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blah, blah, blah....Kelso and Murphy are paid Bills employees (directly or indirectly). The bottom line is that the proof is in the pudding....he hasn't done it and until he does he be viewed as inept. Recall that just about every football analyst had him earmarked as a third or 4th round talent that would be a developmental, work in progress. The geniuses at One Bills Drive, those that have steered us to zero appearances in the playoffs for 14 years, who arguably are smarter and better versed than most of the league experts, picked him as their savior QB, 16th overall. Today, just about everyone would agree he has performed no better than a third or fouth round pick, and that he is a work in progress. You either make the plays or you don't. Period. So far he hasn't made his share of the plays. Buddy Nix needed to draft a QB the year before he drafted Manuel. However he got suckered by Fitzsimmons by giving him a big contract, and then watching him crumble on the field. (BTW Fitzsimmons was able to get to the bank to cash his check jsut fine). A sharper GM would have drafted someone in the year when all of those QB prospects came out. What about Whaley? Why pass up on Nassib last year? He looks a heck of a lot better than Manuel.Oh yeah, I forgot, One Bills Drive is smarter than evryone else, including Tom Caughlin (winner of some Super Bowls) !

Guess you missed reading this scouting report....oh well!

I was at the game Saturday night. Some observations. Manuel is just plain awful. He misses guys that are wide open, and leaves touchdowns on the field. He is no better than Fitzpatrick, and maybe worse. He just dosen't have it on a consistent basis. People say his completion percentage is low, but that's not the issue. It's not making the play when it counts. It's an inability to deliver a key pass in the end zone, or whereever on the field to make a play that counts. Yes, he does make some plays, but not consistently. Kelly had his share of gaffes but he consistently hit the big plays where and when it mattered. Tuel and Lewis are minor leaguers. Tuel has a propensity for making at least one very costly mistake per game. Again, its the lack of consistency that hounds him. Our offensive line play is horrible. We had a great line coach under Chan. Our line players seem to regress instead of improve.We have no push or muscle up front. All in all we look like a minor league team, coaches and many players. It will be a miracle to win more that 6 games this year.

Slice it or dice it anyway you want to.....EJ did not look good. He will never be mistaken for Jim kelly.

You don't call a pass from the one or two yard line with an inexperienced rookie qb. You have to put people in a position to succeed, not fail.

Lovie is a great coach. His players think the world of him, and would go through a brick wall for him. Think back to the Arizona game, when the Bears turned the game around with takeovers. That was the famous game, where Dennis Green had his temper tantrum, "we knew who the Bears are, we let them off they hook, crown their ass'. It was Lovie's coaching at work. He was directly responsible for those turnovers. How do I know ? I had it from the "horses mouth", specifically, one of the players who took the ball away in the second half that night. He told me all about Lovie's coaching. Secondly, I have seen his coaching, in person. Yes, that's right, I know Lovie, and a lot of his players, and I can tell you he is a hell of a coach. Put Chan with him and "goodnight Irene". Trust me, the Bears teams during the Lovie years had every ounce of talent squeezed onto the playing field. Oh, and furthermore, undisciplined players throwing punches, motion penalties, fumbling the ball in the last minutes of a game multiple times, and high penalty counts. No, you won't see that with a Lovie team. It would not be tolerated. Just watch.

After the knockout fumble by TJ Graham in the KC game, Morrone should have made eradicating such things his number one priority. Obviously, he didn't. The guy stands on the sidelines and paces up and down. Repeat screwups might require getting in someone's face. I wish he would take a look at Lombardi or Parcells game tapes. This team is underperforming and he is responsible. Get off your butt and demand better performance. Belichek just sat his running back for poor performance. After Chandler dropped three passes in the KC game he should have been on the bench. His failure to coach Chandler properly resulted in another subpar performance for him. This coach belongs with Chan, Dickie, and the rest of the no can do's !

I saw a highlight of Belichek talking to Brady about correcting his motion.....during a game.

Parcells would have gone ballsitic on him.....and sat his **s on the bench.Why not give that rookie a chance...he could not have done worse.

It was obvious to me that Tuel was not following through on his am motion when throwing. He kept floating the ball, and he was aiming his throws. This was as clear as day from the stands. Umm, flash to Marrone...get off your butt and go talk to your QB instead of standing on the sidelines looking like a stoic Wade Phillips !

I've seen dumb before but this takes a cake. You need a first down...two yards...fool !

Not only was it one of the worst trades made by any team, it signaled the start of the Bills' long demise as a team. By that time, Saban was gone, and Joe Collier, the Bills's defensive coordinator was named head coach. We were so bad under him that we became eligible for the first overall pick in the draft, chosing O.J. By the time we took O.J., Collier was gone, and we had Oakland's head coach. That was Al Davis's second fleecing of our team. Looking back on some of these things historically, one can see the start of a long series of poor decision making by Wilson, and his employees. The 70's were extremly painful, save a short time when Saban returned for his second stint. As a young teen-ager, I can vivdly recall Lamonica, and his slow, long release. However, he was very capable, and on many occasions Saban put him in games during the second half to "bail" out Jackie Kemp. That's exactly what he had the penchant for doing, and he was quite sucessful. There were many of us in the stands who believed that Lamonica deserved to be the starter. I'm still sick over the trade, and wince when I recall seeing him throw a bomb to Warren Wells, or Cliff Branch (I think I have their names accurately). On top of that I still gag when hearing Howard Cosell rave about him as the "mad bomber" ! It hurst to be a Bills fan!

Several twitter reports have Moorman signed.

Must have ball control. Keep the ball out of Brady's hands. Run the ball, and develope a good push from our offensive line. Be prepared for exotic blitzes that will attempt to confuse and fluster Tuel. Rely on quick, "west coast offense" type pass plays that are difficult to defend. Our slot receiver must have a good game. Keep an extra back in the backfield for blocking. Avoid hurry up offense and 3 and outs. The latter will fuel Brady, and quickly tire our defense. On the defensive side, you have to hurry and disrupt Brady. We will need Petine to be sharp with his blizt disguises. As always, when defending Brady his slot and tight end receivers are Bill killers. Slow them on the line.

I come to Buffalo 2x per year for Bills and Sabres games. Buffalo is my hometown so I am familiar with most areas. I think that the Hyatt in downtown is the best hotel in the area. If they are booked my second choice is the Holiday Express,and the Comfort Inn & Suites, both on Commerce Drive in Hamburgh, NY. The Holiday Inn express is only a few years old. I stayed there when it first opened a few years ago. I assume it is still relatively new etc. I also stayed at the Comfort Inn at that location. In fact, I am staying there again for the Kansas City game.

You miss the point and the relevant facts when you use statistics to compare QB's. It's not about completion percentage, or number of sacks per attempt(s), or yards per pass etc. Look at last year. Take two games, the Titans game at home and the Indy game on the road. I attended both games, which were both losses for the Bills. It's true that the Titans game was a disaster for the defense. It's also true that the Bills offense scored a bunch of points, and Fitz had something to do with that. However, what happened at the end of the game? An interception via a poorly thrown pass into a crosswind that Fitz had no business throwing. If you are old enough to have watched a real QB play, Roger Staubach, you know that that never would have happened with him at the controls. Where's your stat for that? Second. During the Indy game, Fitz had receivers open all day on long streak patterns. Yet he under or overthrew them every time. He left at least 21 points on the field with his poor arm. That is the story of Fitzpatrick, his terrible erratic arm. Overall, throughout his tenure, Chan Gailey's offense had guys open on deep routes lots of times, but Fitz could not consistently deliver. Yes, he made those throws several times, and indeed, at times, many throws were excellent and on the money, but you could not count on him through thick and thin, not like a 'real" QB. Believe me when you sit in the stands of the "old rockpile", and watch a master consistently place the ball, long, short and intermediary, on the fingertips of his receivers, you know who is in the HOF for a reason. Yes, i'm talking about Joe Namath. By the way, I never remembered Namath leaving points on the field due to an errant pass. Ditto Lenny Dawson, another HOF guy. Oh, and one more thing. The measure of a great QB ? Winning ! Fitzpatrick not. Namath and Dawson yes. Enough said.

I found this and thought Bills fans might fan it illustrative.The website is Bleacher reports, and its listed under EJ Manuel video highlights from former Florida State QB

He didn't coach in Cleveland. Everywhere he coached he has won. Do you realize he has a 161-111 won record ! I don't care how he has won. I don't care if he won due to a great staff, or having fat cheeks. The fact is he is a winner, something we need around here. He didn't coach in Cleveland. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I see a Super Bowl ring on one finger from Green Bay, and two others as Offensive Coordinator from San Francisco. Furthermore, teams dumping coaches is no criterion for judging the value of a coach. The man also took Seattle to a Super Bowl berth.

He might be yesterday's coach, but he is a winning yesterday's coach ! Stop and thing what he brings. We need new QB's. Who is going to develop them? We need a proven winner to bust though our culture of losing.

We have at least two special circumstances that have to be addressed in a new coach. Of course we want a good leader, and overall football guy. But wait. We just don't have a losing team. We have a "culture of losing". If you will, a "mentality of expecting to lose, and being losers", that must be overcome by a new head coach. It's not simply poor players, and poor coaching, and a matter of upgrading both. We need a head coach who brings with him a "degree of instant respectability" that players will "buy into". We must have a coach who expects to win because he is a winner. In that regard, names like Jimmy Johnson, and Bill Cowher make alot of sense. But those guys won't come to Buffalo, and besides they claim they are retired from coaching. The second thing we need in a head coach, given the fact that we must draft 1-2 QB's, is a guy that will properly develope a system for these new guys. In that sense, Lovie Smith, a great defensive minded coach, would not work for us. So who is out there that would bring instant respect, is a proven winner, and can develope a system that would bring young QB's along ? Mike Holgrem. I don't think that there is anyone else out there who brings the aforestated to the table. Hiring him makes the best sense, since he says he wants to return, is out of a job, is a proven Super Bowl winner (3 rings, two as San Fran offensive coordinator, one as head coach Green Bay) might see Buffalo as a challenge, developed QB's Steve Young, and Brett Farve and is likely going to be overlooked by other searches. If he could fall to us, it just might be the answer for our team.

Remember the Bears- Arizona game on Monday night football. You know the game. It produced the famous Coach Dennis Green comment...."crown their ass...we know who they are". That was the game when the Bears whipped the Cardinals in the second half, taking the ball away several times. Remember ? Ever see a Bills team do that ? Take it on faith, because I know that the outcome of that game was directly, and I mean directly, the result of Lovie's coaching ! Lovie teaches ball hawking, stripping the ball, its in his DNA etc. His teams are always competitive to the extent of the personnel he has on the team. There is no underachieving, no where's Mario, no where's Dareus etc. Indeed, he is able to squeeze the talent out of every guy he has. But that dosen't mean he has all the talent in the world. His offensive line is a mess, a mixture of rejects and hand me downs, with the exception of Carmini. He has never had a 1-2 set of receivers. Look what he did for Melton on the defensive line. Look at Peppers, a high priced free agent, that has produced big time from day one. The same for Urlacher who is on his last legs. How about Charles Tillman? A no name now all Pro. Look at Jennings. By the way, I am in Chicago, and know for a fact that his players, unlike Chan, love him, but will play like they love him....they walk the walk!

Lovie has the personnel for, at best, a 9-7 team, maybe a 10-6 team. His offensive line is terrible. His players play their hearts out for him. He coaches turnovers, and taking the ball away. Lovie is behind guys like Charles Tillman, and others going to the Pro Bowl. You won't see underperforming guys around here anymore.

You won't be giving up 250 yards on the ground or 50 points a game.....but he needs help with offensive coaching....

Sirius XM, the NFL station, replayed many of their preseason training camp visits over the holiday. I caught Pete Caroll being interviewed about Russell Wilson. He was asked several questions about why the Seahawks drafted him. Mind you this interview took place some time this summer, well before the season was underway.Talk about being on top of Wilson's attributes. He described this guy to a "t", as if he had a crystal ball, being able to detail how he commands his team, has wonderful leadership capapbilities, and many times took his team down the field as a game closed out. Essentially, he said he had excellent football instincts, and was the kind of guy they wanted. They were sure he was the QB they wanted. But wasn't he "too short" he was asked. No, he stated, he was able to overcome that by being able to find passing lanes. He said he played behind " a huge offensive line " in college, and only had 4 passes batted down all year. He concluded by saying his GM was "all over" Wilson before the draft ! Oh, and by the way, he also stated that he kept pressing for the Marshawn Lynch trade, and he kept bugging his GM on a frequent basis until they got the trade. Oh well, we have Buddy at the wheel making our decisions!

Anyway you slice, dice, or cut it, Fitzpatrick is made to choke. No matter how good he played throughout the game, when the chips mattered...well,...you slice, dice, or cut it, and he choked. This team will never, ever, go anywhere with him. Want more proof ? It took Buddy getting in his "face" this week talking about drafting a QB to get him to wake up. But for that, he likely would have thrown more pics, or fumbled more. Go ahead slice it.....