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It's official.......Shady is nursing a hamstring already.
Oh, gawd, Here We Go Again. Karlos really is key
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I do agree with you that Nix/Whaley were not aggressive in pursuing qb options from the draft or from the market. What I see is that the failure was not how he handled Fitz (I have no problem with it and you do) but the failure was not having a plan in place before he made his decision on Fitz. Strategic thinking certainly wasn't a hallmark of Nix and the organization. What should have been a priority pursuit was a secondary issue.That is more of a main issue for me than the issue of Fitz, a middling qb. i.e. getting a more credible qb. Apparently Nix felt (and maybe Whaley also?) that it was more important to bolster the roster in general before addressing the qb position. (I heard him say that on WGR on more than one occasion.)
Are the Jets taking taking a risk with their paltry offer to Fitz. Yes, and I have said so. That doesn't mean that they don't have a backup plan that you or I are aware of. I'm not even sure what Elway's plans are for qb for his SB team. What appears to me is that the Jets have made a basic calculation that they are willing to pay Fitz to his talent level. Evidently it isn't too high.
Hmmm, progress. We may be closer than I thought. I don't have a problem with how Nix handled Fitz per se, but rather with how he handled Fitz in the context of overall organizational decisions and the priority assigned to the QB position. (Nix obviously had a plan in place, I just look at it and say "that's a Really Bad Plan"). Can we agree that Nix's whole approach to the QB position was flawed and thus he doesn't represent a good benchmark for assessing QB value?
The Jets may have a super-secret backup plan, but in today's QB market, it's totally fair to ask "WTH is it then?"
It sounds like where we fundamentally disagree is that to you, the Jets contract offer is all calculating Fitz value and paying him proportionately. I think the Jets salary cap situation has a lot to do with it.
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My point is that the Bills had signed Fitz to a rather (at the time) expensive, middle-of-the-pack starting QB contract and Nix's statements made it clear they were going to require him to take a pay cut because in their opinion he wasn't playing to the level of that contract. If you have been the starting QB and you see the words on paper that your GM will be asking you to "do something" because you are "fighting for probably a backup job" I think that goes a long way towards making your decision for you.
My point is that 1) when Nix calls you or your agent and says "the organization needs you to take a pay cut"( with explanation) then Fedexs over a new contract with lower $$, and then 2) the new coach announces in the media you will be in "open competition" with a chap who just signed for about 1/10th of your salary, you've already seen plenty of words on paper and you already know what you need to know about your position in the organization. Then you will make a business decision based on the details of the contract, whether or not the Bills are willing to negotiate on any of your sticking points (evidently, they weren't and didn't), and what you and your agent think you can get for your services elsewhere.
You don't need a Catfishing phone call to make your decision. That's just food for the press and the fans.
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I respectfully disagree. I hope we go 14-1 and lock up home field advantage, and EJ gets the start in the meaningless finale against the Jets.
Oh, your version wins! I guess that kind of optimism has been beaten out of me. But I love a good delusion as much as the next guy!
I love you both. You're making me feel all....Hopeful. (but you're still not getting my Bud lite)
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Undersized LB when placed in the game will create an offensive adjustment and they will cram the ball right at him. We have all seen how this plays out before.
43 is the Mike?
I do think Striker is a guy who plays bigger than his size and more effectively than his measurables. One of these "can't measure heart" guys.
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Hopeful. i think you might have realized by now, i think about some things in general terms. and file them that way.
When you speak about the context in regard to the Bills Fitz relations at the end , that is my basic rendering.
Thanks for helping clarify a part of My Bills fanhood that i had shut away from my mind. sometimes remembering the past is painful.
as a Bills fan i mean
You're welcome - I think? I kind of feel I've been thanked for sticking an old fashioned lancet into a pus-filled boil just beneath your left shoulderblade. It had to be done, but it hurts, and that's some stench.
It's very hard to be a Bills fan and be....Hopeful.
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I appreciate the effort you took to research Fitz's contracts. But my basic point is simply that I don't believe Fitz is a starting caliber qb and I don't disagree with the Jets' position of establishing a low baseline commensurate with his talent level.
You pointed out that Nix took a cap hit on his scattered armed qb. So essentially he decided to take a cap hit rather than pay Fitz a little more. What does that say about Nix's assessment of Fitz as a qb and to his value to the team? His recorded phone discussion bluntly indicated that he didn't have much regard for his qb.
Are the Jets taking a major risk in this game of chicken with Fitz? Yes, because so far they don't have a viable option heading into the season. But that in itself is an indication that they are willing to take the risk of having a major void at qb rather than pay him at what he is asking for, which in itself is not much for a starting qb. Again, another indication of how much he is valued as a qb talent. That's my central point.
You are using Nix assessment of Fitz' value to the Bills as a QB to justify both the Jets holding a hard line on Fitz contract, and your position that the Jets offer is motivated by and aligned with an appropriate assessment of Fitz' talent level. My point, which seems to be being missed, isn't just that Nix "took a cap hit" in cutting Fitz. It's that Nix cut Fitz then wound up paying more money for what many would consider less value at the QB position - Kolb, TJax, Manuel, Lewis, and Tuel in 2013, PLUS a big cap hit.
You need to look at the whole CONTEXT of Nix handling of the Bills QB situation. When one does, it seems pretty evident that Nix showed pretty poor judgement overall (not drafting, Fitz big contract, drafting in a poor year, releasing Fitz, who they signed and for what, etc). In the context of Nix overall handling of the Bills QB situation, his assessment of Fitz appears most flimsy as a justification for the Jets contract offer to Fitz. Nix, taken as a whole, dreadfully mishandled the Bills QB situation both from a talent and a value perspective.
The Jets just might be doing the same. Or they might not. But you can't use Nix's judgement as justification for the Jets' judgement without opening the books on the full context of Nix's judgement and who replaced him.
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The real question is, is starting Geno worth the 12 million dollars in savings?
Ha! There is no $12M in savings.
The Jets have $3M in cap space. Pundits were speculating that after picking Hackenberg, the Jets would only offer Fitz a 1 year deal but he would want 2 or 3. That's bass-ackwards. The real reason the Jets won't accept Fitz counter to play on a 1 year contract for $12M is because THEY"RE BROKE. They can't do it. They need him to take something like $3M salary and $9M bonus spread over 3 years, 'cuz they got Revis and Wilkerson counting $34M against the cap just for 2 guys. They have to cut someone even to pay Fitz $12M this year as they reportedly offered.
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You are making too detailed of an analysis of Fitz and the contracts he has garnered from the multiple teams he has played for. The general conclusion and observation I take away from his contracts is that he is not a well valued qb, and never has been. It's as simple as that. He is not a franchise qb from a talent standpoint. He has been a vagabond qb for half a dozen teams who after a short stay moves on to his next stop.
Fitz had a good statistical year last year. So what! Does it represent his talent level and body of work? Absolutely not. It was an aberration, not his usual standard. Fitz's last game in Buffalo that eliminated his team was a performance that Buffalo fans are well acquainted with. Do you believe that the Jet front office after watching that Fitz horrifying performance that sabotaged their playoff chances decided to be more committed to him and have it reflected by their contract offer? Let's get serious here.
People are now criticizing Nix for his contract stance on Fitz which resulted in his departure. There is a lot of things to criticize him for but I'm not going to criticize him for taking a common sense position on offering a mediocre qb a contract commensurate with his talent lvel.
Were the Bills a better team with or without Fitz? Who gives a dam about that meaningless question! Because with Fitz you still go nowhere. So why not try another option? If it doesn't work out, then try another option. Overpaying for someone who is not going to lead your team to anywhere consequential is pointless. So on this issue Nix was right on how he handled Fitz.
I don't know if the Jets and Fitz will get a deal done. However, I understand their position and find it to be reasonable. The fundamental issue is paying a player commensurate to their talent level. That is what they are attempting to do here for a player where there is no other market interest.
ROTFL! John, you are just too much sometimes. You asserted that Fitz played for the Titans for less money, and asked if anyone knew what he'd played for at the Titans and what the Bills were said to have offered him. I answered. I guess it might kill you to acknowledge a factual point?
As I recall, you seemed to be holding up Nix and his contract negotiations (or hard line) with Fitz as an example of good personnel management in cutting Fitz when he wouldn't re-negotiate for whatever they offered him. The point isn't and wasn't to offer a detailed analysis of Fitz and his contracts. What I wrote (did you even read it?) was an analysis of what cutting Fitz (and signing his replacements) cost the Bills - most of the information there is on what QB cost THE BILLS.
Given what the Bills had tied up in dead cap, payments to QB who never played, and payments to QB no better and arguably worse than Fitz, it's really tough to make an argument that the Bills made a wise personnel decision. That's the question: not whether the Bills would have been a better team with Fitz in 2013 and 2014 than without him - but whether pointing to Nix and the Bills negotiations as "common sense" football/financial judgement by a GM (and by extension, pointing to the Jets not-dissimilar situation as "reasonable" football/financial decisions) is a logically defensible position.
I think that's a rough position to back. You're welcome to disagree, or to ignore what I post, or whatever, but for gosh sakes, if you're going to respond, at least respond to what's written, don't pop up straw men that weren't actually being argued then regurgitate the same-ol same-ol.
Maybe not for you but for plenty of people you don't have to go into statistical minutia to recognize mediocrity. If you can't handle that simple concept then that is your problem.
You know, John, I do go into statistical minutia at times - that's a fair cop. But actually, the post to which you responded saying it was "too detailed an analysis" (and drew a reaction) contained no statistics at all, let alone statistical minutia.
"I know I'm right so I'll put you down as too detailed, too full of statistical minutia, or whatever else occurs to me whether or not it actually applies to your argument" is not very persuasive, y'know?
the only thing i don't understand about this argument is how anyone here cares enough about it to stretch it to 43 pages???
It's the off-season and I find discussions of Rex and his defense too painful to contemplate. It's the football off-season equivalent of poring over what color to repaint the kitchen when you know damn well your roof is leaking, you suspect one of the trusses is damaged, and it's not clear how you'll manage the repairs.
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I was seriously hoping a 320 pound OL would accidentally knock him into the bleachers......
Is there something wrong with me?
No
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it wasn't that long ago - like within the last 4-6 months. I think it was a Carucci/Graham or Dunne podcast or Sirius radio spot. I think it was either after the season or leading up to one of the Fitz matchups. I will look when I get a chance. Though I don't know if it contradicts what he said about having Fitz compete with TJax. Just that he was looking forward to coaching Fitz and expected to have him.
If it's recent, it sounds a little revisionist. If you got a QB due $10.4M and you start talking about having him compete as a starter with a $1.75M guy, you can't as a coach realistically expect to have him around without he's willing to take a cut.
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I think it's the party line because it makes the most sense. Hearing your GM say the actual words on a taped phone call is different from hearing your front office talk about drafting a QB for the future.
In case you've forgotten, here's what Nix said:
"We're still struggling here with our quarterback...We're not really struggling—he's going to have to do something, or we'll have to."
More Nix on Fitzpatrick: "We just can't afford to pay that kind of money for a guy who's fighting for probably a backup job."
Fitz saying the call wasn't a factor is just Fitz being a stand-up guy.
We might have to agree to disagree, eball. I understand your viewpoint, but I think the call supports the hypothesis that it was a business decision for Fitz to move on from the Bills. I think Nix's phone call telegraphs that the Bills were (like the Jets are) taking a hard line with the contract they offered Fitz. The Bills asserted they offered Fitz 4 years, $3M a year. Let's parse that out in terms of the above:
"Fighting for probably a backup job" = no or little guaranteed money. Why would you offer a guy "fighting for the backup job" any guaranteed money?
Who was he fighting with? Likely TJax. = likely offered similar$$, $1.75M that year with incentives.
Keep in mind it wasn't just talk of a QB of the future. Fitz had already heard Marrone say that there would be an "open competition" between himself and TJax to start, then Nix started talking about drafting a guy in the 1st round. The league standard is 1st round draftees are expected to start, not sit. I don't really think there was anything that different in the phone call, except that if I hear "fighting for a backup job" and see no guaranteed money, I start thinking that it's not in my financial best interest to stay through training camp and maybe get cut and have trouble finding a job just before the season, vs. going to the owner's meeting and shopping around. And he did get guaranteed $$ from the Titans, and (taking the Bills at their word) slightly more money or (guessing his first year offer was TJax like) about 2x as much.
I don't think Fitz is the guy who would have let bruised pride stand in the way of a very good chance to start and a contract he saw as fair.
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So per that link, Fitz's agent told the Jets he's willing to play on a 1 year for $12M, and the Jets won't take it?
They're nuts.
Oh wait, they're broke
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He hasn't been suspended before but Goodell could consider some of his earlier issues as strikes.......the most eggregious perhaps being the accusation that he beat down a woman on a party bus a few years ago.
If I recall correctly, the woman in the "party bus" incident sent a text message to a friend stating "LeSean didn't touch me physically". But yeah, we agree about Sikurski's non-point. McCoy should obviously follow his lawyer's advice, "no comment" the bar or any other incident to reporters, and stick to talking about football.
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it is interesting. But, I do remember Marrone saying something to the effect of being surprised when Fitz was cut and that he was under the impression when he was hired that was going to be his QB.
I don't remember that at all; any chance you could find it? I remember the TJax re-signing, and Marrone announcing that there would be an "open competition" at QB between Fitz and TJax. Since Fitz was due to be paid $10.4M and TJax was signed for $1.75M, that's not exactly what you announce if you're "under the impression ........ is gonna be your QB". That, and your GM announcing the team will draft a QB, are hardly a recipe for "being surprised" at a cut.
After the Nix phone call Fitz was pissed that he was not going to be the starter long term.Fitz left us as much as we him.
That's been the "party line" around here, but what evidence, really, is there to support it? Fitz has said on the record that the phone call wasn't a factor. Before the Catfishing phone call, the Bills signed TJax and Marrone announced "open competition" between TJax and Fitz, while Nix stated they would draft a QB. It hardly needed Deadspin publishing the Nix call for Fitz to know the Bills wanted him to either step up or move out.
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This is good information. I always wondered why they thought Kolb would be a better alternative than Fitz outside of cost. I hated the Kolb signing, but if this were true, at least it had some reasoning behind it.
Just to clarify, it's speculation...it's fact that Marrone used a WCO and Fitz previously played for Cincy and StL - I believe both EP offenses. But it's speculation that Marrone wanting a WCO guy was a factor.
Also clarification : I'm saying is that I don't think Nix and his handling of Fitz and his contract should be cited as an example of a team making smart talent evaluation/contract decisions. I am not saying that Fitz should have been kept - that ship has sailed years back. Just that from an analysis of the money we ate and paid to other QB (some of whom never played a snap for us), it's hard to construct an argument for it as a smart example of a team taking a hard line in a contract negotiation.
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Oh, I know the Philly PD is pissed. Too bad though. After over a month under AG review and after 4 months since it happened, and still nothing, I won't assume, I'll say it's dead. At least from a criminal standpoint. Whether the officers proceed with a civil trial is anyone's guess, but they have no evidence to prove that Shady caused their injuries. Because if it did, he'd have been charged well before now.
In a "hot button case", review can take longer than a month. If your argument is, were there clear evidence of malfeasance or failure to prosecute a clear winnable case on the part of the DA, the AG would have moved by now, I agree. But from the viewpoint of exposure to legal risk, you can say it's dead all you like, but the correct decision for Shady is still to STFU about it. 'Cuz the fat lady ain't warbled and it's not dead yet.
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Buddy Nix required Fitz to take a pay cut when he didn't have a viable option. Fitz declined and went on his way and I believe played for much less. (If you have the figure that Nix offered Fitz and what he eventually signed for with another team I would appreciate it. )
People keep bringing up the Nix thing and I'm not sure it's a great comparator: one often overlooked factor is that the Bills new coach, Marrone, was bringing in a WCO. I don't think it's a stretch to believe Marrone may have lobbied for a vet versed in WCO terminology (I believe Fitz has been an Erhard-Perkins guy all his NFL life, the other major offensive terminology in the NFL) - that would have been Kolb. So the Bills decision re: Fitz may well have been a football decision, not solely a financial one. They may also have believed that EJ was closer to NFL-ready than he was.
The other reason why the Nix/Fitz negotiation may not be a great comparator: since then the Bills have arguably payed a lot of money for worse QB play.
In answer to your question:
No one from Fitz camp has ever revealed what the Bills offered Fitz. The Bills put it out that they offered him a 4 year contract "averaging $3M a year with the chance for an additional $4M in incentives". The devil is in the details: was anything guaranteed, and what was the first year's salary? Usually 4 year contracts escalate considerably as they advance, and the first year is low. One rumor is that the Bills wanted him to play for TJax money with nothing guaranteed in 2013 (that would be ~$1.75M). They could cut him the day before the season and owe nothing.
The Titans signed him for 2 years, $6.5M - which is more than the Bills say they offered, not less. Fitz was paid $3.3M by the Titans in 2013 and the contract included guaranteed money (a signing bonus of $1.75M since the Titans carried dead cap of $.875M on Fitz when they cut him next year). I think that forms a reasonable estimate of what Fitz would have been willing to renegotiate. Thus the Bills claim that they offered him 4 years, $3M/year suggests that there was something in the structure of the contract that paid less than $3M in 2013 and/or nothing guaranteed.
The Math of Fitzsnippage by the Bills:
2013
Before Fitz was cut, he was due $3M in roster bonus and $7.4M in salary. He cost them $4M in dead money in 2013 and $7M in 2014. 2013 Fitzsavings: $6.4M (or, paying him $4M for not playing)
TJax was signed to $1.75M that spring, $.500M signing bonus lost when he was cut before training camp. 2013 Fitzsavings: $5.9M Payment for a guy who never played: $.500M
Kevin Kolb was signed to 2 yr/$6.1M with a $1M signing bonus and $2 M salary/roster & workout bonus. 2013 Fitzsavings: $2.9M. Payment for a guy who never played: $3M (likely injury guarantee).
EJ Manuel 4 years/$8.8M fully guaranteed with $4.8M signing bonus and $0.4M 2013 salary. 2013 Fitzsavings: $-2.3M
Jeff Tuel was signed to 3 year/$1.5M. No signing bonus (I think) 2013 Fitzsavings: $-2.8M
Thad Lewis was traded from Detroit. Couldn't find info but 4th year player had to be paid $.630M vet minimum in 2013. Fitzsavings: $-3.43M
I don't know about your economic analysis, but mine says the Bills woulda been better off (in terms of QB play, and fiscally) keeping Fitz on the roster by offering him a better renegotiated deal, than cutting him in favor of $3.5M to 2 guys who never played and $8.8M guaranteed to a 1st round draftee widely regarded as a big project.
2014:
Fitz still cost the Bills $7M against the cap. I'm not sure what they would have paid him in 2014 - I don't have Spotrac Premium, so I can't calculate Fitzsavings the same way. Texans paid him $3M in 2014.
Kyle Orton was signed for 2 years/$11M including $3M signing bonus and $2.5M salary. He delivered competent QB play all season for that $5.5M, but was not willing to put his body on the line for that extra yard which might have won the Bills an extra game or so, then retired.
EJ Manuel was paid $0.81M salary.
total investment in QB for 2014: $6.3M active money plus $7.5M dead money = $13.8M of salary cap invested in QB play
So maybe Nix/Bills interactions with Fitz and other QB aren't a great example to hold up of smart football cost/benefit analysis?
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Considering it's been over a month since the AG's office was going to look at the case, it's safe to assume it's dead.
No, it's not safe to assume it's dead. Assume nothing. The Philly FOP has a bug up its arse about this and they will hang on like a pitbull on a beef knuckle.
And once every avenue to make it a criminal case has been exhausted, there still exists the chance of civil suit, where the standard of proof is "preponderance of evidence" not "beyond reasonable doubt"
McCoy should be nice about it, but he has every right to serve his own self-interest and keep silent here.
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Skurski asserts that the Bills should have already made McCoy available to the media by now so he can address the bar brawl, and apologize. He is critical of the fact that McCoy has said nothing thus far. Thoughts?
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/06/04/jay-skurskis-3-bills-thoughts-time-lesean-mccoy-talk/
Last I heard, McCoy's incident is still under active review by the PA State Attorney General's Office. Given that, I would expect that McCoy's lawyer would advise him to STFU and if McCoy were made available to the media, his repetitive answer to any questions should be "Guys, the case is still under active review, I know you want me to, but I really can't comment at this time on advice of counsel."
How do they want him to address it? "I'm sorry I was at a bar at 2 am and sheet went down and the press went Bugf*ck reporting it" would surely be taken as failing to own responsibility. "I made a mistake and assaulted an officer and I'm deeply sorry for the injuries the officers suffered and the negative publicity for the team" would surely be taken as acknowledging responsibility and could have legal repercussions for McCoy.
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4 interesting things Bills WR coach Sanjay Lal said about Buffalo's receivers http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/05/4_interesting_things_bills_wr_coach_sanjay_lal_said_about_buffalos_receivers.html
What about Dez Lewis? Anything said about him? Or about Goodwin?
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Crohn's can be difficult to diagnose correctly from everything I understand.
It can be. I expect it's harder with a football player, where pain, even severe pain, weight loss, etc, may be pretty common during the season. "When you hear hoofbeats don't think of zebras".
But it also sounds like it was missed until it got very severe. People newly diagnosed with Crohn's don't necessarily need hospitalization and 2 surgeries right off the bat.
I would have to think the medical staff recommended that he see a GI specialist and were involved in his care throughout since he's an active Buffalo Bill.
Henderson was hospitalized after the Eagles game and I believe diagnosed there, so he would have been plugged in to the GI department at that point. We don't know how it went down, but certainly for a non-football-related disease condition, he's not required to involve Bills medical staff in his care or follow their recommendations, and if he felt he was misdiagnosed, he may not want to.
When Whaley was interviewed on WGR last week he referred to Henderson being in the RT competition. Based upon that it seems as if he knew what was going on. I think it's highly possible that Rex knew too, but didn't want to discuss his medical condition. Nevertheless, the coaches are at fault for not reaching out to him.
I don't know the rules on this - I know coaches aren't supposed to have contact with the players in the off-season. Can they call just to say 'how's it going, keep your spirits up'?
Whether or not Rex knew, he handled it in the media poorly. If he just didn't want to discuss it, he should have said so and not made it sound as if Henderson was AWOL or snubbing him.
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I think people are making up stories. Rex and Doug seem to get along just fine.
This is kind of like Vic's supposed source who said that the Pegulas issued an ultimatum. One does not have to have an inside source (as Vic's said he had) to know that an ultimatum is not the Pegulas' style.
This is complete BS in my opinion.
Yes, it was. If memory serves me correctly, it was even discredited by one of Vic's colleagues at TBN (either Ty Dunne or TG)Ty Dunne reported that there was no ultimatum, that several sources who know the Pegulas well said that is foreign to their style.
It wouldn't be unheard-of for one of two men who genuinely get along well to back-stab the other in order to save his hide, but it seems to me one of two things will happen:
1) Rex and Rob and the Bills win. Yea! No reason to back-stab anyone
2) Rex and Rob and the Bills lose. In that instance, do they really have the clout to get Whaley fired?
How good is Bowles if he couldn't get by such a crap coach as Rex? He beats him once and the Jets make the playoffs. So much on the line and he can't win one against a guy you'd fire? You'd take him?
Actually, what I'd like to take is the well-prepared, motivated disciplined Rex-coach team that faced the Jets twice last season. They looked sharp and they got the job done.
The problem is, we don't seem able to get him for the other 14 games.
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PH- I hope your right and simply an injury, vs. a lack of adjust,net to the NFL. I never had much confidence in Henderson coming back this year. I've been in medical devices and healthcare for 18 years, but a couple in the GI space. Crohn's really takes a toll on the body. I'm hopeful he'll be ok in life, but to play a lineman in the NFL with Crohn's is a challenge. At least the first six or seven months after diagnosis, I would have expected a significant weight loss, and significant loss in strength.
I wish him the best as he really made up for his mistakes in college. It would be great if maybe he can make it back by next year, but would guess that is a small percentage. I do think he can live a normal life and be fine of he sticks strictly to his regimen.
Matt Light did it http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f145d/article/matt-light-reveals-long-battle-with-crohns-disease
When Kuoandijo filled in for Henderson in the 'Nati game he actually did pretty well. I don't know what is going on with him in the practice setting that he can't earn the gig. I wonder if that knee problem that was discussed when he was drafted is playing a role in his issues.
I have wondered that myself. He came in healthy and started strong, then faded as the grind of training camp wore on. Made me wonder if the knees are a factor and they just can't hold up to the grind.
Fitz calls his shot -Update Signed w/Jets
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Hopeful
Nope, regressing- now you're back to failing to address the clearly spelled out actual point I made (hint: the cap hit was NOT the issue) and just reiterating your already-stated viewpoint, which amounts to "straw man" when it doesn't address the point of the post it's responding to.
I don't want to go off onto the Rex tangent, I'll just leave it that I've expressed doubts on our coach elsewhere and would love to be proven wrong.