John Cocktosten

First half baby is the ugliest that I've ever seen.

Turrible pass

Wow! Fitz looking great carrying out the fake!

run,pass,run,pass,run pass,pass,run,pass,run,pass,run balanced offense Chan!

Buddy has big mouth. He's done nothing as a GM. 10-22 up until this point. When he gets to the playoffs or at least to .500 then talk sh*t. Until then, shut up. Btw, I think the Bills will make the playoffs this year.

McKillop knows this defense like the back of his hand because he played for Wanny and was his defensive captain for two years at Pitt. He was All Big East twice and the defensive player of the year in 08. He has something that KS doesn't have, instincts. He's a thumper who's not giving up his gap. KS is playing on skates on every play and getting blocked down field, not even around the LOS.

I hate to go all eball and post my own thread but McKillop will be starting by week 4. Shep never saw a block that he could shed. He's not physical at the POA. He's 10 x's worse than Poz and that's saying a lot. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/148177-scott-mckillop/

Great player. However, he has been a head case dating back to high school. He also has a hard time staying healthy. Pass.

Even if they waive VY I like the fact that the Bills were willing to take a chance. However, Buddy's had 3 drafts and drafted no legit QB prospects. Now were stuck with Thigpen.

I love Freddy but he is not a top 5 back until he finishes a season. He is one of my favorite Bills of all time though.

Alpha, your obsession with Maybin and his amazing 6 sacks is rivaling Dog1487's love affair with Trent Edwards. You're dangerously close to surpassing eball's boner for Kelsay. Just sayin.

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I haven't seen one thing out of Moats past or present that makes me say he should be the guy. At least Morrison has experience. It will be Bradham's spot soon enough. NB will never be great but will be a very steady performer for the Bills a lot like Angelo Crowell was before the injuries.

Looks like 1 team believes in TO. Just sayin.

Maybin is going to be effective on obvious passing situations where there is >8 yds to go and that is all. Teams are going to run misdirection, screens and power at him all day. He is a complete liability against the run and has no counter moves. He is a cover sack specialist. I love how there is never a mention of his 10 tackles in a 16 game season.

1) Is Clausen's career over? He came out as a true junior so he's still very young. I'll pay my debts when the bet is won. 2)I love how you always pull the "classy" card. I make fun of you all the time and you're obviously disabled in some way. 3)I wanted Clausen in the second. Get your facts straight. About LeFevour, you saw the guy play once and hung up posters on your wall. 4)Maybin was a complete joke here and will never be an every down player. The Jets cut him before last season too. He had 10 tackles and 6 sacks and that is what you are "noting"? It's not about me admitting that I'm wrong, it's about me believing that he can play. Certainly to this point he's been non existent but so were a lot of QBs at this point in their careers.

Not overreacting at all. You said, "Maybe Adrian Peterson but I think his o line is a big reason for his success." I couldn't disagree with you more on that. That's all and I wasn't comparing him to Barry Sanders.

I heard Shefter say that the Seahawks are very interested so I guess we'll see. Again, not saying the guy is going for 1200 and 10 tds but I do think he's better than Jones, Graham and Easly right now.

I'm not saying that he'd come in here and make the Pro Bowl. Is he better than what we have though? I think so. I wouldn't label TO a miscreant either. His upbringing would have effed anybody and he's never been able to shake that. If TO wasn't a repeat offender with all of the rumors swirling about suicide/child support/bankruptcy, he'd be on a team right now. The ability to play the game was never his problem and that's not up for debate.

Clausen is on the same team and backs up the best young QB in the game. Now LeFevour, the guy that you were clamoring for, is on his 4th team in two years and has yet to make a gameday roster. What exactly were the terms of our bet? If Cam goes down and Clausen steps in and plays well, I believe a delicious case of Sams Octoberfest is coming my way. Btw, Clausen would've been a WAYYYYYYY better pick than that big fat tub O GOO Troupe!

I think the reason why teams stay away from TO has nothing to do with his play. He could beat out any #2 on this team blindfolded.

I'm rooting for him. I'd love the Bills to sign him.

I don't care if Troupe makes the team and Carrington plays 10-15, drafts are judged on impact not filler. The guys you mentioned, outside of Spiller, are roster players 51-53. I wouldn't be so sure that Carrington is going to make it either. Right now he's running with the 3's and Heard outplayed him at the end of last year. You can give the draft an incomplete but you're really just delaying the inevitable. The 2010 draft gets an D-/F. Hopefully Buddy has learned his lesson and will not be spending an entire draft on small school guys.

Says the QB guru...

He played 2 seasons with Birk, the other Birk was injured. Bryant McKinnie has always been overrated. Hutch I'll give you even though he's not been the same the last two years. Barry Sanders played with Lomas Brown and Kevin Glover who were both pro bowlers. Did the line make him? You also left out the fact that his QBs have been awful outside of one season. He's played with Ferotte, Jackson (rookie), Holcomb, Favre (one great, one god awful), McNabb (cut during the season) and Ponder (rookie). I'm sure that he's seen his fair share of 8 man boxes. So if his "early success" is attributed to his O line, what has his recent success been attributed to? The golden arms of Ferotte, Ponder and Jackson?