ThereIsNoDog Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Apparently the "holdup" in signing Maybin was because his agent, Joel Segal, was too busy with Michael Vick's deal and only started seriously negotiating just 3 days ago. How pathetic is that? http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/maybin_celebr...th_bills_090821 Bills sources tell News 4 the hold out lasted that long because Maybin's agent, Joel Segal, was tied-up with client Michael Vick. I don't know if I should still blame Maybin. Although I'm amazed that Maybin hasn't fired Segal over this, considering it cost him training camp, 3 pre-season games, and a lot of ill-will, for a contract that is 3-5X the size of Vick's, if not a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Apparently the "holdup" in signing Maybin was because his agent, Joel Segal, was too busy with Michael Vick's deal and only started seriously negotiating just 3 days ago. How pathetic is that? http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/maybin_celebr...th_bills_090821 I don't know if I should still blame Maybin. Although I'm amazed that Maybin hasn't fired Segal over this, considering it cost him training camp, 3 pre-season games, and a lot of ill-will, for a contract that is 3-5X the size of Vick's, if not a lot more. Wow... one of the few times I can claim to have sources deep within the organization! called it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wow... one of the few times I can claim to have sources deep within the organization! called it Dude, Skooby called it even before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I hate sports agents. Gotta respect a guy who negotiates his own contracts. Guys do it all the time in hockey, why not the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Dude, Skooby called it even before the draft. //raises fists to the sky while looking up and screams// SKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If that's really why the deal didn't get done until today, Aaron Maybin shouldn't fire his agent. He should sue his agent. That's sounding like malpractice; Segal was hired to represent Maybin, and if he lost Aaron money, he botched it with negligence. He's allowed to make a mistake, but he screwed the pooch if he just blew off Maybin's contact for Vick's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 If that's really why the deal didn't get done until today, Aaron Maybin shouldn't fire his agent. He should sue his agent. That's sounding like malpractice; Segal was hired to represent Maybin, and if he lost Aaron money, he botched it with negligence. He's allowed to make a mistake, but he screwed the pooch if he just blew off Maybin's contact for Vick's. I don't know if Segal really cost Maybin money, so much as he cost him experience. Hard to put a value on that. It's going to depend on how fast Maybin comes up to speed in the next 2-3 preseason games. But I agree with the overall sentiment that rookies command too much clout under this contract. Should Maybin have fired his agent? I can't say that I would have had that foresight and strategic grasp at 21 years old. He's relying on the advice of family and Arrington, and they're telling him to hold his cards. And now he's a rich, rich, rich young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I hate sports agents. Gotta respect a guy who negotiates his own contracts. Guys do it all the time in hockey, why not the NFL? Bruschi is his own agent. Care to re-think this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I hate sports agents. Gotta respect a guy who negotiates his own contracts. Guys do it all the time in hockey, why not the NFL? Last time I looked I was my own agent as well. Everytime I have changed jobs or looked for new positions I am the one responsible for negotiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Last time I looked I was my own agent as well. Everytime I have changed jobs or looked for new positions I am the one responsible for negotiating. Are your contracts 150 pages long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Are your contracts 150 pages long? Are professional athletes'? I'm not being a d*ick, I seriously find that interesting. I never thought they'd be more than maybe 10-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 This has to be the dumbest twist yet in the "why hadn't Maybin signed yet" saga. So, first , his "people" claim for weeks that Crabtree's obstinance was the holdup. Now a "Bills source" says that his agent was so busy negotiating Vick's contract that he couldn't come to the phone on behalf of Maybin? Who on Earth would belive this??!! Come on. Who would believe an agent would put his first round client on hold to "negotiate" a contract on behalf of a national disgrace for a backup QB position worth a couple of million bucks? Who would believe that, since Vick signed 8/14 and Maybin signed 8/21, "serious negotiations" only began 3 days before Maybin's signing? So, due to the sheer exhaustion from the intense Vick signing, his agent took 4 days off before he started with the Bills? What reporter wouldn't say "huh?" upon hearing this, instead of just dropping it in a brief article as if it is naturally credible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 THe money was always somewhat set in stone. The stubbling blocks in these contracts is the length of the contract which is 5 vs 6 years, guaranteed Money, and how much money is given in each year. Teams want to put more money in the last years of the contract versus the first years. Players want it the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Apparently the "holdup" in signing Maybin was because his agent, Joel Segal, was too busy with Michael Vick's deal and only started seriously negotiating just 3 days ago. How pathetic is that? http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/maybin_celebr...th_bills_090821 I don't know if I should still blame Maybin. Although I'm amazed that Maybin hasn't fired Segal over this, considering it cost him training camp, 3 pre-season games, and a lot of ill-will, for a contract that is 3-5X the size of Vick's, if not a lot more. If this is true, it would be the funniest, yet saddest, twist to this whole Maybin thing. Only in Bills Country..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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