Magox

It´s going to be up to Romney to make this logical argument in a way that most independents will be able to understand.. And everything I have seen out of Romney makes me believe that he can. Having said that, I´m listening to some of these extreme right wing kooks, and the disdain they have for Romney. I just hope they decide to go out and vote for Romney in the general elections, my guess is that they will, but damn their dislike for Romney is evident, and it wouldnt surprise me that more than what I anticipate decide not to participate in the elections. But again, I´m guessing their hatred for Obama will trump their dislike for Romney enough to go out and vote.

How pathetic does the REST of the GOP field sound, when criticizing Romney for his ¨¨firing¨¨ people comment? They sound like a bunch of liberals. Thats what you want in a president, someone who is going to make the cuts necessary to make the system flow more efficienty and guide us to a direction where demand dictates jobs. Plain and simple

I read a charles lane WAPO article talking about this subject morning. That panel has concluded The latest authoritative warning came last week from the California High-Speed Rail Peer Review Group, which called the program “an immense financial risk” for the state and refused to recommend that the state legislature sell $2.7 billion in bonds to start a 130-mile initial stretch of the system. Yet the president said Yet So, we all know that there were many red flags with Solyndra and now with this highspeed rail, and they are gonna simply ignore it. Why? well we talked about this many times here before, the president is an idealogue, idealogy trumps logic. He wants green energy and high speed rails so badly that they ignore all the warnings. If Obama was a venture capitalist, and was heading Bain Capital, they would of folded in the first 6 months.

No, the CRA was designed as just another ¨social justice¨¨ program that helped lead to financial disaster. And in regards to your comment regarding not forcing banks to lend money, thats bull ****, everyone knows that there would be blowback for those banks that didn´t comply, and it was only further reinforced in 99. Your link has absolutely 100% nada to do with what we are talkin about. Many causes are what led us to the financial shitstorm, but Youtube boy´s link is a strawman which at most played a .00001% role in the crisis. Yes, government housing policy wasn´t the sole factor, mortgage underwriters, failure of the ratings agencies, banks incessant desire to make money off of anything that moves with their insane exotic Las Vegas style betting mechanisms, low interest rate policies, repeal of GS, explosion of funds made available in mortgage bonds, greed greed greed. A number of reasons, but CRA is at the heart of the problem, because anyone who has the understanding of what transpired and has the ability to deduce the unfolding of the events understands that you have to look at the core of the problem, which was housing demand. This is a bubble that had been forming for many many years, sure it didn´t translate in prices, but the demand in homes was building up relative to housing affordability. So when the **** hit the fan, all those years of unsustainable demand, fueled by government housing policies unraveled.

Of course it was a gaffe on his part, simply because the optics of that comment fit right in with the caricature they will try to portray him as, which is the evil wall streeter who got rich off of the miseries of others. Having said that, the statement was taken totally out of context. http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/mitt-drops-the-fbomb-110153.html

we´re arguing two different things here. I was talking about gasoline, you are talking about natural gas, and yes I agree that there are many jobs to be had in the energy sector, and even more so if the EPA slows down their incessant desire to block these projects. I didn´t say that I didn´t support social safety nets such as unemployment benefits, just that they have to reform them. I can unequivically say without a doubt that the social safety nets that we have in place today, without reform is leading us into a permanent high unemployment society that will continue to rely on government handouts. We gotta address this issue. We would be wise to look back at some of the German unemployment reforms, that initially outraged their more liberal members of Bundestag, but at the end of the day produced great results that today, no one can deny. Think about this for a second, the work force has shrunk so dramatically from where it was three years ago, if you had the same work force we did back in 2008, the unemployment rate wouldn´t be 8.5% it would be 10.9% This is very very troubling. This means that people have given up or that they simply decided to suck off the tit of the American people. One of the two, thats is. Not good.

This is a point that I have made on this board more than a few times.

You had me through here. The rest was just something you spouted that makes you feel a little better.

Face it jw, you got nothin. mg

No, I would say this is an admission of not having a response. mg

You asked a question, and I simply answered it. Just because you don´t like the answer doesn´t make it any less true. And please, don´t lecture about substance and meaningfulness when your first response to this thread was Must of had a long night mg

Did I say that? Or are you just putting words in my mouth? mg

Simple, I´ve made this point many times before, Fox news is the counterweight.

The AP is notorious for this sort of bias, just ask John W. how many of their journalists they hired to fact check Sarah Palin´s first book and how many they hired to cover the flailing economy back in 09. Some good ****

Which isn´t nearly as much as all the lemmings of this world believe.

dude, relax

I agree, there definitely has to exist effective social safety nets. I suppose the problem is that we don´t want to create an entitlement society that is dependent of some of these programs, more so for the able working people. There has to be more reforms in our Social safety net programs.

bull ****! Its a trait sorta deal, people who go into journalism are people for the most part who sympathize with liberal philosophies, thats the answer, plain and simple. How do you go through life being so inept? You´re better than this No one who thinks rationally said only. Come on, lets stop the bull **** here, everyone with any sort of mental capacity knows that the media for the most part is sympathizes with the left. Just when I thought your posts couldnt get any dumber. Exactly sometimes idealogy trumps practical business sense. Give you a little example, I had a night club in South America, started off the tops in our city, had a group of friends that were DJ´s and etc. after a while, we basically put on the music that we wanted hear more so than some of the customers, end result, club went down in business because of what we desired to hear and dance to. Proof is in the pudding, this analogy works, look at FOX news, WSJ vs other media outlets when it comes to profitability. Case closed.

Birdog

The reason why we are exporting more gasoline now is because of a lack of usual demand, implying a weak economy. I also happen to remember mentioning that as the perception of the economy picking up, that would dictate the price of gasoline. In regards to the economy, without a doubt the data has been coming in relatively pretty good, but during this time of the year it is normal to see hiring surges and as GS points out, many of those jobs appear to be temporary. Ás others have pointed out in this thread, something that I had mentioned many many times before the actual work force has remarkably shrunken over the past three years. With all the government help with extending the unemployment insurance (which I dont happen to fully disagree with) there is no doubt that this is adding to those woes, and that is something that really needs to be reformed moving forward. We are helping create a society of people who would simply rather not work and recieve gov. funds to help them muddle through life. I know for a fact that there are many people who are without jobs, able to work, who simply aren´t actively looking very hard for a job, simply because they are able to get by with what they are receiving with foodstamps and unemployment benefits.

You think I'm here to defend Newt? I was drawn to this discussion because of you some how, some way, believing that Palin is a good presidential candidate. Her and Newt both are NOT appealing candidates for the general electorate. The only ones these two candidates appeal to are the hard righties. Newt is just the new flavor because well... Hes basically the only one left that isn't Romney. So far, from my perspective, the most disappointing part of this process has been the potential primary voters. Its beyond me how any sane person who doesn't want Obama in the White house wouldn't be behind either Romney or Huntsmann. They are the only two candidate that would stand a decent chance in beating Obama. That's alright,select idealogical purity, and we'll surely re elect President incompetent again.

Where do you come up with this stuff? "lacking substance" has nothingto do with the email findings? she lacks substance because well... she lacks substance. Her and Bachmann are one in the same, they stay on script, they repeat the same talking point over and over and there is nothing dynamic about them. They aren't the sort of people that SUBSTANTIVELY respond in a Q&A format. How can you not see this?? Well, whatever, what can you say,you are blinded by her idealogical chutzpah. That's all there is to it.

No, she lacks substance. She is a living walking talking point. I don't buy into other peoples ****, I make up my own mind. And Trump is a populist. And even though Paul Ryan is loved by the Tea party, trust me, he aint no Tea Party dude. Having said that, Paul Ryan would be an excellent future candidate for the presidency.

Please just stop!! just stop with the Palin crap, you sound loonier than the loons. And Trump winning as a third candidate???? In regards to Newt, substantively he has a lot to offer, but you guys have to be realistic, he carries more baggage than an airline attendant. The caricature of him has pretty much been set, the obstacle for him to repair that damage would prove to be too great.