Pitta Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 This is EXACTLY why we can't depend on rookies to improve the team in the first year. This is prescisely why I'm disappointed that so many people have high hopes for rookies, and think our team will be better. I think the team will be worse (7-9 would be a good season IMHO), and I'm not happy about it. Going into the offseason we needed serious help on o-line, d-line (end in particluar), and LB. The two positions we significantly addressed in FA were center and WR. We did precious little otherwise. The moves made this offseason weren't made with any sense of urgency about winning this year. You can't do the same thing year after year and expect to improve. Nelson may end up being a great player in a few years, but if you have to limit his exposure to the field because can't block, we're screwed. Our problems at TE continue. Christ, I bet we'll even miss Robert Royal and Lonnie Johnson. Bottom line: Potential doesn't win football games. All rookies have is potential, and can't be depended on to contribute in year one and probably not year two. Adding a center, switching a pro-bowl T for a pro-bowl WR while at the same time depending on a new batch of rookies to perform isn't a good plan to win in '09. Eggzaklee! If we can get the two rookies to be starting Guards all season, we should consider ourselves lucky. We needed to do much more in FA to compete this year. This is a 5-11 team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 it seems that team rarely draft players that are ready to play at a high level. I can't even think of the last one that did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 it seems that team rarely draft players that are ready to play at a high level. I can't even think of the last one that did. Marshawn Lynch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 funny, Chris Brown in his chat just was talking about how Nelson has been doing well If you are looking for unbiased information then don't read or listen to Chris Brown. If you only want to hear the most optimistic news and propaganda from One Bills Drive then by all means read Chris Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 I must be "most people" because I think that they are a very poor combination. Can anyone name ANY other team with a worse TE situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Yeah, this basically reaffirms what most fans expected. should be no problem with that extra pre-season game, he should be ready to go by game 1. good thing Dick is maximizing use of those 2-a-days to get the rookies prepared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hopefully he will catch on fast now that he is in camp. I get the feeling that this is probably true, that he probably is pretty unpolished though physically gifted. On his blog, Chris Brown seems to have been saying the same thing, working to downplay expectations of his production this year. I've got high hopes for him in the future, but from the sound of it, I don't think he'll see much more than spot receiving duty and ST work this year. It seems everyone we sign is "unpolished" and the coaches cant ever seem to find any brasso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If he ain't blockin, he ain't playing. Shawn Nelson required extra attention throughout much of his college career because of his excellent receiving skills. So it wouldn't surprise me to see him used some in the passing game as he's being groomed to fill the traditional TE duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hopefully he will catch on fast now that he is in camp. I get the feeling that this is probably true, that he probably is pretty unpolished though physically gifted. On his blog, Chris Brown seems to have been saying the same thing, working to downplay expectations of his production this year. I've got high hopes for him in the future, but from the sound of it, I don't think he'll see much more than spot receiving duty and ST work this year. Weren't we saying the same thing about bust to be James Hardy last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Weren't we saying the same thing about bust to be James Hardy last year. Since when have 2nd rounders started to be given the "bust" title? I thought that was reserved for 1st round picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Fergy Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If he ain't blockin, he ain't playing. Not true he is lining up next to TO and is looking very good on routes and great hands and SPEED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 Just a reminder. July 28th is not the day to panic over a football season. When Aaron Schobel joined the Bills in 2001 as a 2nd round draft pick, he flat out said he felt like he "didn't belong in the NFL" after practicing with NFL caliber players. On the other hand, there are guys like Kwame Cavil - practice squad champions - who have awe inspiring performances without pads; yet he's a free agent in the CFL now. Let it play out. Panic later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 It seems everyone we sign is "unpolished" and the coaches cant ever seem to find any brasso. Stroud, Rhodes, Owens, Mitchell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billistic Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I guess that it's technically possible, but I doubt that Nelson can contribute less than James Hardly did last year. Maybin's got an easier match up, going against Chris Ellis' "mark". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billistic Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Stroud, Rhodes, Owens, Mitchell? For every Stroud, there's been a Tripplett. For every Rhodes, there's been a A-train. For every Owens, there's been a Peerless. For every Mitchell, there've been 5 guys on Bobby April's STs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I must be "most people" because I think that they are a very poor combination. Can anyone name ANY other team with a worse TE situation? The Cleveland Browns have Robert Royal starting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 The Cleveland Browns have Robert Royal starting... You're point is? Oh. We could be worse off than we already are. We could have Mangini as a coach and Royal as our TE. Who's their QB again? And their best WR drops the ball more than he catches it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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