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I'm not sure what "camel's head" means but I think I get the gist - I'm not saying nothing should be done, I'm saying that it's not worth discussing with people whose cry is "abolish police" because they won't accept any sort of reform - only abolition. So people can vote their way into a mess, but g-d forbid we make them vote their way out of it? We need unilateral executive action? Is that the argument here? Because, again, that's not how our government works - it being slow is a feature, not a bug. And understand - the "abolish police" crowd is the same crowd that specifically does not want private business to establish their own standards. They're the exact same people that were policing businesses - through naming and shaming - who dared defy the executive authorities when it came to masks, social distancing, etc not even a month ago. See, this is what they really mean by "abolish police" - nobody is accountable except for anybody who stands in the way of their ideology. As far as equitable enforcement of laws - this is where you get into discretion and the like. Either you enforce a law by the letter across the board or you let police have discretion. Should you allow race to be a determining factor in your discretion? No, but understand that there are 350 million people in America and as long as police have discretion SOMEBODY is going to have a complaint about how they use that discretion, whether that complaint is based in reality or not. I was really just making fun of troopers. We have "fix-it tickets" in NY where if you get cited for something like a broken tail light, you get until sundown the next day to fix it. You can either take a receipt from an auto shop showing completed work to your court date or you can go to any police station and ask whoever is at the desk to inspect your vehicle and sign off on the ticket. Look, I'm not going to deny that your neighbor or his friends or family have been treated poorly by a cop at one point or another. But I will say that I've seen a lot of complaints and reviewed a lot of body cam footage and most claims are baseless on their face. Perception and reality aren't two entirely different things but there can be big differences when you consider that few, if any, people can read minds. And believe it or not, one's expectations can play a big role in how "respectful" they end up being. That cuts both ways. It'll never pass. But if qualified immunity ever goes away you're going to see a lot of cops walk off the job the day it does.

Dontcha know that having the luxury of calling the police when someone shot up your house is a function of your white privilege? Assuming it is real, replacing police officers with social workers (who, by the way, want absolutely ***** nothing to do with showing up to a 3am mental health crisis in the hood without an armed cop standing next to them) BY DEFINITION will not solve the issue, it will only shift to social workers perpetuating the same systems. This is why the "abolish police" crowd are anarcho-capitalists in function; NO government interaction is reasonable by their definitions of "systemic" and "racism." Every municipality that I'm aware of has elected leaders who are accountable to the people. They make budgets and laws and prescribe punishments for violating those laws. If jaywalking and sagging are "BS" laws then tell your local government that. Can't get a ticket for violating a law that doesn't exist. Meanwhile every local cop I've met in NY hates writing tickets and only does it if they're specifically working a traffic detail (click it or ticket, work zone week, etc.) or the violation is particularly egregious. Also you're gonna trigger troopers pretty hard if you insist that tickets for broken tail lights are BS.

Same. I have a big head that has the bonus feature of being an odd shape.

Then why does their website call them "abolitionist steps?" I'll give you a hint: the green part of the chart isn't an endgame. In any case, all these represent steps towards anarcho-tyranny. Police abolition at any level means that violent crime will not be patrolled for or acted against while armed state agents will harass business owners who commit whatever the crime du jour is: violation of mask edicts, refusal to bake a cake, etc.

Can you please inform me where in the OP the word "defund" appears?

This is as good a thread as any I guess. This was posted by a moderator of a verified LEO-only forum on behalf of a cop in Minneapolis PD that wanted to vent anonymously. Submitted without comment.

Are we not doing "phrasing" anymore? "Abolish police" is not "fixing the system." "Abolish police" turns America into a series of checkpoints, like any place in Africa with natural resources that developing nations are interested in (South Africans and the French will be able to make big money consulting on this). And we all know how well that's going. "Abolish police" = rise in private security for the wealthy, cost shifted to the evaporating middle class (whose security will be eroded quicker than their wealth), and gang rule of the urban poor. And people who say "abolish police" will accept nothing less than exactly that, making it impossible to discuss things with them. Functionally these people are anarcho-capitalists, whether they realize that or not, so any crying about "corporations" is laughably disingenuous. Considering all that, yeah I'll take the beating instead of "green zone" America. If someone regularly uses terms like "institutional-" or "systemic racism" and believes law enforcement constitutes an omnipotent bloc distinct from other public institutions, they don't live in the real world. Which means I'm never going to end up in the same neighborhood, idea-wise, as them. Is policing in America currently the best it could be? Not if you ask me. Shoutbox denizens can testify to what ideal policing consists of, philosophically, in my mind. But someone who wants to throw out the baby instead of the bathwater has no interest in discussing real solutions.

I’ve seen the 39thirty white standing buffalo in royal blue but not a fitted.

Tbh I’d rather just be beaten with a nightstick once in a while if it’s all the same

This but with a deli and Boar's Head meats instead of store brand. First youth golf tournament win Getting my first drum set. Playing my first live show.

In light of recent events

I find Dylan to be generally not That Good. Except for Blood on the Tracks. Great album.

Lol called it @Gugny @Mike in Horseheads

To ask the question is to answer it. Nor can they comprehend why a DUI attorney trying to sell his services might not explain the statistics in any meaningful way. Nor can they understand that there may be a reason why the NHTSA would still insist on those three FSTs having "scientific validity" and being administered as standard practice even though the NHTSA's curriculum explicitly mentions the percentages given.

Did they need a Phil Harris lookalike? It's been like 10 years since he died I can't imagine demand is that high.

So who's liable when people's can't unsee it?

Mid-00's was a rough time for NBA and NFL fashion.

You forgot something.

You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like. Deal with it.

Dude I read it and didn't know who it was about until I scrolled to an hour deep into OBL and found wtf you were talking about. And I only did that because I was bored as hell at work. Try, you know, actually including what the post is about.

The Razor Cake

What a rancid ***** she is.

The ***** you on, dude? The "embarrassment" being referenced is pretty obviously the statement that was eventually pulled that was written by (you guessed it) a shitlaw attorney from a TTTT law skewl. Then again, people with the LSAT scores required for settling for a place like Southern probably have similar comprehension abilities.

Yeah, I was wrong about it being a third-tier toilet...it's actually a *****in tier 4. It's like one step up from a diploma mill. Learn something before you talk out the wrong end, fool.