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very good summary: N.F.L. and Players See Same Forest, Different Trees: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/sports/football/15nfl.html

party pooper......next thing ya know you'll say you can't turn $25,000 into $800 million

goal line?...that guy could score from the 10.....lol

FACT: Players get credited for a full season after being on the active roster (or on injured reserve or the physically unable to perform list) in three regular season games. you said "80 or so players go to training camp. 27 are cut before opening day. Few of those make another final roster. This happenes every year. They are counted in the "average career of an NFL player"." THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE !! https://www.nflplayercare.com/ http://blog.nflalumniassociation.com/2011/02/24/knowing-the-nfl-benefits-and-if-you-qualify/ argueing why players get cut is a waste of time.....there are many many reasons besides talent. specifically, someone who is almost or just as good is cheaper (dollars/value)and injuries(a player who is more talented , but can't stay on the field, gets replaced).

Players not in any hurry.... For veteran players, Ross Tucker says missing training camp is “the dream”. “People talk about it all the time: What is the hard and fast deadline?” Tucker asked. “Well, when a vast majority of your membership doesn’t really even want to go to training camp, they don’t want to go to two-a-days, ideally for them it would get resolved, I don’t know, August 10th. We have a week of free agency. Then August 17th we have two or three weeks of preseason and then play the season. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/13/for-veteran-players-ross-tucker-says-missing-training-camp-is-the-dream/

If the parties would rather take their shot for litigation, you could make them sit there forever and there still won't be an outcome," said Seth Borden, a labor law expert at McKenna, Long and Aldridge in New York. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6336516

that is correct.....and the players NEVER requested "binding" mediation...... LINK SAYS: U.S. District Court Judge Susan Nelson, who is presiding in St. Paul over the players' antitrust suit against the league, issued an order forcing the two sides to resume mediation beginning on Thursday in Minnesota and appointed Chief Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan to preside over the talks. The move was something of a win for the players' side since they wanted the talks to resume in federal court.

NOWHERE in your link does it say the players want BINDING mediation.....NOWHERE !!! ADAM SHEFTER SAYS: The NFLPA wants a court-supervised settlement discussion in Minnesota(WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY GOT)in which Nelson would appoint someone to lead talks that potentially could be more binding than any in Washington. (don't see how you call that a victory for the owners). again, there is no such thing as potentially "more binding" it either is fully binding or it's non-binding....there is no middle ground.

not one single player or union leader has uttered on or off the record they want BINDING MEDIATION.....you keep ignoring this FACT. your assertion the NFLPA or current trade association wants binding mediation is FALSE. the court can not FORCE an agreement. once an agreement is reached a court can "enforce" it, like any other contract between two parties. both the owners and players would want a court to "enforce" a contract. neither party would want a court to decide the parameters of an agreement.

there is no link.....because the players have NEVER asked for "binding" mediation.

#1- the key word is NON- BINDING....."mediation" is NON-BINDING. #2- the players have NEVER asked for "binding" mediation. #3- there is no such thing as "more" binding.....your either pregnant or your not. it's either binding or non-binding....there is no middle ground. #4- i agree, all the more, parties must now act in good faith, or future rulings may not go their way. #5- let's say the court in two weeks, declares the leagues "lockout" illegal......both sides still have to negotiate a settlement. #6- lets say the NLRB rules the unions decertification is a sham......both side still have to negotiate a settlement.

The average career length of an NFL player is just 3.4 years because of the physical toll on their bodies. Almost two-thirds of NFL players suffered injuries during the 2010 season, a significant jump from the previous eight years, according to the NFL Players Association (NFLPA). The report also shows the severity of injuries increased in 2010, with 16 percent of all injuries requiring placement on the injured reserve list, which means the player cannot play for the rest of the season. We’re talking about more than 350 players going on injured reserve during the course of the regular season http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/02/01/nfl-players-injuries-reach-new-highs-in-2010/ how many players get cut due to injuries?.....can't seem to find a new team and fade away.

link ?

lol.....so you have no source.......stop using the word BINDING.....the players are NOT going to give up their collective bargaining rights by submitting to BINDING mediation. they are looking for the most advantagious venue to discuss the issues. that is thru the anti-trust Tom Brady et al litigation in a minnesota court thru NON-binding mediation....just like last time, those negotiations led to a settlement. there is no agreement ENFORCED by the courts....Nelson's involvement won't be binding, but she would have more ability to control talks than Cohen could, while overseeing an appointed mediator. First, with Nelson overseeing the talks, only she and Boylan could declare an impasse. Second, as the sides agreed on individual issues, she or the appointed mediator could move each one off the table, making for a more efficient process, without allowing one side or the other to go back on something that was already agreed upon. In any case, if mediation fails and Nelson rules, no matter which way that ruling goes, an appeal would be a near certainty, taking this case to the eighth circuit.

show me one quote from a NAMED member of the NFLPA showing they want BINDING mediation....you can't. "more binding" from a pundit does not equal BINDING MEDIATION......stop making stuff up.

#1- the players never asked for BINDING mediation. (your first statement is FALSE) #2- the players wanted mediation in a minnesota court and NOT with George Cohen (even tho he had a 17 day head start). the players got BOTH their wishes. (thats a victory for the players). #3- the judge said she still is considering whether to grant the players' request to lift the lockout that's been in place for a month. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/04/11/mediation.ap/index.html#ixzz1JGsbtDV6

players score another victory..... U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson said formal mediation will begin Thursday before Chief Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan at his office in a Minneapolis courthouse...... ( not Cohen in D.C.). http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6330778

just saw a QB accuracy skills competition yesterday with moving targets at 20, 30 & 40 yards...Mallet won.... has a rocket for an arm......he's not gonna be there at #34.

Judge Nelson will order the league, players to return to mediation On Sunday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter has reported that Judge Nelson told the two sides that she will impose mediation on them “early this week.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/10/judge-nelson-will-order-the-league-players-to-return-to-mediation/

just saw on TV a QB accuracy competition.....Mallet won it......locker second, dalton third.....only caught the tail end , don't know who else was in it....but mallet has a rocket for an arm.

i would only buy a name of a player who is already on the Wall of Fame......otherwise you'll be buying a jersey often.

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Boies makes compelling case for using Cohen as mediator: “There are substantial reasons to have these issues addressed in the context of a mediation conducted by the [Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service],” Boies writes. “As Your Honor probably knows, the NFL and NFLPA spent 17 days in FMCS-supervised mediation, during which time the Director of the FMCS (himself a Presidential appointee) and his principal deputy gained a thorough and detailed understanding of the many issues that must be resolved. Put simply, the FMCS has a 17-day head start over any other potential mediator. And given that time is of the essence, that is of great importance.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/08/boies-makes-compelling-case-for-using-cohen-as-mediator/