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McCargo never did anything good so I'm not sure what convinced you that DT wasn't a need with or without Stroud. The thing about OL is that most of the time, you cannot get one in free agency. There have been exceptions (Faneca, Stienbach) but they are rare. As far as left tackles go, you really almost never see a really good one lost in free agency or traded (unleess of course you are the Bills).
The McKelvin selection was symbolic of everything that is wrong with ths franchise. For years we draft 1st round dbs, lose the good ones, and replace them with other 1st round dbs. This, as you can see, is a proven, can't miss method to lose.
When you have a quarterback and your OL and front 7 are solid, then it's time to go for a db. Levy/Jauron do the opposite and this is why we have a bad team. When you have blockers such as Duke Preston and Melvin Fowler, you simply cannot pass up a Nick Mangold to draft Donte Whitner. Jauron didn't want Branden Albert; he wanted Leodis McKelvin.
When a team makes stupid moves like this, they will simply lose. It really is that simple.
The point Bandit stated wasnt that there wasnt a need at OL, or that there wasnt a need at a compitent coaching staff, scouting staff, ownership.
Its already known that its a dumb move to continuously not sign your quality players regardless of any position. You can look at the following to know that:
Williams
Washington
Clements
Fletcher
Winfield
Greer
Peters
At the time the Bills were looking at something they were strong at and continuing to keep that aspect of their game in a power position. It is opinion that any good team should start at the inside of the lines and work their way out. It is not always the mold for championship teams, just like the QB position, see:
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Mark Rypien
Jeff Hostetler
Jim McMahon
The Bills obviously had multiple needs and chose the best player available on the board and someone they thought would/could help them for years to come. FYI, its not always on the team why the player wont re-sign with the team that drafts them. They didnt have much of a choice to come here in the first place.
Sorry to jump in on your thunder Bandit.
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I, for one, 100% agree.
I think McKelvin has a ton of skill, but I get tired of watching him (along with McGee) give up 15-yard completions underneath their coverage. For the amount the team is paying McKelvin, their getting far better value in Drayton Florence.
And for the amount their paying McGee, the team could've had much better value in Greer (assuming he stayed healthy).
However, McKelvin is an excellent kick returner...
Thanks Bandit,
Ive been saying that about McGee and Greer all year. They truly mad the wrong decision on that one. Traded McGee and gotten even a 6 pack for his services and signing Greer was the move. The FO messed that one up bad.
At one point in the season I was listening to the Saints commentator in an interview and he was saying the Bills screwed up and gave them possibly the best CB the saints have ever had. UGH!
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I would characterize the two a bit different.
Jackson: Smart, decisive, athletic, good power, a gamer.
Lynch: Dumb as a box of rocks, indecisive, not a whole lot of athleticism, great power, lost.
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As far as the posted topic, I think the person from Fidelity who spoke for the company has his issues confused.
Fantasy football as gambling? He might want to ask the NFL and the hundreds of former NFL players and coaches who endorse fantasy football products about that one. If a person was inclined to gamble on games, he could do so online, through a bookie with parlay cards, in an office pool, etc. Most guys who I know who play fantasy football (myself included) would do it for free just for the competitive aspect and for the bragging rights.
Fantasy football is the immersion of sports fanatics into a pursuit which takes, including draft preparation, 5+ months out of the year. Most leagues have very modest prize money. I personally think it's a stretch to call fantasy football, gambling. The cost/benefit basis makes fantasy football a very different animal than wagering on games.
On the other hand, if people are supposed to be working and are instead, going online to play and administer fantasy football leagues on company time, and likely violating workplace rules prohibiting the use of work computers for recreational pastimes and/or visiting non-approved web sites, then Fidelity has a case.
Your weak, real fantasy owners are 365/year. Maybe thats why you lose. More preperation and less talky talky for you mister.
My boss thinks I work all day. LOL
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Some of the picks are lucky for being tipped. But you have to put yourself in position to even get those balls. And Byrd is a good player and is doing just that. Putting himself in position to be a playmaker. If this defense was actually good at rushing the passer and stopping the run then Byrd would show he is a monster. He will only get better. I know he continues to play through it, but he really needs clean up the small bumps and bruises hes getting.
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i for the life of me can not understand why alot of posters keep saying jackson is old or will only be around for a few more years.
the guy does not have the normal wear and tear that running backs that entered the nfl at age 22-23 have at 29.
why is that so hard to get? everybody talks about jackson like he's been in the nfl for 7 years.
i dont think we can fairly compare jackson's wear to a typical nfl runningback
I agree to some extent that he does not have the normal wear and tear of a typical NFL back, but he has been playing football the entire time. He didnt just come off a stint with UPS and not get pounded on every week. And with a running back, regardless of wear and tear, it comes down to age. Just like Olympic athletes, or any other sport for that reason. It is not likely to see someone play past 30. It just doesnt happen that much unless you are a physical freak of nature.
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my favorite was when he said it looked like a couple of 3-9 and 4-8 teams were playing
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I totally agree, the idiotic morons on this board that were calling for the Bills to trade Lynch, don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, or much about football. Watching the last two games, Lynch and Jackson complement each other well, one of the few positions we don't have to worry about upgrading on this team. With our two backs, we probably have one of the top 3 or 4 RB tandems in the league, you can't say that about any other position on this team, even WR where we thought we did, but how has that panned out?
Dolphins
Ravens
Steelers
Jags
Titans
Chargers
Cowboys
Giants
Eagles
Vikings
Falcons
Panthers
Saints
Its funny that every one of the teams I just mentioned have probably better RB teams/tandems then Lynch and Jackson. Im not looking up stats based on teams in the NFL. It would most likely show more teams then who I just pointed out anyway.
But that is besides the point. The issue that was under argument before wasnt if Lynch sucks, it was if Jackson is better. That has been proven this season as Jackson has taken a hold of the starting position and Lynch continues to run in ways he was not intended. Like trying to juke that defender yesterday. He is a small power back and should run that way. Not dance around the line like a wanna-be Barry Sanders. He is not good enough to find the hole and not small enough to fit in it even if he did. I personally like Jackson more then Lynch as many seem to be jumping on that bus, but I still like Lynch for what he is. But he needs a RB coach in a bad way to tell him what he should and should not be doing when hes on the field.
However the real issue with Lynch is going to be if he can stay out of trouble, which he has proved he cannot in the offseason. Its a fact!!! If the dumb F*&K cant stay out of trouble I dont want him. He does nothing for this team if he is suspended for 8 games or the entire season after getting caught doing something dumb again. Someone already posted that RB's are a dime a dozen. Especially dumb ones that are supposed to be power backs but try and dance around like something they are not. We could pick up a rookie in the 4th round to do what he does.
With all that said, I still like him and if he can keep out of trouble im still happy hes on this team.
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Honestly, I love the guy. I think he is good for the sport, he has fun playing a game for a living and I like that. Some of his antics and celebrations aren't all that funny but thats okay. He stays out of trouble with the law and he is not mean spirited about anything. I'd take him on the Bills in a heartbeat, certainly for his talent, but also for entertaining personality.
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I agree completely. He is fun and not mean spirited. It could be worst. You could know about him for running some poor girl over in the middle of the night, or getting caught inside a car with weed and weapons in the middle of the night, or getting tased by police because you are resisting arrest. The truth is OchoCinco is a good guy and loves the game and treats it as a game. From hanging up the names of every DB he burns every week, or sending Peptol Bismol to the secondaries hes about to face, its all in fun. He is not over the top in a bad way at all. And he has never gotten in trouble off the field. The only time there was any doubt with him was when his play dropped off (mostly due to injury) and he was upset that he was not resigned to a long term deal with Cinci. He asked to be traded when this came up and they refused to deal him no matter what what said. They refused two 1st round picks from the Redskins if I am not mistaken so nobody can say there were not acceptable offers for him at the time. He is one of my favorite players in the game today and as much as I would love him on the Bills, Im hoping he stays a Bengal for life. (truth is I really like their black jerseys and no one else IMO is worth gettig besides Chad)
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no get mcnabb he'll be free after this year and will play for 4 or 5 more years
LINK? I dont think McNabb is going to be a FA after this year. I do however think Kolb is and he would be a good fit for this team.
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Tom Brady and Chad Pennington are the last two QB's to win the AFC east since 2001. Now we all know that Trent is not the answer and Fitz is no more then a good backup. Brohm is a project and won't start next season or maybe not the year after if ever. Now even if we go QB round 1 (I think LT is the better pick philosophically but its all Dependant on the guys actually available) Pennington is a great guy to have a young guy sit and learn for a year from him.
Derrick Johnson is a guy on the outs in KC because he isn't a fit for the scheme. Now if we maintain a 4-3 he is a good fit for that scheme and due to his dropped value could be had at a very reasonable price (Around the same deal we gave Mitchell) and help out this much hindered run D.
Both could be had both fit a need and could be had. Draft a LT in round 1, Draft a DT in round 2, and sign Pennington and Derrick Johnson and this team fills 4 needs going into next season. Seems like a plan?
I did not know about Derrick Johnson but I have been on the "pick up Chad Pennington" bandwagon for most of this season. I do not think he can be starter for a full 16 games nor do I want him to be. We draft a young QB in round 2 after getting our starting LT in round 1 and the rookie can play and learn behind Pennington a leader, winner and very accurate QB until ready to take over or until forced to take over do to injury.
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This is by far the dumbest post I have ever read. Excuse me for stating things that may have already been talked about in the last 5 pages. I couldnt bring myself to ready everyones responses.
Nobody in this world should owe anything to JP Losman. The guy flat out sucked. He played on a better team and a better line that your 2nd love in Trance Checkwards and he sucked. He was able to put up yards and that was about it. Just like Trance, he threw more interceptions and made bad plays then touchdowns or converted anything worth a spit.
I do agree that both JP and Trance would have, should have, could have been better if they would have been on a better team, with a better coaching staff, and better organizaion. But the fact is they werent given that opportunity. They tried their best and it wasnt good enough. They are both young enough to actually make something of themselves but it will not happen here and it shouldnt even if it is a possibility. This team needs a full rebuild from all the way up at the top to all the way down to the towel boys.
JP might actually make something of himself now that he is away from this franchise. I actually have hope for him. Truth is I always liked JP and was a believer that he could turn things around. But it speaks volumes that no NFL team picked him up in the offseason and its not like teams are breaking down his door after the season he had in the UFL.
Trance Checkwards on the other hand is just about done as Thanksgiving turkey dinner, except his brains are more smashed then the mashed potatoes and gravy my aunt makes that I love so much. Mentally he is done, running scared and it shows. He has lost all his confidence and never had the physical attributes to overcome it. His biggest advantage is that he was a smart quarterback, reacted quickly and its all over now.
Im officially done with any Trent or JP losman threads moving forward. Everyone needs to get over it. The Bills have.
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For the most part draft choices (unless your picking top 5, or maybe 10) are project players and not suitable for NFL play right out of the gate. There is no way to know who is going to be a stud before the draft and that is why guys like Tom Brady fall to the 6th round.
The one thing that bothers me about the Bills choices are they draft guys that are more projects then others and with the sub-par coaching staff the ruin these players for their careers.
Look at guys that were highly recocnized out of college or should have had better careers and continue to struggle because our team/coaching staff sucks.
JP Losman
Aaron Maybin
Willis McGahee
Chris Kelsey
Trent Edwards
John McCargo
Paul Pozlauzny
Donte Whitner
Ashton Youboty
I have no doubt that with good coaches, or even better then aweful we would have been able to make some of these guys better.
I guess the good thing now is that we can hope we have a real coach that comes in here at the end of this season and develop some of these young guys like Maybin, Poz, Whitner, Possibly Trent if its not too late.
The other guys are gone or its too late to make them anything in this league. They have already been coached long enough to play like Dick acts. They are done for life in the NFL IMO.
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I wouldnt say he is the worst in the league. But anyone that thinks he is a bright spot on our Defense/Team is just delusional. Yes the guy has it rough because the OL is always downfield but cmon. The guy takes bad angles, always chasing from behind, always out of position. Good MLB's are ALWAYS in the the right place, and ALWAYS take the right angles, and can overcome the blocks form the OL. Watch a team like Baltimore, or San Francisco and pay attention to their MLB's. They dictate what the offenses do around them. Not the other way around. Poz doesnt do that. He always plays catch-up with what the offense is doing. I dont think he is a complete waste at MLB. but I do think he is better suited in a 3-4. If he was one of 2 MLB's in a 3-4 he might be stronger.
And anyone that uses the excuse that he is still playing with a bummed arm can think about why is this guy always injured. We have had him for 3 years now and hes only made about 60% of the games (im not taking the time to look up how many games hes missed but this seems right).
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He is what I've been saying for the past 2 years. A waste of a roster spot. It's not like hes a game changer. He's run back a handful of kicks/punts in his career. The times where he gets big returns or TD's only even him out for the amount of times he completely screws up the other 80%. People are just realizing his true negetive value now. I have seen it for years and been against him. But if he returns one for a TD against the Chiefs most of the haters will jump back on the "suck Roscoe's balls" bandwagon and wonder why this guy isnt on the field more. Its a shame we have wasted so much time and money on such a bad football player.
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I will not even think about comparing Fewell to Singletary, but I do like what Fewell has shown so far. If we cannot land a big name (Cowher, Shannahan) type of coach and we are looking at guys like Fassel or Haslett, then I think were better off with Fewell. He knows what we have, he knows who is capable of playing and what positions. He doesnt seem to show any love for what Dick did when he was here. It looks like the exact opposite of a few weeks ago under Dick. IMO Fewell (along with the other coaches) was handcuffed to the scheme that Dick wanted.
Im not ready to announce that Fewell should be the HC yet, but if he can manage to finish the season with a winning record or even beat the Pats then Im giving him a very long look at what hes done in his short time as HC.
We might even be better saving 7M+/yr on a coach and getting a few more big name free agents in here in the offseason. I say if Fewell does well, then give him the keys and let him bring in what he needs to compete. But keep him on a short leesh.
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I am just so glad I was right about Lynch before the season started when all the Beast Mode lovers were talking about him being the next Walter Payton. He really needs to get smarter on and off the football field. I never doubted his abilities, or physical play. I always did doubt his smarts. If he just learned the right thing to do he could be much better. And I agree with your thoughts about the Pro-Bowl comment. He was given the award as an alternate, that means nothing IMO.
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I was in the tunnel side end zone and it was about as loud as it usually is. In fact since we were actuall in this game it might have been louder.
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Where did you get this info, all morning when I have been listening its simply from a source, that is what Shanny might be looking for.
Agreed,
This is all crap. Once people start believing what WGR posts they are done and should end their lives. J/K. But really, they have no idea what they are talking about. They were only speculating from a previous article what it might take. Never did they say that Ralph made an offer for that. In fact they stated Ralph heard of the rumor and would still be interested in speaking to Shanny about it.
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My only issue is why in the hell did it take us so long to get him on the field as an OLB? We picked up Draft when we had this guy already on our team... Really?!?
IMO, this is just another reason this coaching staff was horrible. Maybe Draft will get injured and they will have no choice but to put Maybin at the other OLB spot and we can finally see that he is not a bust. Or maybe he is, at least we will actually get him on the field to access his talet a bit more.
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I am not sure if I can blame Sully. Hes from Boston, its obvious hes a POS. Its also the reason why he is always so negetive about this team, because like Trent Edwards, he is "not a fan of the Buffalo Bills".
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Maybe I am way off, but I think Graham is mistating this. Cowher declined because, as has been reported numerous times, he wants to wait until after the season to discuss any Head coaching opportunities. Even Graham's article says that Cowher denied a meeting for now. That does not mean he is not interested and does not mean he won't meet with the Bills at the end of the season. Shanahan said that he won't make a decision until aster the season, but he is willing to have a meeting now. Unless Tim has more info, I think this is much ado about nothing.
The thing I liked most about the NFL report on the Bills and Cowher was that Cowher wants to coach only, no front office duties. That is what I want from the next coach. Hire a GM to be GM and a Coach to coach. I would love Cowher here, I would be happy with Shanhan, Dungy or Holmgren. I'd be fine with Mariucci, Billick or Fassel. I would be disappointed with anyone else(unless we get a kick ass GM and he brings in a young energetic coach, I would be OK with that too).
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Im with you BM54. I like DF for a very short time when he was with the Bills then realized quickly what an egotistical POS he is. I dont get anything the guy has done really. Some say he saved the bills franchise from moving when we couldnt sell out tickets. It was just more of the crap we deal with today. Ralph saying he cant keep a team here and make money. Its a scheme to make money or he would have left years ago. It all comes down to Ralph holding the fans hostage by making comments like he will move the team.
Doug never did anything fantastic. Throws like that one are made all the time and we dont get that excited over them. I guess if you factor in that hes a midget, it was BC, and they were playing agaisnt the Miami powerhouse its something to rewind the DVR over, but not much more then that.
My opinion might be tainted because I actually hate him as a person, but thats my take.
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Sure, but falling in love with a 29 year old running back that had two good games and hasn't done jack since...that's the right idea.....
I personally like FJ more than ML but I have never fallen in love with him. The fact is (and I proved it before by stats and dont have time to do it right now, nor do I really care to go through all that again) that FJ is a better back. Based on blocking, route running, receiving, yards/carry, and leadership. He is more versitle and just plays a smarter game all around. Does that mean that I think he is the long term answer? Absolutely not, he is 29 years old and (even though he has much less milage on him then most backs his age) should start to wear down fairly soon after hitting that 30 mark. All Im saying is that we could have possibly traded Lynch for even a 4th round pick in the offseason (before the suspension came) and we would have been better off. He hasnt done anything this year to fall in love with and most likely he will not be resigned (probably because of his off the field issues) anyway. Get something while you can for the waste of talent. Hes not a smart player on the field, and hes defenately not smart off it based on the last 2 offseasons.
Bill from NYC Posted Today, 04:39 PMPeople are hesitant to admit when high draft picks are a bust. I don't blame them mind you. It sucks to have to face the fact that inept, senile, stupid management has destroyed this team yet again.
Whitner and Lynch are not bad. They are both decent picks.....for round 3.
Completely agree. They arent bad at all. But to call them great, or even good is a joke. They are better then average and thats it. For example, If either of them would have been on Pittsburgh last year for their Super Bowl team they would have been back ups. That should tell us something. Other players that fall into this category are Poz, Mitchell, Evans, McGee and Schobel. Would have all been back ups on a Super Bowl team. And lets not get into the Mitchell argument that he was a starter, he was the worst LB for the Giants that year.
The truth is most of this team is not good or even average talent. The sooner we all realize this the sooner we can start to rebuild. I wonder how many people are going to really pissed when the new coach comes in and cuts/trades all the players they love so much. Im sure most people were pissed in Denver that they got rid of Cutler. Now its looking like it was the smart move. Hes thrown over 18 int's in Chi and Orton isnt exactly burning up the scoreboard but hes not losing games really either.
Owens on Philly Radio?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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One thing I would say is that if the team was nearly as good as that Philly team he would be embraced much more. The fact that we suck makes going to games and the name chanting a little pointless.