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Fitz didn’t look good before getting hurt last year. I think he’s done

Yeah I would prefer Beasley was here this year, but if we believe the reports it sounds like it’s just not in the cards. And yeah, they can get banged up which is why I am confident Beane isn’t banking on McKenzie as the full time slot WR given he’s pretty small. Beasley wasn’t big either, but he’s built pretty stout for his size and played physical because of it…plus we always had McKenzie as a backup when he did get banged up. Assuming the reports are accurate and Cole is as good as gone, then I would be interested to see if someone like Hodgins can ascend from the PS and finally grab an active roster spot as a slot option too. I wouldn’t say bank on any PS squad guy stepping up, but he’s flashed potential and been stuck behind Cole and McKenzie.

I love the two TE set potential with OJ Howard here. I’ve been advocating trying to get him for the past 2-3 years from Tampa. I think pairing his athletic ability with Knox own athletic ability is going to put a lot of pressure on defenses. But that being said, Cole wasn’t on the field for just 4 WR sets, he was a key component if this offense, even as just a guy the defense had to pay serious attention to on 3rd and 4th down which helped other guys as well. So I still think Beane is going to look for another guy to add at the slot position, and likely in the draft. He was also reportedly interested in Barrios before he signed elsewhere already.

I agree to an extent here…I agree in trusting and believing in Beane to make the moves necessary and in a way that’s best for the team and it’s future. But fans that “worry” about the cap are usually not really worrying about the cap, they are usually countering some outrageous and ridiculous approach or expectations by other fans here who would NOT do it the right way compared to Beane. I mean if it was up to the fans here, not only would we make this big signing, we would make 2 more and then also trade all our draft picks for another. So, I think the people you see most often advocating for not being stupid about our cap are usually countering ridiculous things people want done that are to the extreme.

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close. That being said, I have full confidence Beane knows this and has no intention of heading into preseason with McKenzie as our starting slot WR for the season. I feel like the whole social media and vax stuff has caused fans to lose sight just how valuable Cole has been to Josh, how many huge third or fourth down conversions Cole made that were vital in a lot of games and wins. He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league. McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole. Don’t get me wrong, I love bringing McKenzie back, he’s a weapon, he’s just not on Coles level out of the slot. So with Cole seemingly done here, my expectation is they will look for a slot guy in FA still, or more likely in the draft…and possibly both. Josh loves hitting that slot guy on critical 3rd and 4th down plays, they will give him another weapon there before camp begins.

Funny thing is Saints haven’t won anything, are a total mess, and future is bleak and depends on a trade that may not happen to save their future. Yet people citing them as if they are the model to follow hahaha. Only on TSW

Cap is important, more important than fans want to admit. The difference is that we have a GM who is a master at managing the cap. Most teams don’t have that luxury and it blows up in their face. People want to cite the Rams, but over look the fact that while they did win the SB this year, it’s also the first time in history it’s actually worked. It’s not suddenly the blue print to throw away all your cap and draft picks to push for a 1 year SB run. It’s historically not worked a heck of a lot more than it has worked. Let’s put it this way, more teams have won a SB with a crappy QB than teams have won by mortgaging their future to buy one. And neither is an ideal choice on how to get one. Saints keep getting brought up, but why? They haven’t won anything. Why are they the poster child for why you dont need to worry about the cap? They have consistently had cap issues and had to lose players because of it, going all the way back to Brees favorite target Jimmy Graham. Saints lost players already this year and still don’t have a QB. They aren’t winning anything this year unless they land Watson (which I don’t think they will). And if they do get Watson, key players will have to be sent to Houston in trade as part of the deal too for both compensation and cap reasons. So no guarantee they can still win a SB even after the trade. This won’t be the same saints roster of last year with Watson. Bottom line is the cap can be manipulated, we all know that. But how well you manage that manipulation will determine if your SB window is 1-2 years or 5-10 years. I would much rather be the Patriots dynasty than what the Rams just did. Not only will the Rams likely not make it back to the SB this year, but they won’t likely win another one any time soon. Yes still they got one, but again, it’s the first time in history that has happened, not historically a sound strategy to get one. But again, the good news is we have Beane who understands maybe better than anyone in the league right now in how to balance aggression and intelligence when it comes to the cap. So we are in excellent hands and our future is bright.

Hes been a good blocker from what I have known. As far as the Achilles goes, it can take a full season to truly rebound from that, so I’m not too worried about it at this point, I expect him to be back to near he was this year.

Hard disagree. I mean we cleared a lot of cap to make this happen. And as Allens deal kicks in, we are gonna have to make further adjustments and cuts to deal with the cap. So to totally dismiss the cap is foolish. There is always a way to get a deal done, but consequences come. Look around the league at teams losing good players because they can’t afford them. You can only kick the cap can so far down the road. Im not against this signing by any means, I’m stoked we got him. I’m saying that cap management and responsibility structuring deals is still important. The good news is we have a GM who is a master at this and are in good hands.

He’s an athletic freak, but grossly under used in TB. He had Cameron Brate there who is also a very good TE and also Gronk the last 2 years. Then you have all the receivers and RBs catching passes. Just not enough balls to go around. He is big and very fast, he will be a matchup nightmare with Knox and him running the seams

THIS. TIMES 1000

I love this singing, been wanting to get him to B-Lo to play with Josh for 3 years

Sorry, but a 2 time Pro Bowl MLB is not a miss under any description of any kind. You may not like him, but no GM in the NFL would look at Edmunds and what we have gotten out him as a "miss". 4 year starter out of college, leads team in tackles, 5th in the NFL in tackles since entering the league, and 2 pro bowls. Fans can debate all they want about whether he is worth extending or not, but by no sense of the definition is he a "miss". To call Basham a likely miss is quite premature, especially since in limited snaps he showed some promise last year. But lets say he does become a miss, that would only be 3 misses in 11 players drafted or acquired in 5 years with first and 2nd round picks. Again, I laid out the actual track record. There is not a team and football who wouldn't jump all over that track record and take it in a heart beat. We have literally put a top 3 QB, top 3 CB, and top 3 WR on the field with those picks. Multiple pro bowlers besides those 3 and still have some young promising guys developing with exciting potential too. So, yeah...your suggestion they tend to "miss" on first and 2nd round picks is completely off base. Again, I mean no disrespect, just stunned anyone could even begin to suggest we cant draft in the first 2 rounds with that kind of track record.

I mean the Redzone was never his strong suit. Not exactly a TD machine.

Yes sorry, poor choice of words on my part, just verbally committed. Thanks for catching that

Huh? No disrespect, but I am stunned by this statement. 2017 - Tre White, Dion Dawkins, and Zay Jones 2018 - Josh Allen, Edmunds 2019 - Ed Oliver and Cody Ford 2020 - Diggs and AJE 2021 - Groot and Basham In 5 drafts, 4 of them with Beane and one just McD we have used 11 picks in first 2 rounds to draft or trade (Diggs) for a player. Of those 11 players, we have only officially "missed" on 2 as of now...Zay and Ford (he could bounce back under Kromer, but hes a miss as of now). AJE, Groot, and Basham are still up in the air, this will be the year to know what we got in them, they are also the 3 newest to the NFL and team. Of the 11, we have an MVP level QB, a first team all pro CB, a multiple pro bowl MLB, a pro bowl LT, an emerging DT who just had his best season, and a beast WR who is top 3 in the NFL. So how do we seem to miss with our 1st and 2nd rounders? I mean I see other people say this, and its like they only remember the one or two that didnt work out, and forget about the entire heart and soul of this team that was drafted in those first 2 rounds. I bet you would have a really hard time finding another GM with that kind of track record over the last 5 years.

We signed some good players. People had very unrealistic expectations prior to the start of FA like this was a Madden football game.

Its not true. Here is a link to the Super Bowl odds on March 11th across Vegas. Your brother likely saw some dude tweet that on Twitter, as there are a couple people saying that, but its not actually true. https://www.thelines.com/odds/super-bowl/ And here is a link today: https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/ Nothing has changed about where the Saints were 5 days ago and today.

Its already all over the board here and the internet. He is returning to Washington. When he signed here, Washington had not made him any kind of offer. But they came back after the fact and matched our offer, and his preference was not to leave Washington at all. So he decided to return to Washington, where he wanted to be from the get go, just never got an offer until after he agreed verbally here.

Oliver and Settle will start - 3T and 1T - and play on passing downs most often IMHO. I think Jones plays more the short yardage and obvious rushing downs at the 1T. If Phillips signs, he likely rotates in to spell Oliver when needed. And both Settle and Phillips are versatile enough to go into either the 3T or 1T if needed at times. But my expectation is that...3T: Oliver and Phillips. 1T: Settle and Jones. The rotation I expect will be frequent to keep guys fresh and all will see a good amount of snaps.

Doesn't seem likely, everything I am seeing its down to 3 teams and we aren't one of them. But you never know, I would be all for it.

Honestly, that will be a nasty interior DL for us, a BIG improvement from last year too. Settle is a guy who can penetrate too from the 1T, while Jones is that big space eater type.

Not to play 1T, but because we will have 5 DT's...and we are not keeping 5 DT's on our active game day roster IMO. We are set at 1T already with Settle and Jones. Phillips would be here to back up Oliver IMO. So yeah, I agree with you totally on that.

He isn't going to make it past Pittsburgh anyway, and likely gone before them too.

I think Oliver and Settle will be the "starters" and are in for obvious passing situations, Jones rotates in for Settle in short yardage and obvious rushing downs, and Philips spells Oliver when needed.