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1 minute ago, Low Positive said:
My son's jersey is a blue Diggs. My daughter's is a red Tre White. I guess we'll have to do a bit of shopping in the near future.
thats why i only buy retired ring of honor players
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On 3/30/2024 at 7:29 PM, JerseyBills said:
So I would never say never but we all know there's pretty much no chance Stef is traded , unless it's an offer Beane just can't refuse, but what I find interesting here are the odds on where Diggs starts in 2024 and as a gambler I'm likely going to put my $ where my mouth is because these odds are great and it's easy easy $.
From article - When DraftKings Sportsbook first released odds on Stefon Diggs’ next team in February, the Buffalo Bills were big favorites (-300) to retain the four-time Pro Bowl wide receiver while the Houston Texans were 10-to-1 to land to get him (or +1000).
For non gamblers you'd need to spend 300 to win 100 on Diggs staying in Buf and spend 10$ to win 100 if he landed in Hou..
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There’s been a shift in those odds over the last month with Houston jumping up the board, though the odds are still projecting a return to Buffalo. By March 18, DraftKings’ new odds had Buffalo as the favorite (-230) and Houston up to +550 - again as the third-favorite - behind the Dallas Cowboys (+400).
With the Cowboys being stagnant in free agency, they’ve dropped to +850 to land Diggs while Houston’s price has been bumped to +350 in the latest market shift. Those odds carry an implied probability of 22.22% that Houston would make a giant splash by giving quarterback C.J. Stroud an elite outside weapon next season.
So now, big difference , you can now spend only 230 to win 100 for Diggs staying in Buff and Hou dropped all the way to +350, 👀👀 meaning instead of winning 100$ on a 10$ bet , now , a 10$ bet will only win you 35$ if Diggs landed on Houston. That's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE
Just caught my eye and very interesting to see the numbers move that significantly, especially towards Hou . I know what I'm doing, I'm 100% putting 1150$ to win an easy 500$ on Diggs starting the season as a Buffalo Bill. Maybe much more.
Just wanted to give my gamblers an easyyyy money maker that is Bills related!🤑
kudos for uncovering the shift to houston
if im reading this right....you ignored your scoop and bet buffalo.....bummer....lol
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kudos to this TBD poster noticing on SATURDAY the line moving diggs to houston
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Bad Short Term 2024 - disaster $31 mil dead cap hole for an elite player not on team. (pretend he got injured like von if it helps)
Good Long Term 2025-2027 - clears alot of cap space. you can buy alot of groceries with that savings (cap hit zero going forward)
2025 - $27.3 mil
2026 - $28.4 mil
2027 - $22.5 mil
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The Bills say they grew their season ticket base to 63,767 in 2023. That's the most ever for the organization. The team projects that number to grow to 64,000 for the 2024 season.
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2 hours ago, Locomark said:
PSLs are as good as stocks when the team is winning. In some future date, when you sell your seats, you will recoup the PSL from that buyer plus a premium.
The modern NFL charges these everywhere including in the other blue collar towns. I think people forget that a season ticket for the Sabres 100 level is $8000+ per ticket so when the cheaper PSLs $s come out around or lower than that, it’s relatively cheap.
#1 - what happens to the STH who keeps his seats for the full 30 years of the PSL's life. what is the PSL worth to them after 30 years. i'd say zero ? maybe the right to purchase the next PSL for stadium renovations ?
#2- what happens to the STH who sells after 20 years ? doesn't the new owner only transfer over the remaining 10 years. what's that worth ? probably less than the original initial fee
#3- what happens to the STH who sells in 10 years ? if you look at the history of the browns and jets....it's for less than they initially paid.
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15 minutes ago, papazoid said:
Only 1.6% of season-ticket account holders (all of whom have premium club-seat locations at the current stadium) have been invited to the Stadium Experience in Amherst
Among the people who have been invited, 96% have visited the Stadium Experience or scheduled a visit, and 75% of the account holders who have visited have signed PSL agreements for club seats.
(of the 25% who didn't agree to new club level seats immediately on first offer....i bet more than half of them get seats in a less expensive area on their second chance meeting. so that initial 75% will likely go to 85-90%)
"season-ticket ACCOUNT HOLDERS".......safe to assume most account holders have at least two tix, some more. i myself have 6 tix
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Only 1.6% of season-ticket account holders (all of whom have premium club-seat locations at the current stadium) have been invited to the Stadium Experience in Amherst
Among the people who have been invited, 96% have visited the Stadium Experience or scheduled a visit, and 75% of the account holders who have visited have signed PSL agreements for club seats.
(of the 25% who didn't agree to new club level seats immediately on first offer....i bet more than half of them get seats in a less expensive area on their second chance meeting. so that initial 75% will likely go to 85-90%)
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5 minutes ago, Mango said:
You sold 6/8 games and Terry didn’t come after you for a resellers license?that scalper crackdown announcement like the Sabres, won't happen until the Bills have all the PSL money in their pocket
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13 hours ago, papazoid said:
friend of mine who sits in LOWER BOWL goes for his experience tomorrow (tues)
1965 seniority, 50 yard line
should have some good info in 24 hours
P.S. of the 25% who didn't agree to new club level seats immediately on first offer....i bet more than half of them get seats in a less expensive area on their second chance meeting. so that initial 75% will likely go to 85-90%
FALSE ALARM.....APOLOGIES.....my friend is confused....his "experience" today is just the normal STH RELOCATION process from current stadium.
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friend of mine who sits in LOWER BOWL goes for his experience tomorrow (tues)
1965 seniority, 50 yard line
should have some good info in 24 hours
P.S. of the 25% who didn't agree to new club level seats immediately on first offer....i bet more than half of them get seats in a less expensive area on their second chance meeting. so that initial 75% will likely go to 85-90%
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8 hours ago, Mr Info said:
You are correct. My rep sent me a copy of the 27 page PSL agreement to review before deciding whether to purchase. Included were payment terms, licensee benefits & obligations, non payment of season tickets, etc.
can you post it in a pdf file ?..ty
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all the 2023 different levels of pricing by section/area
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/upload/v1676471808/bills/e7wdwwstbcqf3p4xru8v.jpg
assuming they are taking each different class/price one by one. starting with the highest price. then going by seniority within that group.
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Outcry over Bills' personal seat license rollout misguided ??
Only 1.6% of season-ticket account holders (all of whom have premium club-seat locations at the current stadium) have been invited to the Stadium Experience in Amherst
Among the people who have been invited, 96% have visited the Stadium Experience or scheduled a visit, and 75% of the account holders who have visited have signed PSL agreements for club seats.
As soon as this summer, season-ticket holders who currently have lower-bowl seats around midfield will be contacted. The PSL process will continue through the summer of 2026
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3 hours ago, Figster said:
My system has not been tested.
Teams losing on purpose to gain an advantage in the draft does not help the league from an entertainment standpoint.
My system makes teams work to improve...
the closest thing to your idea is tested constantly in the NBA & NHL.....it's called the draft lottery....and it's a disaster.
see the buffalo sabres losing out on drafting connor mcdavid as a prime example.
PLAYERS & COACHES will NEVER lose on purpose...please sight one example in the NFL.
now, i concede that a GM & OWNER can hinder a teams success by not spending to the cap max or upgrading the roster as best they can in hopes of improving their draft spot for maybe one season. but even then, you will never get players and coaches to play along and lose on purpose (see the NY JETS). their future livelihoods are at stake. the colts and andrew luck is the last best example of this by a GM & OWNER not trying their best. it just doesnt happen often enough to completely change the system.
take the rams, one year they win super bowl, the next year they miss the playoffs....coached the same.
PARITY is good. the current draft format is one of many ways the NFL achieves parity. a semi-hard Salary cap. free agency. roster size. the schedule where 1st place teams play each other, so one must lose, while 4th place teams play each other, so one must win. last to first place stories happen more in the NFL than the rest of the major sports combined.
nobody is losing on purpose. badly managed teams get GM's & Coaches fired pretty quick.
besides, somebody could game your system too if they wanted. whats better, being the last team in the playoffs and losing first game or being the first team out of playoffs and getting the first pick ?......getting the first pick will almost always be better.....therefore the potential for losing on purpose still exists.
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this is my current understanding. i have not met with the bills yet to confirm any of these answers
If a the PSL is purchased and financed over a 10 year period, and the buyer defaults, dies, changes their mind, etc.
(IF YOU FAIL TO PURCHASE TIX, YOU LOSE THE PSL. the bills can resell it. you must sell your PSL before deciding to stop buying tix)
Is that PSL re-sold at original cost or is it sold for the balance owed?
( YOU LIST IT ON A SPECIFIC AFTER MARKET FOR PSL's TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. could be higher, guessing likely lower)
If the PSL is paid in full, but the owner elects not to renew season tickets, what then?(YOU FORFEIT THE PSL. best to sell the PSL before not renewing)
Does the PSL owner still retain ‘ownership’ of those seats but the Bills can sell tickets for them?
(NO, ownership reverts back to bills. you of course can sell individual games on the NFL TICKETEXCHANGE....but expect a crackdown on selling most like that. see the letter the SABRES sent to season ticket holders who sell half or more. they must buy a NY state Broker license for about $5,000)
Can owners of PSLs sell them privately or do they have to go back to the Bills?
(YOU SELL THEM PRIVATELY ON A PSL MARKET PLACE) guessing there will be a way to sell them directly to a friend or family member bypassing the PSL marketplace.
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WBEN has learned from highly informed sources that the early season ticket retention rate thus far is in the 75% range.
Poloncarz believe the Bills are testing the PSL market with the higher end seating and expects they will adjust the costs for the remaining PSL's, based on that outcome. The county executive believes the costs should be known for all up front.
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2 hours ago, Einstein said:
Yes. So much information being skimmed and disregarded in order to move the conversation into a territory it was never originated to be in. This thread is a microcosm of the world.
Person A: Tomatoes are a fruit.
Person B: Ugh, but Apples are a red fruit and they don’t taste like tomatoes.
Person A: Okay? But we aren’t talking about Apples, we are talking about Tomatoes.
Person B: So you don’t like Tomatoes
Person A: I never said that. I just said they’re a fruit.
Person B: I’m a botanist, I have a degree in seeds, why are you so angry?
Person A: I’m not angry. I’m just telling you that Tomatoes are a fruit.
Person B: What is your issue with tomatoes!?!?
Person A: Huh!? (this is where I am now)
so, back to the personal store license (PSL) required, in order to buy these tomatoes
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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:
That article is over a year old now. The high end is much higher than the speculated $16,500. I see the low end being much higher than $500. I see it closer to $2500 of higher.
imo.....in order to save face....it's highly likely "some" PSL's will be $1,000
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Bills' potential PSL prices for new stadium range from $500 to $16,500
" Pegula Sports & Entertainment Exec VP Ron Raccuia said that the Bills "will most likely have the lowest personal seat license prices of any team with a new stadium" built since '09 and are "making an effort to keep prices market-friendly" (BUFFALO NEWS, 5/12).
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/05/12/Franchises/Bills.aspx
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normally i would say more likely to move up in first......but losing that 3rd round comp pick threw a wrench in beane's plan.
currently bills pick #28th. if we used our 2nd round pick (which is highly UNlikely) we could move up 11 spots, all the way to #17 (jax).
if we used a 4th round pick....you can move up 2 spots in the first (not much, but possible). a 3rd would have moved up 5 spots.
there is so much value in a 2nd round pick (talent/cap hit)...i cant see beane giving that away....if he did it would only be for a WR1 (preparing for life after diggs).
this year id say beane tries to use both his 4th's to move up in each of 1st & 2nd (BPA - WR1, EDGE, OL).....but stays at #28
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What happens to the PSL after 30 years ?
is it worth zero ? will they start a new PSL for renovations ?
i know the PSL has a life limit of 30 years which lines up with the bills new stadium lease for 30 years.
in an over simplification.....if you paid $30,000 for your PSL isnt it depreciating by $1,000 a year, so that after 20 years you go to sell it, there is only 10 years left on the PSL.....so might the approximate value be $10,000 for the remaining 10 years ? it's possible they appreciate, but i would think not in our market.
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initial cost estimate of new stadium $1.4 Billion
current cost estimate of new stadium $1.7 Billion
likely final cost estimate of new stadium $2.0 Billion
NY State Contribution $600 million (not part of that "construction costs" is an additional $280 million for maintenance over 30 years)
NFL & Bills Contribution $550 million (of which Pegula's portion is $350 million)
Erie County Contribution $250 million
SUB TOTAL Contribution $1.4 Billion (initial est)
Pegulas are responsible for any and all cost over runs....currently at $300 million and rising.
Projected to raise $200 million thru PSL's
so, if you factor in cost over runs....i say he will contribute $750 - $800 million or 35- 40%
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42 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:
Quick question that I hope you have the answer.
is there a set amount via the funding agreement with State/County/Bills that states a set amount that can raised via PSL? So a cap of say $120M through PSL purchase.
or is it the Pegulas have to fund say $500m( I don’t know the actual #) and if they can raise 100% of through PSLs, that ls great for them!
thanks
from everything i've read....
there is no "set" amount
they have stated publicly a target of $200 mil thru PSL's
there is no "cap" ....they are free to raise as much as they can
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Diggs traded to Texans for picks
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by papazoid
this is all approximate: not sure how this new bills contract money combined with his old minnesota contract
Stefon Diggs signed a 4 year, $2,507,713 contract with the Minnesota Vikings. YEARS 2015-2018 entry level
Stefon Diggs signed a 5 year, $72,000,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, and an average annual salary of $14,400,000. YEARS 2019- 2023
Stefon Diggs signed a 4 year, $96,000,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, an average annual salary of $24,000,000. with $70 mil guaranteed. YEARS 2024-2027
NFL is a semi-hard cap. you can spread out the cap hit over many years at different increments, but eventually you must pay in full.
from year to year they can play cap games like taking all the current year base salary and converting to signing bonus and push that into future years.
Diggs may or may not ever see the full $96 mil. he will get the full $70 guaranteed.
2020 the bills took a cap hit of $14.8
2021 the bills took a cap hit of $6.4 mil
2022 the bills gave diggs $24.5 mil in CASH. but only took a $11.7 mil CAP HIT charge. pushing theoretically $12.8 cap hit into the future.
2023 the bills gave diggs another $24.5 mil in CASH (now $49.0 mil in cash). but only took a $14.9 mil CAP HIT. pushing theoretically $9.6 cap hit into the future
2024 bills trade diggs to Texans. time for bills to pay up the past years team friendly cap hit bill. he was scheduled to count $27.8 on bills cap.
2024 texans will pay diggs $19 mil in CASH (now $67.9 total cash). Essentially there is no more guaranteed money remaining.
2024 bills are being charged $31 mil in DEAD CAP.