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LOL. I was going to say the same thing. TO = Hall of Fame.

What exactly are we discussing here? We need to create a clear distinction between being a parent and disciplining your child and being a parent and beating your child to the point he passes out. The boundary/line between the two is clear, and I would hope doesn't need to be explained.

I completely agree.

Indeed. O/U on the amount of YEARS it takes Graham to reach DA's #'s from last season: 2 more years.

LOL. Your comment is abusrd. A grown man (ex-football player who's not an "average man" in terms of strength), beating the **** out of his teenage son is "understandable"? You need to get your head checked. So if one of the several body slams he gave his son resulted in a cracked skull and his kid being a vegetable or even dead, oh well, its understandable.

LOL. People on here ripping on his 40 time makes me laugh. Guy is an ANIMAL on the field. TJ Graham had a great 40. He's a little kitty cat on the football field though. Can't even run the correct route when it matters

Lmao

LOL. Considering the way players move around in today's NFL, i'm sure the same holds true for 99% of the players in the league.

i'd be extremely happy with Manuel. I'd take him over Barkley. 1. Geno......................................................2. Manuel; 3. don't bother drafting a QB.

Agreed. I'd say that 75% of that list aren't starters.

Trade up with whatever it takes to get to #3 and take Geno and never look back. I'd rather make a big splash and fail than to continue with this half-assed garbage we've been going through for the last decade, which has been a complete utter failure anyway.

I posted this elsewhere. Its brady

What confuses me about this thread is how some people here are "reading up" on these QBs now. Geno and Barkley have been playing for years. If you haven't watched them play for yourself and have to scramble to find articles on them, maybe you should just not post your opinion and spare the rest of us who have from this nonsense of Nassib being a better prospect than Geno. Some people don't watch college football - that's cool. But at least keep shut if you cant even form your own opinion w/o having to utilize Google.

RGIII wasn't exactly a can't miss. There were several questions about his experience and the scheme he played in. In 2010, RGIII was a nobody to about 85% of the population. That being said, his stock was definitely higher than Genos is currently due to RGIII explosion in 2011 winning the heisman

By "immeasurables" do you mean Syracuse running for nearly 400yds that game? Sorry, but bringing in a HC, OC, AND QB from the same college program would be an abomination. Syracuse isn't bama

seriously man, i don't get it. Looking at the draft order, lets say that the Raiders don't take Geno, the next viable team to draft a QB will most likely be the Cardinals at 7. If i'm Nix i go gang-busters calling the browns to move up from 8 to 6 and nab Geno. A move from 8 to 6 would probably cost us our 1st and 3rd round pick. Draft Geno and then go with the BPA available at OL/WR/LB in the 2nd round and this draft would be a MAJOR victory IMO. Our franchise would have a clear direction and a dynamic player in Geno and we can still address a needs in the 2nd and 4th rounds. Worst case scenario, lets say we have to trade up to 3, that would require at least our 1st, 2nd and a 3rd round pick the following season. Draft Geno and then fill a need in the 3rd and 4th round at OL/LB/WR. Obviously finding a trading partner can be difficult, but if Geno passes the Raiders I think the Browns would be a serious trading partner and a very viable option. For those who keep saying we have to keep all of our 6 picks b/c we have a lot of needs, do you think that all of those 6 picks will REALLY fill those needs ultimately? Hopefully 3 of them actually do, but realistically only 1 or 2 will..if we're lucky. Getting Geno would fill our most important need instantly.

Better career stats? Considering Landry Jones has 1 more season starting, sure..he has more YDS and TD's. Geno has a higher career comp %, Geno has a MUCH better TD/INT ratio, and higher QB ratings (whatever that's worth). Landry Jones is an INT machine, for college standards.

He was outshone by Nassib? How? Did you even watch that game? Nassib's completion % was 47.8 and he threw for a whopping 130yds against one of the worst defenses in all of college football. Syracuse had 369yds rushing that game! Lets not re-write history. Come on people.

At one point last year Geno threw 24 TD's in a row without an INT. Sit down and think about those numbers for a second. I don't care WHAT SYSTEM you play in with fancy WR that have rockets up their ass, you don't put up those numbers with luck or by "never" properly setting your feet in a 7 step drop. What a joke. Laughable. Other than being black i dunno. Maybe if Geno looked more like Matt Barkley he'd get more hype. I'm white, but I feel that black QB's still get lupped into 2 categories: RGIII (charismatic, great guy) or Jamarcus Russell (lazy and dumb)...there's no middle ground. Geno may not be RGIII, but he's no freaking Russell either.

Geno went 19-28, 201yds, 2TD, 0INT in that game w/ a 151 rating. Marrone sure "stopped" him dead in his tracks. The only reason you think Geno was stopped is b/c you're used to seeing Geno put up 400yds 4TDs every other game. What were Ryan Nassib's numbers that same game? 11-23, 130yds, 2TD, 1INT, w/ a 115 rating.

How many snaps from center did RGIII take? What about Kaep? Never properly setting his feet? ...LMAO. Imagine what #'s he would've put up if he actually did set his feet. Stop. Mark Sanchez took a bunch of snaps under center at USC. Lets draft his clone. LOL. This makes sense. So should ANYONE draft Geno b/c he lost to Marrone? So what you're saying is that he's undraftable. Gotcha. Actually, b/c Nassib beat Geno, Nassib is clearly > than Geno. Yes, that must be it.

i agree man. people who say "we need all our picks" we can't "waste picks" obviously can't see that years and years of picks have produced an eternal 5-11/7-9 team. We address the QB, and everything else will fall into place A LOT sooner than not addressing the QB. Again, Geno has everything you want from a QB prospect: 1. A great arm. 2. Good accuracy. 3. Mobile; not RGIII, but more like Aaron Rodgers with the ability to break a 20-30yd run if necessary - w/ease. 4. Coaches have raved about his football smarts. 5. Successful in College with sick stats over an extended period of time. Not a one year wonder. Best QB in this draft hands down. I don't give a sh*t what people say.

1. Its GENO 2. He will succeed in the NFL. There is nothing about his game that warrants thinking otherwise.

Lmao. That was great. If anything, we should draft a l tackle high and move Glenn to LG

Just make sure Nix is in the barn when you burn it down.