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I actually think that DK may end up a really good football player, but right now he's an athlete that's playing football, and I have a really hard time picking those guys early.

That's incredible to me. The guy looks like an athlete for sure, but geez. He averaged 3.5 receptions per game in less than 2 full college seasons. He's had a grand total 5 games (out of 21) in which he had 5 or more receptions, and they came against South Alabama, Tennessee-Martin, Kentucky (ok, that's a good one), South Illinois, and Kent State. In contrast, he's had 3 or fewer receptions in 10 of 21 games. It's a draft pick that's based purely upon potential and not production, which is okay if you're a team that can afford to be wrong about him. But if you're a team like Buffalo, and you're picking a WR at No. 9 overall, then you need that guy to be a stud.

Wouldn't that be something? Trade a former #4 overall WR who goes on to show that he's a bona fide WR1 for a late 1st rounder just to turn around and spend the #4 overall pick on a WR that might not be a WR1? Amazing

And if you like him at center, like I do, then he's Justin Britt...although Britt ended up having to drop about 10 lbs from his combine weight of 325, whereas Jonah is basically where he needs to be weight-wise given that he's a bit shorter. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/justin-britt?id=2543824

We just knew that Gruden would deal his OLmen, didn't we?

Realistically: Jason Kelce and a WR. I'd love AB, Julio, or OBJ, but I'll settle for Marvin Jones.

I'm definitely saying that the statistics don't support the cop claim, and I've yet to see a truly compelling argument in support of systemic oppression in today's America...I mean, remember that we are, in fact, talking about a controversy that started in a league that pays thousands of black men millions of dollars to play a game for a living. The data seem to indicate that an individual's choices are what determines their life course, not skin color. Nobody is arguing that racism doesn't still exist, because evil people still exist. But the number of actual racists is far, far, far lower than what some would have you believe. We live in a time when simply disagreeing with someone of another race gets a person labeled a racist (but, oddly, it's usually not the person in the discussion that does the labeling). For me, it comes down to this: knowing how this all started, when I see Kaep's sitting during the anthem boiled down to "he's fighting racism and injustice", I think it's a crock.

He sat down during the anthem because of apparent oppression and innocent black kids being murdered by police every day...since then, the story has had to evolve in order to not be based upon a blatant lie. For the reason he gave, I credit him with nothing more than seeking attention and being uninformed. I can't agree with a lost livelihood either. He made tens of millions in football, and has parlayed his attention-seeking into endorsements off the field... and it all started with misinformation at best, and a lie at worst--should that be allowed in our country? Free speech allows him to say what he likes, and it also allows private companies to hold him accountable for what he says. No offense intended: anyone that wants to see things operate any other way is, in some fashion, opposed to such individual freedoms.

When was the last time a first round TE was a serious contributor? I honestly can't remember

Sorry Gug, but the NFL took just as serious a stand as he did. They knew what they opened themselves up to, and they did it anyway. They didn't turn a blind eye to anything. If there's any validity to the grievance claim, then it's the literal opposite of turning a blind eye. Kaep chose to make it clear that he cared more about social issues than football, and he's been treated that way ever since. Call it a punishment if you'd like; to me, he's gotten exactly what he wanted: attention.

I had no idea that Landry could get that far downfield!

Such is life in a litigious country. If you're a money machine like the NFL, and you take a stand on any topic relating to a player whatsoever, you'll get sued by someone. And at some point, the expense of litigation becomes greater than the expense of a settlement, hence what we've seen with Kaep.

He did bring it on himself. Players have non-guaranteed contracts in the NFL, so they can be released whenever. He did something that technically wasn't against the rules, fine. The owners have every right to decide not to employ him. Like it or not, people are allowed to run their own businesses as they see fit. If someone does something that doesn't represent ownership in a way they like, they're probably going to be out. You're free to choose, but you aren't free from the consequences of your choices.

Peterman is, statistically, the worst QB of the modern era. EJ started and won games in this league. Peterman has never sniffed a performance that was 50% as good as EJ's game against the Jets in his rookie year. I feel confident that 100% of the football watching world will disagree with you on this.

Statistically, peterman is the worst NFL QB in modern history. So it's Kelly/Peterman. Literally every word of this is wrong.

If he cant dominate in the AAF with a high school OL then he is surely done in the NFL.

Might that have something to do with the exposure and endorsements he's gotten with his non-football endeavors? And you're missing the point. It's pretty simple: if Kaep wanted back on the NFL field, he'd do whatever it takes. You can bet money that there will be a few players that show well in the AAF and get signed by NFL teams, even to practice squads. Point being that he had an avenue to get back on the football field, but he wants to do it on his terms. Does that smack of a guy that's 100% focused on football to you?

They might have a better shot at landing Paradis than Morse IMO...Morse has the same agent as Russ Bodine; not sure how good that would look if EAS scores Morse a big deal that puts one of their other clients out of a job...then again, maybe they can convince Bodine that it's in his best interest to sign another contract this year since he's only got $500k in guaranteed money coming from this one, which would kill two birds with one stone. Just pointing out another dynamic at play here. If we're looking at agent-association, the OLmen that the Bills may have the best "inside track" to are Ja'Wuan James and Quentin Spain. They share an agent with Kyle Williams, Robert Foster, and Isaiah McKenzie--all of whom have signed deals since Beane has been GM.

Did anyone post the contract details yet? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/2/14/18224774/buffalo-bills-contract-numbers-spencer-long-deal-laden-with-incentives-brandon-beane-bonuses This is NOT starting center (or guard) money; this is backup money. I'd look for Bodine to be the emergency option as a starting center, but one of them (Long or Bodine) will be cut if the team lands a bona fide starter in FA or the draft.

Huh, so what you're saying is that Reid took the first opportunity that came to him in order to get back on the field? Sort of like I said Kaep should do in my very first post in this thread? Weird. Also, Reid and Malcolm Jenkins made themselves just as front-and-center as Kaep when it came to protesting. And yes, there is one HUGE difference between Kaep and the other players: he's a QB...and as I already said... Bottom line is that Kaep doesn't want to be in the NFL at all costs; he wants to be in the NFL on his own terms. Fine, that's his prerogative. It also has consequences. But don't take my word on his dedication to football, just read this: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bs-sp-ravens-joe-flacco-colin-kaepernick-20170727-story.html “It depends on Colin first of all — what he wants to do, what’s his passion, what’s his priority, what kind of shape is he in, is he ready to go, then our needs. We’ll just kind of see where it goes,” Harbaugh said. “I don’t think it’s different for us than any other team. We’re definitely going to get another arm in here, but he’s not an arm obviously. He’s an accomplished football player. You always like having good football players.” That was the criteria for the Ravens, and they didn't sign him. You do the math.

Sure...that's why Eric Reid has a job too. Same with Malcolm Jenkins.

Yes. If he were actually interested in playing it'd have been a no brainer: show the NFL how stupid they look by owning the fringe players. Nope. He'd have a job if coaches had the slightest inkling that he cared half as much about football as he does social issues. Dozens of others knelt and still have jobs. Some, like Sheldon Richardson, got fat contracts afterward. QB is the most demanding position in pro sports. Coaches want QBs that are 100% football to a fault...or, failing that, make up for it with extraordinarily high level of play (a la Big Ben). Kaep brings neither of those traits...hence no NFL job. And if he wanted to prove people wrong about that, he'd take a job playing QB when offered.

1) this thread is destined for PPP one way or another 2) you did sort of start the "this country" talk

He's an ass. He knelt because--according to him--police were out there murdering young black kids daily...which was a blatant lie in every sense. So he had to change his narrative to be more general--he's kneeling because of social inequality, but he still takes the practice field in paraphernalia depicting police as pigs and praises murderous dictators like Fidel Castro (I thought it was hilarious when an actual Cuban immigrant--Armando Salguero--called him out for praising Castro when Kaep was raised by a white family in Wisconsin). He claims to be oppressed, but he got to play a game for millions of dollars, and when he lost his starting spot, he decided to draw attention to himself. I like you Gugs, and you're entitled to your opinion, but Kaep is an ass.

For those of you that wondered whether or not Kaep actually cared about football, well, there's your answer. The reason he's not on an NFL roster is that he isn't about football anymore; he's 100% dedicated to his social issues now. There isn't an NFL coach in the world who wants a QB like that.