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  1. 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

     

    Seriously?   Clearly this was the best he was able to negotiate.  Considering Diggs nonsense on social media and desire to shred his contract so he can hit the market after next year....getting a 2nd is a good trade 


    Not to mention we gained a lot of future cap space. 

     

    beane got great value for a 1 yr rental

     

    this other discussion revolves around some who think that because it's a 2025 2nd round pick....that its only worth half as much as if it was a 2024 2nd round pick....which i do not believe

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  2. 35 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

    It's fine to have that opinion, but that line of thinking is quite different than many NFL GMs.

     

    Not only a year later, but depends how NFL GMs view next years potential draft class.  They're scouting ahead, and looking at team needs for this year and beyond. 

     

    I think any trade scenario discussed is possible (ie:move up in Rd 1 or Rd 2, acquire a 3rd Rd).  I am fairly confident that Beane will use Min's 2nd rd pick (2025) as a trade piece during this draft, or maybe I'm just hopeful. 

     

    Looking at 2025 cap/our situation, we should have the ability to acquire a decent haul in FA.  For 2024, I think we "need":  Boundary WRs (both high picks), S #3 that competes for starter role/ready to take over in 2025, DT (3 tech), and a 4th corner (outside).  RB2, DE and OL depth are nice to haves, but think we sign post June 1st (perhaps OL depth is primarily set)

     

    the only GM's who think this years 42nd pick is more valuable than next years 42nd.....is one who thinks he will be fired after this season and not around to use next years pick if his team doesn't improve this season. totally short term selfish reason....not in the best long term interests of the team

     

     

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  3. 4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

    Possibly.  My preference would be to move up into 35-40 range, from pick 60 in Rd 2, and get another highly graded WR (in addition to Rd 1)

     

     

    if your willing to trade your next years 480 points (2nd round pick) for my this years 220 points (3rd round pick)

     

    i'd do that every year with ya. to me this years 42nd pick is worth exactly the same as next years 42nd pick. 

  4. 8 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

    Usually a future pick (1 yr out) is projected as a mid rounder and value divided by 2.

     

     

     

    if that is true

     

    would you trade your next years 2025 @ 2nd round pick for my this years 2024 3rd round

  5. 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

     

    The Vikings and Houston Texans have agreed to a trade that nets Minnesota an additional 2024 first-round pick, 

    In the deal, the Vikings acquired the No. 23 overall pick in the first round and the No. 232 selection (seventh round).

     

    The Texans get No. 42 overall (second round), No. 188 (sixth round), and a second-round pick in 2025, per Rapoport and Pelissero.


    It would have been really nice if we got the 42nd pick this year in the deal....oh well 

     

    according to the draft value chart

     

    minn gets #23 pick in 2024 draft is worth 760 points

     

    hou gets #42 pick in 2024 draft is worth 480 points

    hou gets #188 pick in 2024 draft is worth 16 points

    hou gets #42 ?? pick in 2025 draft is worth 480 points (which could go higher if minn struggles with new qb) which they just gave to bills

    hou TOTAL POINTS is 976 vs the 760 they gave up

     

     

  6. 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I’m going tomorrow with no idea what we are going to do. There’s really 3 options and each has flaws. 1) East Club - heated, covered, most expensive. 2) Field Club - great location, less expensive, not heated or covered 3) Wait and slide into the corners somewhere. Hoping to still be covered but probably sacrificing heat and amenities. 
     

    I’ll report back with whatever I learn.

     

    what is the "fee" the bills PSL Agent charges to complete/record a "TRANSFER" of the psl from an aftermarket transaction.....the agreement does not say

  7. 4 hours ago, DaVinci said:

    Does anyone have an Idea of how much the Bills PSL sale will generate? Or how much past PSL sales from other teams generated and what the percentage of the total stadium cost was?

     

    The sale of Bills stadium PSLs are expected to raise between $100 million and $200 million, the News reported. 

     

    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2023/06/06/new-buffalo-bills-stadium-construction-is-underway-whos-paying-for-it/70290350007/

  8. 3 minutes ago, Einstein said:


    I can imagine! It's exactly what the Jets did. And the Falcons. And the Raiders.
     

     

    maybe the bills are trying to avoid that situation....

     

    and that is why they haven't announce PSL pricing ahead of time for every section.

     

    depending on how they do in the center section(s) between the 40 - 50 yard lines,  may make them raise or lower what they thought they would do for sections  between the 30 -40 yard lines.....and so on

  9. 34 minutes ago, Einstein said:


    Better yet, grab a PSL when the Bills cut the price in half - or when someone sells it on the resale market for penny's on the dollar.

     

    i don't think either of those things will happen anytime soon

     

    the bills would rather not sell a PSL seat to a STH for many years before they cut the price of a PSL in half and crash their own market. can you imagine the outrage finding out someone next to you paid less. they will just make unsold PSL seats available and part of the inventory that are sold as an individual game tix and hope to sell them as a full season,  the following year. don't forget that even before individual game tickets go on sale to the public, they are offered to STH first. one way or another.....every bills game will be a sellout for the foreseeable future.

     

    as far as a PSL resale market goes.....the chances of anyone deciding after just 5 years to sell their PSL's will be a very small number. anyone who might be in that position wont get them in the first place. those who do sell will likely do way better than just "pennies" on the dollar. most will be transferred to a family member.

  10. 5 hours ago, RunninRebel37 said:

    Now that Diggs is in Houston, WR is an especially big hole on this team. I'm personally in favor of utilizing the draft to shore this position up. Trading up for an elite guy (the most unrealistic option) such as Nabers, would be my ideal option, but even moving up a few picks into the early 20's for a Brian Thomas Jr. or AD Mitchell would work. 

     

    However - would anyone be interested in the Bills trading for an established player and allowing the draft to fall to them? If so, what WR's do you think would be possible, productive, and available?

     

    My vote would be Davante Adams. Per Spotrac he has a cap hit of just under 17 mil and an out in his contract after this season (voidable years I believe) that would help with the comp pick formula. Adams doesn't want to go through a rebuild with the Raiders (I'm in Vegas and this is a known "rumor") and wants to finally win. championship. Thoughts on this or any other WRs?

     

    don't see any way the bills have cap room to add a $17 mil player

     

    i see us using our first round pick on a WR1

    i see us using our second round pick on an EDGE......unless a BPA WR fell in our lap

    i see us filing out the roster with mostly veteran minimum type players

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  11. 20 hours ago, hikerprof2 said:

    I've never understood the "Diggs has attitude" narrative except from what I've seen: he hates losing.  I think we need more players like that, not less. And now we have none.

     

    Josh plays like he hates losing. Sometimes that leads to mistakes, sometimes heroics. But when we lose Josh isn't much of a leader. He develops that 1000 yard stare, that look like a kid you took off his Adderall and he just goes-blank. Not inspiring.  

    Our coach claps after every play, good or bad, and his main leadership style when we lose is-find someone to lay the blame on.  Still hasn't owned up to 13 seconds. I give credit to McDermott for bringing winning back to Buffalo and making us a playoff team. I'm not of the fire McDermott crowd because I don't have a better replacement. But if we win a Superbowl it's despite his leadership, not because of it.

    Matt Milano plays like he hates losing, but he's not vocal, Jordan Poyer also played like he hated losing, but he's physically done and gone.

    Von Miller isn't capable of playing like he hates losing anymore, though he had it once.

     

    The rest of our roster is made of above-average guys, but nobody exceptional.  Maybe our new CB, Douglas.  And I love watching the Bills win, and our winning seasons. I still have confidence there. But we are missing something to get us over KC and other teams are nipping at our heels.  I think we are going to miss Diggs, and it would have been better to have one more year of Diggs and a rookie late first round WR who upgrades Gabe Davis then expecting a rookie to come in and play like a top five league wide WR.

     

    If you're a "believe in the great white hope" Kinkaid that was a nice pickup, but he averages 9 yards per reception. He's not a game changer.  And Curtis Samuel is a slot receiver-which we finally developed in Khalil Shakir. Going into next year if we are lucky we will have a #2 receiver in our rookie, two exceptional #3 receivers in Khalil and Samuel, a #4 in Hollins, and two tight ends we don't know how to use.  The strategy to earn 11 yards per 3 downs (out to Kinkaid for 8, Cook runs for -2 to 1 yars as they know he is coming on second down, Josh has to bull ahead for 1-4 yards every 3 down) no chunk yardage, move down the field slowly- will get Josh injured and often leaves more room for offensive turnovers. It didn't work last year when KC at will can gain 20 yards a play.

     

    "attitude" directed at an opponent is one thing

     

    "attitude" directed at your own players, out in the open for all the TV cameras and fans to see, is completely another.

     

    the later type of attitude makes you a distraction.....not good.  

     

    not showing up to camp on time, cryptic social messages, showing up your QB on the sidelines by yelling at him......not good

     

    there's a time and a place to dissent, vent, suggest a better way.....privately, in team position meetings, etc....

     

    at some point the not good outweighs the good.....diggs went past that point

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  12. When the new stadium opens in the fall of 2026, those in attendance may notice that the seating concourse is a little steeper than the current stadium. This is due to the new seating setup at the new Highmark being angled at 34 degrees, compared to the current 28-degree design the Bills use. 

     

    With the new design, it brings fans closer to the game. Literally. The Bills say that fans who sit in the last row of the general concourse will be 54 feet closer to the field than they are at the current stadium. (which makes sense because there are less seats. where they grow the footprint is wider concourses outside the viewing area)

     

    https://www.wgrz.com/article/sports/nfl/bills/buffalo-bills-new-stadium-details/71-50e82fd3-1bf9-4adc-9592-3452bdc7f84d

     

    (i saw another article that said the new stadium will be 50 feet higher)

     

    https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-new-stadium-size-plans-seats-plans-highmark-stadium#:~:text=While the new stadium - expected to open,with deeper and higher seats (50 feet higher).

     

     

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  13. Additionally, the stadium will have a perforated multidimensional exterior skin that will prevent swirling winds from getting to the field level. The construction of the new stadium will also have concourses that are enclosed, protecting fans from the elements as they walk around the facility.

     

    i mean the rain always comes straight down in orchard park...right ?

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  14. The future 63,000-plus seat stadium will feature a canopy that will cover 65% of the seats and protect against wind and precipitation.

    (in the bills PSL agreement, it makes clear that seating capacity is subject to change)

     

    What are the chances the Bills will leave in the near future?

     

    When the deal was announced as officially completed in early April 2023, the documents included a non-relocation agreement that has language permitting the team from even considering a move. Specifically it says that the Bills shall not "entertain any offer or proposal to relocate the Team to a location other than the Stadium." If the Pegulas were to sell the team, the non-relocation agreement would apply to any new ownership.

    It also states in the document that if the team did try to leave Buffalo before the lease is up, the county or state could sue. While it is not impossible for the Bills to move based on the agreement, it is difficult and Poloncarz said that it should be the biggest takeaway from pages and pages of documentation.

    "The Buffalo Bills will be staying here, not only for the next few years during construction, but 30 years thereafter, so this lease secures them in our community until 2055," Poloncarz said.

     

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37773941/buffalo-bills-new-stadium-need-know

     

     

  15. 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    it will not be 63,000 STH.

     

    The percentage will be most likely be similar with no more than 56-57,000 STH - most likely capped at or below 54,000 or so.
     

    They will need a % for the other team and the NFL, they need an internal group of seats for groups/ charities as they provide that as part of the overall county agreement, they tend to have some seats for the halftime group - be it kids flag football teams or a band or color guards/troops.

     

    They will also want a contingency of tickets in the club areas to offer out to stadium sponsors to provide out each game - especially with fewer actual boxes for these groups.

     

    There will most likely be about 10,000 fewer STH in the new stadium - which is why the renewal rate of 75% is so important because if the renewal rate pushes up closer to 85-90% they have more renewals than seats for them once everyone gets a chance to pick seats.

     

     

     

    i suspect the renewal rate for club seat STH will be higher than 75% once they get their second chance meeting to secure tix in a less expensive area.

     

    the renewal rate for the lower bowl is where things will get interesting. if PSL prices stay high, i see alot of STH giving up their seats. if the bills adjust on the fly and lower the PSL price to something more reasonable, then they will have better success.

  16. 35 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

     

    My understanding is every seat will be a season ticket. But the new stadium will have expanded stranding room for individual sale.

     

    i keep seeing 62-63,000 seats with an additional 5,000 SRO (standing room only area)

     

    i can't get confirmation on if all 63k seats will be STH ?.....it's on my list of questions when i go thru the "experience"...i'll get back to you late next year..lol

  17. 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/why-did-texans-reduce-stefon-diggss-contract-from-four-years-to-one

     

    This has to be the dumbest reason, if true, for the Texans voiding Diggs final 3 context years, saying...

     

    "They want the best possible version of Diggs. They want none of the little things the Bills tolerated until it became one big thing."

     

    So they are basically saying Diggs is a diva and they don't want to upset "his highness." Good luck.

     

     

    kind of.....but if viewed from the position the texans only want a 1 yr rental. you're getting a highly motivated and happy  diggs playing for his next contract. (of course he could become unhappy not getting enough targets.....one can hope....lol)

     

    the dumb part for me is that they gave up a very early 2nd round Minnesota  draft pick for that 1 yr rental..... that's steep

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  18. Josh is absolutely the best single individual player in the league. but this is a TEAM game.....

     

    Unfortunately he is not surrounded by the best team or best coaching staff.

     

    he has improved every year talent wise, i expect the same this season.

     

    look at the difference with Joe Brady as OC in 2nd half of season....remarkable. now we have that for a full season

     

    they can truly spread the ball around without worrying about forcing things to diggs. look for all his other  targets to step up.

     

    the biggest difference this season will be LEADERSHIP. 6 of 8 captains from last year are gone. only josh and von remain.

     

    this is josh's team now.....he's ready......look out  NFL !

     

     

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  19. 2 hours ago, Turk71 said:

    I know it is total sacrilege to criticize Beane in any way but.......

    What an unnecessary disaster of a contract extension that was.

    Diggs was already under contract for 2 more seasons at only 14/per. It would have expired at the end of last season, the perfect time to say goodbye scott free just as his play and attitude took a nosedive off a cliff.

     They could have waited a season for the extension to see how they felt about it then, there was no urgent need to do it.

     Instead they paid him over $20 million more for the last 2 seasons than they would have. They guaranteed $70 million to an about to turn 30 immature malcontent, just when Allen was about to sign a huge 2nd contract. Now they are stuck with a $31 mil cap hit for nothing. Without the contract extension Diggs' cap hit this year would have been zero $0.

    That would have been $31 million more to spend in pursuit of a Lombardi. That's a ***** big mistake.

      It made no sense, was completely unnecessary, and turned out to be a complete disaster. You didn't need a crystal ball or ESP to see this as a possible result.  They also made no preparation or plan for this eventuality either.

    This isn't just hindsight, I voiced my concern at the time. 

     

    if you take the CAP HIT that buffalo used on diggs for each of the 4 years we had him 2020-2023 (the first 3 years were low) AND added in the $31 mil dead cap we  have in 2024.

     

    Diggs actual 4 year average with the bills was just under $20 mil......yep... thats a fair contract for both team and player for a 4x pro bowler.

     

    had diggs continued with us for the next 4 years (2024-2027) it would have averaged $19 mil (or 8 years at $19.5 mil/yr)

     

    i would not call that a disaster contract

     

    2020- $14.8

    2021-  $6.4

    2022- $11.7

    2023- $14.8

    2024- $31.0

    TOTAL - $78.7

    4 yr AAV- $19.7

     

     

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