead of Brees.
Some of Brees' stats are dumb.
He is the only qb with multiple 5k seasons and he has 5! Of them.
12 straight 4k seasons.
123 300 yard passing games which is 47 more than the next closest guy on your list above.
2 most tds of anyone in history at least 150 more than anyone not named Favre or Rodgers (who we both mentioned).
Just video game numbers.
7 minutes ago, boyst said:This is where I struggle. Tarkenton is my go to. I never saw him play beyond highlights and lore. He was a very good QB that made the HOF but I could not consider him better than Favre, Brees, Rodgers, etc because on paper how can I compare someone i never saw in a game 50 years ago to a game I barely remember in the late 80s and Steve Young.
It just opens a can of beans for the whole thing.
Brees 100% is among the best 20 QBs in the modern 25 year era. Beyond that it's too much debate and effort to say who is where beyond the Montana, Manning, Brady debate.
Fair enough. I went back 37 years (as long as ive watched) and I have him at 7th. Although Young is a guy I had forgotten about. Not sure where I have him.
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4 minutes ago, boyst said:
Am I that wrong to think brees is not inside the top 20? @NoSaint has tried to talk me otherwise for a long time. I just don't see him surviving in the NFL 30 years ago or more when it was much more physical. He would be a step down from Marino or Theisman.
I dont think it matters if he could survive 30 years ago. I think about how good he was against his peers. He was right behind manning and brady and those guys 2 of the best I have ever seen.
I wont go pre 87 and I was too young but ive got Brady Montana Manning Favre Marino and Mahomes as better than Brees. I have him and Rodgers about the same probably give the edge to Rodgers. I cant imagine there are 4 other guys let alone 14 from the older eras (before passing was such a big part of the game) I would take over Brees. Im interested to hear your list though as I might have forgotten a few guys.
I might personally overrate him but he was just so amazingly accurate and productive for such a long time. Some of his deep balls were like handoffs.
He definitely benefited from the dome and the rule changes I will certainly give you that but I still have him in my top 10.
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3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I mean some of this is just crazy 😂😂😂. Payton won a Super Bowl and was THE WORST CALL OF ALL-TIME from a 2nd. Tomlin has 1. Pederson has 1. Stefanski and Bowles have both succeeded with lesser QBs. Again, you’re trying to say that McDermott > Payton, Tomlin, Harbaugh. 😂😂 Give Tomlin Josh Allen and he wins 2.
I don't think it's crazy at all Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in FOREVER. Including some years with big ben.
Harbaugh has had the 1 seed twice and made the championship game once. He has a bad playoff record with a 2 time league mvp.
Payton has 3 straight 7-9 seasons with a top 10 all time qb and won exactly 1 sb with that guy. Love Josh Allen but he hasn't accomplished what Brees did. Yet.
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4 minutes ago, BananaB said:
Well atleast he ain’t a defensive guru giving up 30+ points in playoffs games.
No hes an offensive genius who's team scored leaa against kc than buffalo did....
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8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
The MOST I can see Beane trading up would be 4 spots up to the Dallas pick at #24. It would have to be someone he REALLY wanted.
Dallas isn't picking a WR.
Green Bay has a ton of picks, so they won't be trading down from #25. If anything, they may trade up.
If it looked like Arizona at #27 wanted a WR (which they need right now before FA) Beane might try to trade with Tampa Bay at #26.
It would cost him his 4th (#129).
Beane has 2-5ths and 3-6ths. He could then try to get back into the 4th with bundling some of those picks.
Just thinking out loud.
Arizona is taking marvin harrison jr at 4 barring something crazy. Depending on what happens with higgins i can see 18 being the last wr taken before the Bills pick. It's going to be an interesting game of chicken between buffalo and kc as I think they will both be targeting a wr.
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A couple of things....
The Bills in the grouping you gave don't really have a sam lb in that alignment.
Taron is so critical bc he isn't your typical slot cb. He is a hitter and operates as an lb sometimes and covers tes. He allows a certain amount of flexibility that many players dont.
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3 hours ago, DCOrange said:
Yeah, there's definitely a bit of that that you have to keep an eye on with these things. I think the first one at least is just good WR; really strong stutter step and explosion there to freeze the corner and leave him behind. The second one was maybe bad CB.
Bummer. Was really enjoying watching Pearsall and Wilson this week.
Did they say why for any of these guys?
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11 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Is this really what people are so upset/obsessed with?
My theory on why people get so upset:
They only really show her when kelce and ergo the chiefs have something good happen. Which means in turn, the team they are rooting for had something bad happen. It's a negative association for people when she pops on the screen.
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24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Exactly.
If McD had just won the Super Bowl in 2021 like we were supposed to, I'd have no problem with him hanging on for 15-20 more years of division champs/playoffs without another ring.
But instead, it was a direct coaching error that botched the entire thing and seems like blew our best shot of ever getting there.
So yeah, perspectives on Harbaugh vs McD are a little different.
The Bills lost to the chiefs who lost to the bengals who lost to the rams. It's so silly that people think the Bills were guaranteed the super bowl there.
17 minutes ago, Augie said:Why are the Chiefs an elite opponent when they beat the #1 seed Ravens, but a team we should have beaten hands down. You can’t have it both ways. The Chiefs are the real deal, and we lost a close game. Hopefully next year it’s our turn to start ruling the AFC.
Thank you! Reid is one of the greatest coaches of all time and mahomes is one of the greatest qbs of all time but only when other teams lose to them.
9 minutes ago, DCofNC said:
If you are questioning the coach who has made it further than McD has in his tenure with a far superior QB, then McD needs to be fired because his leash is run out. You just beat yourself with your own argument.Quite the opposite. I actually don't think Harbaugh should be fired. I also don't think McD should be fired.
The entire point of this post is the double standard the fire mcd crowd have for other coaches.
People want to pretend winning 1 sb no matter how long ago would be okay but I don't think that's true. Harbaugh has a long streak of not being nearly as succesful as McD.
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7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
In three playoff games against the Chiefs we have given up 7.4 YPP, 7.6 YPP, and now 8.5 YPP. In those years the Chiefs offense averaged 6.3 YPP, 5.9 YPP, and 5.5 YPP, which means each of those results was well below expectations.
So it is not just a problem from this year, and I'm actually kind of sick of people using injuries from this year to hand wave away multiple abysmal playoff performances from our defense under McDermott. McDermott has never found a way to even slow down the Chiefs when it counts.
I don't agree with your statement that McDermott has out performed Harbaugh in the playoffs. I believe Josh Allen has vastly out performed Jackson (and Huntley) in the playoffs. I believe that Harbaugh in his first shot at the Chiefs in the playoffs did a substantially better job than McDermott has ever done against the Chiefs in the playoffs.
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen have now reached the AFCCG the same number of times since entering the league together in 2018. Considering the wide gap between them as players, it is sensible to think that a gap between the head coaches is probably at least somewhat to blame for that result.
Its inarguable that the Bills have had better results and gone further than the Ravens.
Lamar Jackson has won 2 mvps to joshs none. Do we really think lamar just forgets how to play football in the playoffs? Is the coach not responsible for setting him up to be succesful?
You are so focused on the qb you arent looking at the rest of the team. The Ravens had 3 first team all pros this year the Bills had none.
The Ravens had a better team than the Bills this year and they lost to the chiefs just the same.
The last time the Ravens had a better team than the Bills they lost their first playoff game 28-12 as the one seed to ryan tannehill!
The Ravens had the most rushing yards in the league and 3rd most by ypc. Then they ran the ball 6 times with their rb! Isnt that on coaching?
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9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
I've been checking in on some of those big time NFL talking heads and they seem awfully quiet about how poorly Jackson played today. Did you know the Ravens lost because of penalties & a fumble into the end zone. I can only imagine these same talking heads reactions if Allen played a game like the one Jackson did today. Wait, I don't need an imagination here. After last weeks game where Allen had 3 TD's and no TO's and played pretty damn well all I heard these people say is how Allen can't win the big games or beat Mahomes. It's amazing the difference in tone from these "experts" between this week and last.
Here's the bottom line Allen is 5 - 5 with a defense that isn't even close to being as good as the Ravens has been. Allen has 27 total TD's and only 6 TO's and has played great in half his playoff games. Jackson is 2 - 4 with 9 total TD's and 9 TO's.
Allen's worst playoff game is better then Jackson's play in 5 of his 6 playoff games.
Jackson is gonna take a ton of heat for this one. Deservedly so. However the strength of the ravens is running and the weakness of the chiefs is run defense. The gameplan did not help lamar at all today.
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I'm in and down to help out. Tomorrow is a busy day at work but I should be able to put something together Wednesday to help this flow.