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You can keep saying that for the next three years, hoping he develpes, and Ill keep saying "I told you so"
Im a fan of bringing in the new coach like you hope happens. I also feel the same way. We will not go anywhere with Dick as the HC. He consistantly loses us games that are winnable.
I personally dont think Maybin is a "bust" yet. You are correct that the developing of him after another year would be rediculous. We cut him lose if thats the case. Or just make him a backup and eat the contract.
I am a firm believer that Maybin will be converted to an OLB (and will be a good one) once we get out new coach. Either we switch to a 3-4 or the new coach just tells Aaron the way it is and hes not big enough to be a solid DE in the league. A real coach with some nuts would have done that already, especially considering the lack of starters, and talent we have at LB.
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He sounds like hes mentally ill. It almost makes me feel like they are making a joke about him being clueless.
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Shuffle them around, it's the Wilson way:
Dick = Defensive Coodinator (Dick being the loyal guy he is, takes the demotion, takes the pay cut)
Fewell = Special Teams Coordinator
April = Offensive Coordinator
Van Pelt = Back to QB's coach (next most worthy candidate for demotion)
Billoick = Head Coach
I'd be cool with this.
I dont understand peoples infatuation with Bobby April. Can someone please explain why we need a coach that takes roster spots from the important positions in football? Bobby April constistantly gets his pick of draft picks and thats why we end up with guys like Roscoe Parrish at WR, or Stamer, Corto, Digorio, Wire playing LB or S. Its ok to have 3 or 4 players dedicated for key special teams positions, but having every backup on your team suck just so you can have fast, high motor guys on kickoffs is a joke. I say Bobby April should be the first to go. And everyone whos going to say that he has consistantly had the best ST's in the game for years I would like to ask you when the last time ST's really won us a game. Hes had good returners in Parrish, McGee, McKelvin for years, the best punter in the game, and a solid kicker. Pretty sure thats all you would need to show a good ST unit. Besides the fact that ST's is the least important of the 3 units that take the field on Sunday. We sacrifice potential football players for a bunch of misfits that can run downfield 60yrds but cant make a tackle on defense, or catch a ball on offense.
Flame away if you will, but it makes no sense to have a decent to good or even great ST unit if we dont have an offense and defence first.
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why don't we just sign OJ Simpson to play RB when he gets out of prison? At least he's actually played his position well. Vick's never been a good QB...just an athlete who can throw the ball with low accuracy on occasion
So your saying hes just like Trent Edwards or JP losman without the actual wins?
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Hostage? No way. Someone who is willing is not a hostage.
I read these 2 sentences many times, and it is still a mind boggling concept to me. I'm not putting you down, as there are many who feel exactly the same way you do. But in my feeble mind these two statements together do not compute ...
My translation ...
I'm being sold a bad product, but I will continue to buy it as long as it exists.
or
Man, this 6 month old spoiled milk tastes really bad and I puke every time I drink it. I'll take another gallon every week please.
Does not compute ... does not compute ... (traces of smoke escaping from brain)
My point is I love the City, love football, love the Bills, love the experience, and love being one of the 32 places on the planet that gets to watch football 8...er...7 times a year. I will always go to games as long as it is possible. But that doesnt mean that what I watch on the field is worth a sh*t. Right now its close to as bad as it ever has been. Everyone who has been a Bills fan, or lived in the City of Buffalo and supported this team deserves better than an old man who cant even go to the bathroom on his own to make the decisions for this team. It is what it is but its a joke to every other team in the league and the fans that follow them.
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If you can run the ball you don't need to pass the ball!!!
Here's a quiz ... Name ONE QB that lead the league in passing yards that won a SB that same year.
2009 passing yards to date @ # 19 Kurt Warner, #16 Jason Campbell, #15 Eli Manning, #1 Aaron Rodgers
Thats almost unfair to ask. You could ask the same question for rushing yards, or receptions, or receiving yards, or TD's for any position or yards against the run, or pass, or both. Its a team sport. Which brings me to this next point. Trent is the leader of this team and as the leader of this team should take it upon himself to bring them to the next level and he doesnt. The entire team has played flat for the last 3 years. Maybe its Trent, maybe its Dick, maybe its the playcalling and the horrible OC's. The truth is that with the constant being Trent, Dick, and the bad OC's they should all go. We have dealt with this crap for way too long. Why is it that other teams can make changes from one year to the next, or teams like the Eagles draft WR's in the draft and get them to produce right out of the box, or QB's become good by the end of their first or 2nd year. Stats can be flawed in many ways to look better for one team/player or the next. But year after year Trent and this team continues to struggle. Its a trend not a coincidence. The QB, Coaching Staff need to go.
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There was a great interview with Jim Schwartz yesterday and he addressed several things that come up in discussions about Jauron.
1) "Hope is not a plan." He is always hoping that players will step up, but his plan is to build a team that wins football games consistently. Replacing people that aren't getting the job done is a fact of life in the NFL.
2) "Injuries are a fact of life." Injuries will happen in the NFL and talking about how good you'd be if you were healthy is nonsense. In order to build a winning football team, your plan has to be to build a complete team that has depth and has guys that are ready to step up when injuries can and do occur.
3) "Take your shots." You have to have a QB that is a leader and who is willing to experience some failure before greatness and has the right mentality to deal with it. He's totally convinced Stafford has the mental acuity, toughness, and work ethic to be a great QB.
4) "It's not about systems." As the head coach, he has to figure out what works best for the guys he has and put them in the right schemes and situations. He specifically targeted assistants with tons of NFL experience so that they could adapt to the players they had and continue to adapt to the new players they bring in.
All very good/valid points. One thing that comes to mind when I think of Jauron, I think of a coach that tried to draft his players, and change his players to adapt to his (failing) system. With good teams you see the opposite. For example you dont see the Patriots, Saints or Colts lighting up the rushing stats each week and each year. You dont see Baltimore, Miami, Carolina lighting it up in the passing column either. Good teams adapt to make their players better not the other way around.
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Personally, I'm kind of targetting Jimmy Claussen. Good athlete who learned a pro-style offense. Think we can get a tackle in round two. It's time to put the QB in place.
I was just about to say the same thing. Claussen is probably my choice at QB. If you think you can get him in the 2nd, which i dont think is possible then you take him with your 1st and draft the highest OL'men in the 2nd regardless of what position he plays. Take the most talented one. Butler, Wood, Levitre, and Hangartner can all be moved around to different positions if needed.
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$185k per year is a ridiculous amount of money, but you'd have to think that if he hit FA, he would have gotten that from anyone and probably played on a better team. Maybe Moulds told him the grass isn't always greener.
Id be willing to bet that happened. They seemed very freindly when I saw them both signing autographs once. Im putting money on it that Moulds wasnt happy with his career after Buffalo.
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Seriously? If you find one, let us know.
Not that theres alot, and some of these are obviously meant to be a joke but the Jauron/continuity fans do exist.
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He's the guy Marv wanted and still supports. That's all it took. Words didn't and wouldn't have made a difference.
Not blasting...just the way it is...
I understand that and know you are not bashing. Im just saying its absolutely funny that some people still want him here. FO, Fans, Players when all they have to do is look at his previous lack of success as a HC in the NFL. I think the opening statement of the article is a perfect quote from Dick.
"We're a good football team when we're healthy. How good, I don't know."
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Go into the archives and you'll find much underwhelming support of his hiring.
That was more intented for the Bills FO
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I was bored at work and thought I would take a look at what some of the reports were when Dick was with his other teams. I came across a few different ones like how he completely screwed up the QB position when he didnt start a young Rex Grossman, or how his players were constantly injured, or how he had cake walk training/mini camps. This article pretty much summed up what Dick Jauron is and has been with the Buffalo Bills. Its almost like you could take the Bears players names out and insert Bills players and you could use this article tomorrow in the Buffalo News and it would be correct.
Anyway, I thought it was funny that for his career he has been the same guy, making bad decisions. Can someone tell me again why is he still here or still in the NFL as a HC? To all the Dick lovers out there please read this and try and make an argument that you can clearly state why he should still be here. Its exactly the same scenario as Chicago and they made the Super Bowl with much of the same talent just 3 years after his final season. Hmmmm.
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Amazing how he had no problem getting open for Bledsoe and JP. You think it might be the QB.......
Minnesota's WR's couldn't get open until Farve came. Atlanta's WR's couldn't get open until Ryan showed up.
Evan's would be a pro bowler if we had a consistant qb. Mould's career should be an example of how bad quarterbacking can have an impact on WR's.
I really like Evans but he is too undersized and not nearly physical enough to be a solid #1. Look at any playoff team and he is most likely the #2 WR on any of those teams.
Lets take last years playoffs as an example:
Steelers- Ward
Ravens- Mason
Colts- Wayne
Chargers- Jackson
Giants- Should have been Burress
Panthers- Smith
Cardinals- Boldin, Fitzgerald
Even the other teams in the playoffs had quality WR's that are probably as good as Evans. Im not going to do the leg work to find out, and its all my opinion anyways. I just dont think he is big and physical enough.
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If you're not rooting for an 11-5 regular season at this point, you're no Bills fan
Its funny, I was just about to say if your rooting for Jauron to continue to turn this team into the joke of the league your no Bills fan.
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If everyone else is in sync with the QB as Williams says...doesn't that mean Williams is the problem?
Like I said, I dont exactly back Roy Williams, but TO seemed to have the same issues. It just might mean that Romo is a bit of a drama magnet.
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Previous post I wrote on another topic:
"I personally dont believe that Dick will ever (barring a few lucky games) have a winning season in football ever again as a head coach. For this reason I believe that he is the main reason why we have missed the playoffs the last 3 years. 3-4 straight years of injuries is not a coincidence it is a trend with this team and Dick is the constant. He has gone through 3 different OC's, tried out 3 QB's, botched up the RB situation, failed to sign/draft a legitimate WR when we needed one 3 years ago, failed to sign/draft actual players at DE and LB, failed in the scouting department and with the draft, horribly failed at clock/game management.
IMO the only thing he was able to be successful at is providing an above average secondary (you would think after so many DB's anyone could get it right tho), and buying additional time as a HC in the league since he should have been fired 2 years ago.
I for one am glad to lose every single game until Dick is gone. It sucks to swallow that pill now, but it will be much better in the future knowing hes not here to F*&K up this franchise."
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Althought I have no respect for what Roy has to say, and most people would say that TO was being a bit crazy last year. This does raise eyebrows about Romo (who I've never understood the fascination as to why everyone thinks he is so great)
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I'd much rather go 10-6 than 7-9. Anyone who says otherwise should leave Buffalo now. I'd much rather go 8-8 than 7-9 so that people will shut up with the 7-9 already.
I agree with what your saying but if you think Dick is a legitimate 8-8 or 10-6 coach its understandable. IMO if Dick gets past the 8-8 barrier its only due to luck and playing bad teams. That doesnt mean that we would be a good team. Id rather suffer now when I know its going to suck and hope that next year a new coach can start to bring this team back to relevance.
Heres a good question. If you were given the opportunity to make the playoffs this year but you would have to keep Dick through the following 2 seasons of 7-9 would you take it knowing that he is a horrible coach?
Or would you rather go 4-12 this year knowing that you might have the next coach around the corner and ready to take us to the playoffs for years to come.
Of course there is no way to guarantee that a new coach can do that. But I can pretty much guarantee Dick cant considering hes a career .429 coach with only 1 winning season out of 10.
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I personally dont believe that Dick will ever (barring a few lucky games) have a winning season in football ever again as a head coach. For this reason I believe that he is the main reason why we have missed the playoffs the last 3 years. 3-4 straight years of injuries is not a coincidence it is a trend with this team and Dick is the constant. He has gone through 3 different OC's, tried out 3 QB's, botched up the RB situation, failed to sign/draft a legitimate WR when we needed one 3 years ago, failed to sign/draft actual players at DE and LB, failed in the scouting department and with the draft, horribly failed at clock/game management.
IMO the only thing he was able to be successful at is providing an above average secondary (you would think after so many DB's anyone could get it right tho), and buying additional time as a HC in the league since he should have been fired 2 years ago.
I for one am glad to lose every single game until Dick is gone. It sucks to swallow that pill now, but it will be much better in the future knowing hes not here to F*&K up this franchise.
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Thanks, although I still feel bad about the abominable thread-jacking.
You werent the one that jacked it tho.
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So what you're saying is that, despite all of the evidence to the contrary--which I have presented several times in this very thread (on this very page no less)--you're going to stick to that faulty line of logic?
Here it is, one last time, in simple English:
There are plenty of statistics (i.e. offensive rankings), game results (i.e. Superbowl victories), and current performance indicators (i.e. YPC, YPA) that completely disprove the point you continuously try to make, and yet you argue without providing any relevant facts or reason.
Your belligerence in the face of being (quite literally) proven wrong about needing a good offensive line for a QB (or an offense, for that matter) to succeed is astounding. The summation of your points has been:
- Well other QBs scramble and Trent doesn't
- Jim Kelly used to talk up his offensive linemen and take them to dinner
- Owners of the better teams spend all their money on the offensive line
Since I've already debunked the first 2, I'll now rip the third point to shreds:
Let's start with this: who are the "better teams in the league"? How about: Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Giants, and this year the Saints and Vikings. So let's now move to the question of "where do they spend the greatest amount of money"?
Colts - Peyton Manning has a $100M+ contract, and will likely get a new one in the next year or so that pays him $50M in guaranteed money. By contrast, their highest paid offensive lineman is C Jeff Saturday, who makes less than Geoff Hangartner ($3.7M vs. $4M). They start a rookie free agent at left tackle over former 2nd round pick Tony Ugoh.
Patriots - Tom Brady has a $100M+ contract. Their highest paid offensive lineman is LT Matt Light, who signed a 3-year extension worth $18M back in 2007. I know you can do the math, but (just for emphasis) $100M is far greater than $18M.
Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger has a $100M+ contract. Their highest paid offensive lineman is LT Max Starks, who is playing for the Transition tag value of $7.8M. Since their o-line is one of the worst in the NFL in pass protection, and is mediocre at best in run blocking, he's not likely to be retained following this season. Even at that, $100M is still far more than $7.8M.
Giants - Eli Manning just signed a $96M contract. Their highest paid offensive lineman is LT David Diehl (at least until they have to give Chris Snee a new deal--he'll probably get one worth $7M a year I'm guessing), who signed a 6-year, $33M extension following the 2007 season (a season in which--according to Stats, Inc.--he gave up the most sacks in the NFL, and yet the Giants won the Superbowl...weird). Again, $96M is far, far more of an investment than $33M.
Saints - Drew Brees signed a 6-year, $60M deal with New Orleans in 2007. Their highest paid lineman is LT Jammal Brown, who's playing on his rookie deal worth around $14M over 5 years. They probably won't re-sign him when it expires, considering that his backup (Jermon Bushrod) has been starting since week 1 and has played fine in his absence. Even so, $60M is a significantly larger sum than $14M.
Vikings - Brett Favre's deal is worth $12M per year. Steve Hutchinson, the team's highest paid offensive lineman, signed a 7-year, $49M deal following the 2006 season. They also pay Bryant McKinnie about $5M per year. So finally, we've found one that's close. I guess, for your part, 1 out of 6 isn't bad, right?
Ok, I'm tired of beating up on your argument now. So feel free to sell me another line of bull, and when I have time I'll come back and prove that wrong too. Either that, or you can start responding to even one, just one, of the many facts that prove your point wrong. Sound fair?
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Your killing me Bandit and absolutely owning Dog that has no facts that prove his point. I do agree that offensive lines are important but a good QB can prove that an Oline is not needed. It can be the other way around but usually its the running back that benefits from killer Olines, ex. Emmitt Smith's entire career.
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To the Ralph Wilson bashers in this thread:
You do realize that without Ralph Wilson, you would be bitching about some team from a different city. Ralph has made mistakes.....what owner hasn't? The team is a mess right now and 91 or not, Ralph is painfully aware of that. Very few people agreed with keeping Jauron after last season and Ralph knows that too. Ralph does things his own way and fans don't always agree with those things when the team is not playing well. Barring a miracle, things will change after the season is over. For better or worse, no one can say.
I've certainly done my fair share of Bills-bashing and reserve the right to continue to do so. But it's time to lay off Ralph.
You mean the same owner that has managed the team to a sub .500 record over 50 years? Or the same owner that runs quality GM's and coaches out of town? The same owner that has threatened the city his team plays in that he will move if tickets arent sold? The same owner that lets his pro bowl talent walk when they become free agents? The same owner that held on to a career losing coach after 3 straight 7-9 seasons? The same owner that has given 8 home games over 5 years to another country?
The truth is the Bills .475 only have better winning %'s than the following teams. Im not quite sure I would count the Texans since they are still very new to the league and barely coming out of their expansion phase.
Jets .452
Bengals .4.37
Texans .375
Lions .441
Saints .416
Falcons .413
Buccaneers .393
Cardinals .420
Ralph has held this city hostage with this team and as happy as I am that he has brought them here and kept them here he has consistantly put a bad product on the field. I go to every home game, and will continue to as long as there is a team here in Buffalo, I've gone to NFL drafts, and HOF inductions for this team. I bleed Bills blue and red. But I dont try and sugar coat what Ralph is and has been. Many would argue he even belongs in the HOF along with his beloved coach Marv Levy, who was really just an average coach and above average babysitter with tons of talent. He was obscenely outcoached in SB25 and couldnt keep his players from going out til 6am blowing coke and getting drunk in whatever town they were in at any particular time.
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Ive seen some posts that suggest up t 12 players. The truth is you are exactly whats wrong with this team. Too many people thinking too many of our players are good or have real potential. If this front office keeps thinking players like Poz, Mitchell, Whitner, Schobel, McGee, Lynch are good players we will always have a team of underachievers and injured players.
Jackson- Only because you can use him for a few years as starter if needed
Evans- Only as #2, might actually be good with a good WR and true #1 WR on the team
Nelson- Has potential to be a quality TE
Wood- Has potential to be really good
Levitre- Has Potential to be good
Byrd- Tons of potential, might be the next Ed Reed
McKelvin- Very good
Stroud- Big guy in the middle to build around until he gets too old
Marv Levy Coors Light Commercial
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You and I differ there as I thought it was easily one of the worst ones they have done. I also am not a believer that Marv was anything more than an average coach and doesnt deserve the accolades he has received by being a babysitter. And some times like when the players were out til 6am the nights before the Superbowls, a bad babysitter to boot.