Rico Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I'm not a big stat guy, but here's a sobering article for those who think Drew's stats will put him in the HOF. Cold, Hard Facts * Heading into the 2004 season, Bledsoe has posted a single-season passer rating of more than 80 just four times in 11 years. (Tom Brady has posted an 80-plus passer rating three times in three seasons.) * Bledsoe’s career passer rating of 76.8 ranks 18th among active quarterbacks with a 1,500 career attempts. (Brady’s career passer rating of 86.4 ranks puts him at a tie for ninth all time with Dan Marino.) * Bledsoe has led the league in pass attempts three times, completions twice, and passing yards just once. He’s never finished better than third in touchdown passes. (Brady has never led the league in pass attempts, completions or passing yards, but has already led the league once in touchdown passes.) * Bledsoe has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns in five of 11 seasons. (Brady has never thrown more interceptions than touchdowns over the course of a season and has a nearly 2 to1 touchdown to interception ratio in his career.) * Despite his reputation as a strong-armed gunslinger, Bledsoe has a career average of just 6.6 yards per pass attempt. (“Dink and dunk” passer Brady averages 6.7 yards per attempt in his career.) * Bledsoe has completed just 57.1 percent of the passes in his career, with a single-season best of 61.5 percent in 2002. (Brady’s career completion percentage is 61.9). * Bledsoe’s numbers in seven career postseasons games are dreadful: 129 for 252, 1,335 yards, 6 TDs, 12 INTs, and passer rating of 54.9 that makes even fraud Peyton Manning’s postseason performances look respectable. * In his one Super Bowl appearance, Bledsoe posted a line of 25 for 48 (52.1 percent), 253 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, and a 46.6 passer rating. He lost that game, 35-21. In two Super Bowl appearances, Brady has posted a line of 48 for 75 (64.0 percent), 499 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, and a 95.4 passer rating. He’s won both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 His Patriot memory that I always remember was the little dunk pass he threw to Pittsburghs Keevin Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 But, but it's not Dreeeeew's fault...It's his o-line, and his defense, and his receivers, and his mom. If all that was perfect, THEN you'd see how great Drew is...but only if every one else carries him. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 His Patriot memory that I always remember was the little dunk pass he threw to Pittsburghs Keevin Henry. 119294[/snapback] Ugh, don't remind me about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 His Patriot memory that I always remember was the little dunk pass he threw to Pittsburghs Keevin Henry. 119294[/snapback] Yeh but he bounced back in the playoff rematch vs. the Steelers that year.... Oh wait - no - they scored zero TD's and lost 7-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cal t Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yeh but he bounced back in the playoff rematch vs. the Steelers that year....Oh wait - no - they scored zero TD's and lost 7-6 119359[/snapback] Putting drew in the hall of fame would be like giving Yasir arafat the nobel peace prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 His Patriot memory that I always remember was the little dunk pass he threw to Pittsburghs Keevin Henry. 119294[/snapback] Love the Avatar T-80... Classic! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 He'll still get votes, although his time in Buffalo will probably only serve to lessen his chances.... That article is comparing him to Brady, not to the other QBs in the Hall. Whether or not Brady's better won't be the criteria used by the HOF selectors. Also, it spends a fair amount of time on passer ratings. Wanna guess how many HOF QBs have a lifetime passer rating that ranks in the all-time top 20? Try 5. John Elway is 33rd, behind such luminaries as Brian Griese, Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell. Far as Bledsoe's concerned, think Dan Fouts. Similar stats, and Fouts never won an AFC championship. So does Drew get in? Debatable... but even if he's not a HOF-caliber QB, it's a long drop-off from there to "never-was". JMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh_Guest Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1994 #1 in Passing Completions - 1994 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1995 #7 in Passing Completions - 1995 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1996 #1 in Passing Completions - 1996 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1997 #2 in Passing Completions - 1997 #8 in Passing Attempts - 1998 #8 in Passing Completions - 1998 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1999 #6 in Passing Completions - 1999 #8 in Passing Attempts - 2000 #8 in Passing Completions - 2000 #2 in Passing Attempts - 2002 #3 in Passing Completions - 2002 #1 in Passing Yards - 1994 #3 - 1996 #4 - 1997 #6 - 1998 #6 - 1999 #2 - 2002 #10 in Passing TDs - 1993 #4 - 1994 #3 - 1996 #3 - 1997 #10 - 1999 #7 - 2002 Among League's Top 50 of ALL TIME: #7 in Pass Attempts #9 in Completions #11 in Passing Yards #22 in Passing TDS #10 Single Season Passing Record - 4,555 in 1994. #18 Single Season Passing Record - 4,359 in 2002. #41 Single Season Passing Record - 4,086 in 1996. - Most passing attempts and completions in single game: 45 of 70 vs. Minn. - 1994. NO Interceptions. - Youngest player in NFL history to reach 10,000 yards passing (23 years old). - Made 3,921 pass attempts in his first seven seasons as a pro. This is more than any other quarterback during any seven-year period in NFL history. - Eclipsed the quarterback rating of 100.0 in 21 games during his career. - At the age of 22, he became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to play in the Pro Bowl. - Smashed every imaginable Patriots' passing record. - Broke 10 Bills Quarterbacking records in 2002. - NFL record 4 career TD passes in overtime. - 4x Pro Bowler - 4-3 in Post Season, One SB loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1994#1 in Passing Completions - 1994 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1995 #7 in Passing Completions - 1995 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1996 #1 in Passing Completions - 1996 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1997 #2 in Passing Completions - 1997 #8 in Passing Attempts - 1998 #8 in Passing Completions - 1998 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1999 #6 in Passing Completions - 1999 #8 in Passing Attempts - 2000 #8 in Passing Completions - 2000 #2 in Passing Attempts - 2002 #3 in Passing Completions - 2002 #1 in Passing Yards - 1994 #3 - 1996 #4 - 1997 #6 - 1998 #6 - 1999 #2 - 2002 #10 in Passing TDs - 1993 #4 - 1994 #3 - 1996 #3 - 1997 #10 - 1999 #7 - 2002 Among League's Top 50 of ALL TIME: #7 in Pass Attempts #9 in Completions #11 in Passing Yards #22 in Passing TDS #10 Single Season Passing Record - 4,555 in 1994. #18 Single Season Passing Record - 4,359 in 2002. #41 Single Season Passing Record - 4,086 in 1996. - Most passing attempts and completions in single game: 45 of 70 vs. Minn. - 1994. NO Interceptions. - Youngest player in NFL history to reach 10,000 yards passing (23 years old). - Made 3,921 pass attempts in his first seven seasons as a pro. This is more than any other quarterback during any seven-year period in NFL history. - Eclipsed the quarterback rating of 100.0 in 21 games during his career. - At the age of 22, he became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to play in the Pro Bowl. - Smashed every imaginable Patriots' passing record. - Broke 10 Bills Quarterbacking records in 2002. - NFL record 4 career TD passes in overtime. - 4x Pro Bowler - 4-3 in Post Season, One SB loss 119398[/snapback] anyone notice the important stats like....oh....his win loss record isn't listed. His record as a starter on the road. But hey....he will be right there with the Archie Mannings of the NFL, good stats, Can't win. And one small correction. You list 'Smashed every imaginable Patriots' passing record'. Really? how about completion %? TD to Int %? I am sure there are MANY that have been re written by Brady. Oh and add to that 0-1 vs 2-0 as a starter in Superbowls. Oh and this one... Brady = 2x Superbowl MVP. Please post things that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1994#1 in Passing Completions - 1994 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1995 #7 in Passing Completions - 1995 #1 in Passing Attempts - 1996 #1 in Passing Completions - 1996 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1997 #2 in Passing Completions - 1997 #8 in Passing Attempts - 1998 #8 in Passing Completions - 1998 #3 in Passing Attempts - 1999 #6 in Passing Completions - 1999 #8 in Passing Attempts - 2000 #8 in Passing Completions - 2000 #2 in Passing Attempts - 2002 #3 in Passing Completions - 2002 #1 in Passing Yards - 1994 #3 - 1996 #4 - 1997 #6 - 1998 #6 - 1999 #2 - 2002 #10 in Passing TDs - 1993 #4 - 1994 #3 - 1996 #3 - 1997 #10 - 1999 #7 - 2002 Among League's Top 50 of ALL TIME: #7 in Pass Attempts #9 in Completions #11 in Passing Yards #22 in Passing TDS #10 Single Season Passing Record - 4,555 in 1994. #18 Single Season Passing Record - 4,359 in 2002. #41 Single Season Passing Record - 4,086 in 1996. - Most passing attempts and completions in single game: 45 of 70 vs. Minn. - 1994. NO Interceptions. - Youngest player in NFL history to reach 10,000 yards passing (23 years old). - Made 3,921 pass attempts in his first seven seasons as a pro. This is more than any other quarterback during any seven-year period in NFL history. - Eclipsed the quarterback rating of 100.0 in 21 games during his career. - At the age of 22, he became the youngest quarterback in NFL history to play in the Pro Bowl. - Smashed every imaginable Patriots' passing record. - Broke 10 Bills Quarterbacking records in 2002. - NFL record 4 career TD passes in overtime. - 4x Pro Bowler - 4-3 in Post Season, One SB loss 119398[/snapback] A special note of thanks to the Bledsoe Family for their contribution to this thread... B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 A special note of thanks to the Bledsoe Family for their contribution to this thread... B) 119439[/snapback] Yeah no stevestojan. I was gonna ask if this WAS Bledsoe posting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Im not saying he's a HOFer....but saying Bledsoe is a "never was" is revisionist history at its best. Anyone who sits here and says he wouldnt take Bledsoe circa 1996 is full of stevestojan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Perhaps I should stop being lazy and register. . . My point was basically similar to the one mentioned above. . .he may not be a HOF Quarterback, but to call him a "never was" is quite the statement. Once again, as stated, if you had the chance to grab Bledsoe from the mid 90s, you would do it. He is obviously washed up now, but he was bumrushed by 3000 fans here in Buffalo for a reason when he was signed. I had those stats saved from an argument I made with someone at a different forum during training camp. Obviously, I feel a little more embarrassed after the Pats game. . .but give the guy some credit. He isn't RJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yeah no stevestojan. I was gonna ask if this WAS Bledsoe posting that 119444[/snapback] Well if Drew is reading the Wall tonight, he certainly is proving his reputation as a QB who can take a beating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 And one small correction. You list 'Smashed every imaginable Patriots' passing record'. Really? how about completion %? TD to Int %? I am sure there are MANY that have been re written by Brady. Oh and add to that 0-1 vs 2-0 as a starter in Superbowls. Oh and this one... Brady = 2x Superbowl MVP. Ummm, that's not a correction. At the time, Bledsoe DID smash every imaginable Patriots passing record. The fact that Brady may have taken some of them back doesn't mean that Bledsoe didn't do it first. And again, we're not comparing Bledsoe to Brady. If you take the W/L record, of COURSE Brady is going to beat every current QB out there. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 geezuz god... you mean all those things deeray's been saying for the past two seasons are true? Wow, who would have known? Is CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, HBO,ESPN now projecting or confirming that Bledsoe is indeed a loser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The guy is on the downside of a solid career and now you want to try and rip him and everything he has ever done apart. Maybe you should go visit Canton and check out the stats of some other HOF QBs before starting a moronic thread like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The guy is on the downside of a solid career and now you want to try and rip him and everything he has ever done apart. Maybe you should go visit Canton and check out the stats of some other HOF QBs before starting a moronic thread like this one. Coach... to use one of your favorites... "you're kidding, right"? Now, Bledsoe, HOF, mentioned in the same breath?? Well, if Bledsoe makes it into the HOF, then why shouldn't Jeff George???? George has a better career rating by at least 4 points. and if Jeff George makes it in there, then the HOF needs to be renamed the HOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Coach... to use one of your favorites... "you're kidding, right"? Now, Bledsoe, HOF, mentioned in the same breath?? Well, if Bledsoe makes it into the HOF, then why shouldn't Jeff George???? George has a better career rating by at least 4 points. and if Jeff George makes it in there, then the HOF needs to be renamed the HOS. 119719[/snapback] Way to point out only PART of the equation. Bledsoe has 11,000 more yards (35% more than George) and 56 more TDs. He's had 3 4000+ yard seasons and was 15 yards away from a 4th (George has none). Hell, Bledsoe has 3 times as many rushing TDs as George (6 vs 2). Passer rating is overated. See Lori's post: Wanna guess how many HOF QBs have a lifetime passer rating that ranks in the all-time top 20? Try 5. John Elway is 33rd, behind such luminaries as Brian Griese, Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell. Again, we all know Bledsoe isn't playing well this seaosn. To say that he's sucked throughout his career is just ignorance. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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