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It seems silly. But it is possible. kind of along the lines of "you don't know what you're missing". I didn't know I had poor vision until I went to get my learners permit when I turned 16. I remember going to pick up my new glasses and walking out of Sterling Optical in the mall and thinking "Holy Crap, I can see the leaves on that fake tree 200 feet away". You learn to function with what you have and don't realize any difference. It's like the difference in being born with an ability (sight, hearing, etc) and then losing it or being born without it. If you never had it, you don't know what you're missing.
One thing that strikes me is that his program didn't ensure all their kids had basic physical exams including vision, glaucoma testing, hearing testing etc. We think of athletes as privileged and they are in some ways (special scholarships and tutors, fan admiration and adulation, sometimes given special treatment if they get into trouble) but this made me sad, like all that and the school still isn't invested in them as human beings enough for fundamental health tests.
When I was growing up there was a big push to have schools screen vision and hearing and ensure no one was having learning troubles due to these things. I guess now with all the defined "special needs" to be serviced, some of the fundamentals have gone by the wayside.
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“The doctor told me my vision was bad,”
A doctor needs to tell him this? That's the part I don't get. It never crossed his mind that he had a vision deficit?
It's what he always lived with, he probably thought it was normal.
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Well they have everyone back from last year starter wise. . Valascoe takes Urbik's spot. I do agree continuity is important on the oline. I also have to think the Bills have a positive feeling about Hendersons chances of keeping his Condition under control for the most part.
If a solid tackle Vet shakes loose later in the summer , I'm sure the Bills will look at it as insurance. The fact the Bills brought in Slausson speaks that they would like a little more insurance if something happens to Henderson.
Wait, I thought Slausson was a center/guard? Were we looking at him to play RT?
Did the host ask Kromer if he has any beach trips planned before training camp?
Ha, ha! "Step away from the Beach Chairs Aaron!"
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sorry, GMs dont make that trade not to see their guy play. it just doesnt happen short of bradford putting together two great years. And then its just an audition to go elsewhere. There is no way that you believe bradford, even if playing very well, is an eagle and starting long term.
Funny aside: No jive here. I was going to bring up the Rivers-Eli Manning trade so I looked it up - AND I COMPLETELY HAD IT BACKWARDS, didn't remember that it was the Giants who piled up the loot to get the Chargers to send them Eli Manning.
I do agree that Bradford will not be an Eagle long term. I do think they expect him to start the season, and if he plays this year as he did last year, esp. towards the end of the season, I think Wentz sits for a year, two if Bradford is really on a roll. And really, why wouldn't a competitive, professional athlete believe he can bench a rookie described as "a big, raw, athletic prospect with a good arm."? Camp battles between a decent vet and a rookie typically favor the vet, even if the Iggles stage an honest to god open audition camp battle.
So yeah, bench the rookie and audition to go elsewhere, don't go sulk in the cupboard.
The more I think about this, the more I think this was a specific power-play of Bradford wanting to take his $11M signing bonus and go to Denver, where if he plays adequately and the D stays strong, he has an honest-to-god chance to play on a championship team.
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Thanks to Just Jack for finding this. It was fun getting to do this. GO BILLS!!!
Nice "Go Bills" at the end. That must have been a thrill, Congrats!
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Interesting question. I admit I don't know the history of George Whitfield or David Lee as far as successes in developing a winning NFL QB. I can see where they worked on a search, but not what QB they have developed.
Can anyone tell me why Lee is considered a "good" coach? Who are his successes in the NFL? I know he has been with the Bills and the Jets the past few years, neither of which have had a star QB. His record? I can only think of EJ & Geno.
I'm not slamming him, I'm asking the more knowledgeable here what his successes are VS his failures. Is there a reason he is considered better than Whitfield. Or is it simply because he is the QB coach of the Bills and if you want to play for the Bills you do what he says.
And also why is the Jones step back considered a bad training technique used by Whitfield? I'm not arguing it, I'm asking why it is considered a bad technique?
Looks like someone responded about Whitfield.
Here's Lee's coaching history and the QBs he worked with as far as I can tell.
2005-2006 Cowboys QB coach and offensive assistant. Bledsoe, Romo (2004 was Romo's rookie year, 2006 his first year as a starter)
2007 - U Arkansas, gotta let a college football afficionado tell you who were the QBs
2008-2010 Miami Dolphins QB coach Pennington, Henne, Moore. "Offensive Innovator of the Year" for introducing the "Wildcat" which .....has curled up on the NFL hearth rug for a nap. Nice kitty.
2011 Ole Miss OC. See 2007 Arkansas.
2012 Bills. Fitzpatrick, who appeared to regress badly that year. Had better years in Tenn, Houston, and NYJ. Credits Bill O'Brien for helping him, doesn't say a word about Lee.
2013-2014 Jets. Geno Smith. Well, all righty then.
2015 Bills. Taylor. Comments are out there about Taylor's eyes and feet not matching what's developing downfield.
Bottom line he may be a great QB coach but I'm not sure you can prove it by pointing to the top notch NFL QB he has developed. Maybe Romo?
I don't think the left foot "cheat step" is considered a bad technique, it's just not the technique Lee wants Cardale Jones to use, or perhaps not in the way he's using it - maybe he's taking too big of a step and he's not balanced or something? It may be one of those "potayto, potahto" things where there are different ways to do things and coaches have preferences.
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There's a difference between expectation and reality. They "expect" Wentz to replace Bradford. If Bradford plays well, the reality is he won't have to worry about Wentz. Given the odds of Wentz amounting to anything...Bradford's concern should be more about the odds of him amounting to anything.
Exactly this. Think Rivers and San Diego. Rivers was clearly picked to replace Brees, who wasn't initially looking like all that and the bag of chips they drafted him to be. Brees put a lock on the starting job Rivers first year and ultimately kept Rivers on the bench for 2 years, even performing so well San Diego decided to franchise him in order to keep him the 2nd year. Then, even injured in the 3rd year, Brees had the leverage to be offered a big deal with the Saints.
Philly has stated repeatedly that Bradford is the starter this season. They have no intention of rushing Wentz onto the field, and without a 1st round pick next year they have little reason to not try to win the division.
Aaron Rodgers is arguably the best QB I'm the league right now, and he sat for 2 years behind Farve.
Yep. Rodgers sat 3 years, but who's counting. Bradford had every reason to believe he'd start this year, and every reason to believe if he played well, he could keep Wentz on the bench a couple of years and then command another big contract at the end.
the guy just wants to play the game. philly has moved away from him completely, so he wants out, so he can play the game somewhere. sounds reasonable to me. who wants to sit. guys finally healthy and now he's screwed, sitting behind some rookie.. he should have kept it out of the media, but his fundamental argument stands. he is out in philly, so he wants out. NFL careers are extremely limited in time, so if philly doesn't want him, maybe someone else will give him a shot. all he wants is shot to start, and he no longer has that opportunity in Philly. yeah, a contract is a contract , etc. got it. but his request is not unreasonable. doesn't mean philly will do it, but to ask for it (not thru the media) is not wrong
All respect, I think this is hornswoggle. Philly has not moved away from Bradford completely, they gave him a 2 year contract with fat guarantees expecting him to start certainly this year, maybe the next two years. This isn't about "just wants to play the game", this is about a guy who saw a better team (Denver) in crying need of a QB but with little cap room, and who figured if he could push his team to trade him he could leverage his team-friendly salary and mebbe put a Superbowl ring on his lilly-white, overpaid, underperforming fingers.
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AUDIO: @MarkDominikESPN said Sam Bradford should have never missed some #Eagles workouts! >>>http://bit.ly/1WkLsu9
Is it just me or is he crosseyed?
Tom Condon confirms @RichEisenShow he thought he had spot in Denver for Sam: "They couldnt agree on a price." Eagles
What a shame.
Actually, I think it is a shame - Bradford could be good for the Broncs and vice versa.
Do you think the Broncs offered them Sanchez back?
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Not sure about that or what an '82 Pinto would be worth because they stopped making them after 1980.
LOL!
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Chuck Zodda of Inside The Pylon ranks the UDFA kickers - http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/2016-nfl-draft/2016/05/10/ranking-2016-rookie-kicker-class-udfa-signings/
Essentially, get used to Dan Carpenter.
Interesting. Makes one wonder why the Bills bothered signing Morgan at all.
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If you're taught to have your left foot back unless you are pivoting right I think teams would pick up on that tell.
What I know about proper QB footwork at the NFL level could be written on a penny and lost, but as long as it isn't a huge "cheat step" back, I would think you could leave the left foot back and just take a deeper step back and pivot to the right? Or would you take a 3 step drop to pivot right anyway?
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That's pretty weird because I've spoken to a couple of former college QB's (D3 guys) and they've both said they were taught to use their left foot back as a cheat step to gain ground quicker in their drops.
Mark Schofield, one of the guys I spoke to about it, wrote about it - http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/2015/06/17/the-art-magic-and-science-of-quarterbacking-stance-and-cheat-step/
Great link, thanks for posting it!
The "cheat step" seems logical to me.
Maybe Lee is the one whose credentials should be questioned as a QB guru? What QB can he point to as actually developed on his watch? I felt he drove Fitz to regress.
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Maybe somewhere in between?
I see that Jones worked with Whitfield and I wonder what affect he has on a QB other than touting them from the rooftops even if they suck (Manziel). Has anyone taken a deep look at this guy & if so, what do you think?
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/george-whitfield-qb-coach-afl-060414
I have heard 2 things about his work with Cardale Jones:
1) he persuaded Jones to throw the football in a conventional way, shifting his grip to the laces (good)
2) he coached Jones to start under center with his left foot back to get out of the center's way (apparently bad), and Lee promptly corrected that and told him to start with his feet parallel
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Pressured.... He's not even a lock to start
?? in a 3-4 D, on a team with no depth at LB??
Isn't Ragland just replacing Bradham?
Yes
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Wow, Tannehill may become the next Curtis Painter...
I thought I had heard that Manning was not a good mentor to Brock Osweiler - that he didn't even get a snap with the ones last fall until Kubiak intervened.
He might be a good teacher, or he might not be a good teacher. Just because a guy can do doesn't mean he can teach.
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I was reading on a local news feed after this incident. I was amazed at how many homicides were in the news over a period of a couple weeks.
Rough town.
St Louis is nationally known as a town with a high murder rate. We run about 25% of New Orleans.
Wish someone who lives there would weigh in, heard a radio show interviewing the owner of a custom t-shirt business. Apparently New Orleans or parts of it anyway, has this tradition of "RIP Shirts" where family and friends order tshirts memorializing the deceased. Business owner said he wanted to do t-shirts for birthdays and graduations, but quickly learned he had to do RIP shirts to make money.
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They are paying him $36mil over 2 seasons, I would do whatever the hell the team wants for that.
Well, yeah, but you didn't just complete a 6 year, $76 million dollar contract with the team that drafted you, during which you spent 1 1/2 years getting paid for your knee rehab
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I dont think they'll commit to $15M for Taylor right now. But if they could find room to bump him up this year and throw a couple extra million his way, I bet that would be appreciated across the entire locker room, and hopefully if/when it comes time to work out the expensive long term deal.
Right now, everything needs to be focused on getting Gilmore done. If they could do that before camp... holy cow, what an offseason that would be.
I don't get this at all. How would it benefit the Bills to "bump him up this year" without it being part of a long term deal? And how would that be appreciated across the locker room?
It seems to me it would send discontent across the locker room for every player who is under contract at less than they think they're worth on the open market. Everyone currently under contract would expect to be "bumped up" as a friendly 'lil gesture, without any new committment on the players part.
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This is exactly why guaranteed contracts are bad for NFL; Orton got to keep a large bonus from Dallas by "retiring" and then coming back out of retirement when Cowboys could not afford to pay his salary close to end of training camp.
I thought the situation with Orton was he didn't actually retire, but held out and paid fines for missing minicamp, then begrudingly showed up at training camp, until the Cowboys got fed up and released him. Because he was released, and not retired, he got to keep his signing bonus. If he'd retired, he would have had to pay it back on a pro-rated basis.
Bradford may intend on pulling an Orton. The question is, where's the team that would be fool enough to sign him then? If you lose QBs to injury, Bradford isn't exactly the durable guy you count on to step up and never get hurt.
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Wow. Scary and sad. i cant believe what people will kill some one over. I hope someone asks this 30 year old if he is glad he had a gun with him. He takes someone's life and also throws his away in the heat of the moment . Ridiculous and pointless , tragic.
And all too common in N'Orleans, the murder capitol of the US of A, where packing and reacting are part of the culture for some folks: "With a murder rate of 57.6 per 100,000, New Orleans had the highest murder rate of any U.S. city with a population of 100,000 or more in 2011 and ranked 28th in the world in 2014"
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The shiny new toy will always get the shot sooner than later.
True. But compare and contrast Bradford's behavior with Drew Brees when the Chargers drafted Rivers. Brees, drafted in 2001, wasn't looking like "all that and a bag of chips" by 2003-2004. Chargers drafted Rivers in 2004, Brees lit the place up that fall: "Siddown, Rookie". 2005, Brees would have been a FA, but the Chargers franchised him: another strong year:"Siddown, Rookie". 2006, he got the big FA offers despite the torn labrum and the Chargers moved on to the "new shiny". But it took 2 years.
If Bradford sat down shut up and played his butt off, he could easily keep Wentz on the bench for 1-2 years and he'd be every QB needy team's Hot Ticket. Instead, he's just a Hot Mess.
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Well schitt, when you just got an $11M bonus and you want to be traded, any port in a storm, man.
Pretty much. If whay I heard this morning on the radio is correct, his agent Tom Condon completely dismissed the idea of giving back his bonus.
He can always do what Byrd did: claim injury to hold out, and come back when convenient to help his stock.
As much injured as Bradford has been, there is no way claiming injury could help his stock.
If Bradford really wants to be traded, he needs to put at least part of the bonus on the table, because no one wants him at Philly's price - and Philly's price is driven in part by that bonus.
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That article is a waste of words. Why don't they hypothesize about him getting kidnapped by aliens too?
It's probably one of the nicer options Bradford has at this point. Why would the Iggles trade him and eat his $11M signing bonus?
OTOH, if he wants to hold out through training camp and preseason, as far as I can tell he'd be charged just a fraction of that $11M signing bonus:
$70,000 for missing the mandatory veteran mini-camp $ 70,000
$30,000 per day for missing training camp (x 3 weeks?) $630,00
1/17 of his salary for missing a preseason game $437,500
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would be fined something like $1.2M for missing all of mandatory mini camp and training camp and preseason?
So why would he give back his $11M signing bonus by retiring just to avoid a $1.2M fine?
Interesting question.
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Based on everything I know, that is the last coach he'd like to play for.
Say more, please?
quarterback coaching and Cardale Jones
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I really liked Garrard as a QB. I thought he had some tough luck early, being drafted as the QB-in-waiting then a new GM drafting Leftwich and being kind of mired in a QB controversy. I admire him - he has Crohn's disease and had a major operation to remove a chunk of intestine one summer and played that season. He tried to play through a herniated disc and other injuries.
What I don't know, is would Garrard be a good coach? He had some humdinger awful games in his career.
So my questions to you are:
1) why do you believe Garrard would be a good QB coach? A guy who can do, can't always teach. What do you know or see in him that you feel would make him a good teacher? I didn't see him as a guy noted for pristine technique or exceptional decision making, although a lot of the time he was trying to survive behind a horrid OL and head-scratching coaching.
2) why do you believe Lee is a horrible QB coach? Yes, he's coached some mediocre QB, but what leads you to say he's a hack and horrible?
I don't have strong beliefs either way, though I have some skepticism on Lee based on Fitz apparent regression under Lee and Geno's lack of improvement. The Ole Miss program stagnating, if Lee is the OC can you hang up QB problems to him? I'd just like to know what you see.