Thank You All Who Voted

[KRC]

KRC-

Will you receive some kind of printout of the votes you recieved?  I always wondered how the Ind's, non-GOP, and non-Dem candidates get word of their results.

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Nope. No printout. I need to hunt down the results. They will be published by someone, at some point, but there is no way to determine when that will happen.

 

It will be interesting to see if the votes are counted. I have received confirmed votes from across the country and I want to make sure that all of those votes are counted. Unfortunately, there is no way for me to determine if ALL of my votes were counted, but I know of some that I can use as a gauge.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

This is great news indeed.  Do you feel that we will now be able to bring down the hammer to a greater extent in Iraq now that the political ramifications of any move made have been removed from the equation?

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This is what I'm hoping for. The Iron fist in Iraq. Show the "insurgents" what the price of killing Americans is.

[Simon]

Wow, you're not too bitter now are you?

Judging from the plethora of your "classy" posts this morning, I can guarantee you that I'm far less bitter than you would have been had moron#2 got a few more voted in Ohio. Or in your eagerness to bash all that is not exactly like you, did you fail to notice the smiley's in all my posts?

 

Better a leader like you described than a panty-waisted, treasonous, flip-flopping, gay-lover

Yeah, now if we can just get rid of all these fags, jews and !@#$s, we'll have the kind of America that all us real people can be proud of!

BTW, your boy is one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen in the White House;-)

 

Cya

[KRC]

I know you know "a bit" about N Korea.  Do you expect it will be kind of scary-interesting or more fascinating-interesting?

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Too many variables for me to accurately answer that question. The ball is in the DPRK's court, and it depends on how they play it. It will then depend on how Bush plays it from there.

 

There are obviously two possible scenarios here:

 

1) They concede to the pressure from the other parties, and start working with the U.S.

 

2) They feel that they will not get what they want, and will try more desperate tactics in order to scare Bush into conceding.

 

My gut reaction has me leaning towards the first, but Bush will need to give the DPRK a way to save face. If Bush keeps playing hardball, expect (1) to turn into (2).

[Paco]

BTW, your boy is one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen in the White House;-)

 

Were you asleep during Clinton's terms? You wanna talk about pussies in the White House.

 

"Oh, we got attacked by terrorists. Let's toss a little bomb on them. THAT will get them."

 

Bush is a lot of things, Simon, but a kitty isn't one of them.

[Paco]

Too many variables for me to accurately answer that question. The ball is in the DPRK's court, and it depends on how they play it. It will then depend on how Bush plays it from there.

 

There are obviously two possible scenarios here:

 

1) They concede to the pressure from the other parties, and start working with the U.S.

 

2) They feel that they will not get what they want, and will try more desperate tactics in order to scare Bush into conceding.

 

My gut reaction has me leaning towards the first, but Bush will need to give the DPRK a way to save face. If Bush keeps playing hardball, expect (1) to turn into (2).

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But I think we can all agree that Kerry's approach to North Korea would have been the most dangerous, no?

[KRC]

But I think we can all agree that Kerry's approach to North Korea would have been the most dangerous, no?

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IMO, yes. It would be nothing more than a repeat of the Clinton approach, which is what allowed them to get the nukes in the first place.

[Simon]

Were you asleep during Clinton's terms? You wanna talk about pussies in the White House.

Not sure what Clinton has to do with anything, but yes he was a kitty, too.

 

Bush is a lot of things, Simon, but a kitty isn't one of them.

We must have different definitions of the term kitty.

Can you name me one single instance where Bush has ever shown any personal grit? And I'm not talking about his empty rhetoric and tough talk from a plush chair.

[DC Tom]

Not sure what Clinton has to do with anything, but yes he was a kitty, too.

We must have different definitions of the term kitty.

Can you name me one single instance where Bush has ever shown any personal grit? And I'm not talking about his empty rhetoric and tough talk from a plush chair.

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He beat a substance abuse problem. Whatever else you might say about it, it takes some serious cojones to kick an addiction.

[Simon]

He beat a substance abuse problem. Whatever else you might say about it, it takes some serious cojones to kick an addiction.

 

If that were tha case, I'd give him props for it.

But just because he did some coke, does not mean he was seriously addicted or actually had a substance abuse problem.

There's plenty of people in this world who partied like that in their youth and then quit as they got older. Not all of them were addicts, nor are all of them necessarily tough for simply growing up.

Cya

[KRC]

If that were tha case, I'd give him props for it.

But just because he did some coke, does not mean he was seriously addicted or actually had a substance abuse problem.

There's plenty of people in this world who partied like that in their youth and then quit as they got older. Not all of them were addicts, nor are all of them necessarily tough for  simply growing up.

Cya

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I thought he had an alcohol thing, as well?

[VABills]

If that were tha case, I'd give him props for it.

But just because he did some coke, does not mean he was seriously addicted or actually had a substance abuse problem.

There's plenty of people in this world who partied like that in their youth and then quit as they got older. Not all of them were addicts, nor are all of them necessarily tough for  simply growing up.

Cya

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He is an admitted alchoholic. He will not drink any at all.

[Paco]

Not sure what Clinton has to do with anything, but yes he was a kitty, too.

We must have different definitions of the term kitty.

Can you name me one single instance where Bush has ever shown any personal grit? And I'm not talking about his empty rhetoric and tough talk from a plush chair.

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We'll disagree about this forever, Simon, but I will at least answer your question: I think, for better or worse, Bush has shown a crapload of grit since 9/11. Yes, we've had mistakes made, but I believe we're fighting a different war than we've ever fought and I think it's natural that mistakes will be made. What's important is that we recognize the mistakes internally, adjust, and move forward.

 

We're not fighting a country. We're fighting an idea. In my opinion, that's a tough sell, but he sells this based on his resolve and I'm of the opinion, right or wrong, that it's a war that had to be fought sooner or later. This guy chose to fight it despite how popular it makes him look today. That, to me, displays grit.

 

(I only brought up Clinton because of your reference to the biggest kitty ever in the White House. I believe Clinton was far and away a much bigger kitty than GW. Much bigger. Clinton, particularly in his second term, was all about the legacy and not about the American people.)

[Simon]

I would hardly call sending kids into battle and then standing back and spouting platitudes like "Bring 'em on" to be the measure of grit. It's nothing more than puffy-chested grandstanding.

And when he chose to fight this war, it was hardly as if he was swimming upstream. He was simply pandering to the lowest common denominator that wanted to see any kind of bloodshed in response to 9/11.

 

The reason I think he's a kitty is that he's never had to do anything for himself. First he's a deserter while America is at war. Then his daddy gets him out of that and spends the rest of his adult life getting him wahtever 'lil Goergie wants, whether it be a baseball team or political office. Then he spends his life playing tough guy whether it's executing people or pretending he knows how to use an axe on EarthDay or strutting around in flightsuits, all the while cutting combat pay and vetbenefits. Have you ever seen the man in a hospital dealing with the wounded or is he only available to pose with those on their way into combat?

My personal favorite was the clip where he's got this tiny chainsaw with this little 12" bar and he's prancing around trying to cut a 3" branch. When he finally finishes he rips his protective safety goggles off and acts like that's the toughest thing he's ever done in his life. Go get 'em tough guy!!!

[GG]

I can't imagine what these self-righteous, spoiled-rotten chickenhawks will attempt next without the spectre of re-election hovering over them.

Cya

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Actually, on the fiscal front they'll be able to finally put forth proposals to slow down the looming SS & healthcare trainwrecks, along with a stronger effort at tax reform.

[Simon]

Actually, on the fiscal front they'll be able to finally put forth proposals to slow down the looming SS & healthcare trainwrecks, along with a stronger effort at tax reform.

 

Any positive advancements in domestic policy would be a refreshing change indeed.

However I'm hesitant to revel in the thought of a bunch of self-important multi-millionaires and corporate whores making policy that will never affect them and will have a real bearing on the lives of many with whom they have nothing in common and seem to care little for.

[GG]

However I'm hesitant to revel in the thought of a bunch of self-important multi-millionaires and corporate whores making policy that will never affect them and will have a real bearing on the lives of many with whom they have nothing in common and seem to care little for.

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You just described a highly progressive tax code with countless deductions.

[Simon]

You just described a highly progressive tax code with countless deductions.

 

I'm not sure what your definition of highly progressive is, but do you think this administration is capable of enacting legislation that's best for a country largely made up of shift workers, wage slaves and people still getting paid by the hour?

[DC Tom]

I thought he had an alcohol thing, as well?

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Alcohol was actually what I was referring to, not coke.

[DC Tom]

I'm not sure what your definition of highly progressive is, but do you think this administration is capable of enacting legislation that's best for a country largely made up of shift workers, wage slaves and people still getting paid by the hour?

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No...if only because it's Congress' job to enact legislation.

 

Not that the Republican-controlled congress is going to, either. I'd be much happier about this election if the Democrats had gained control of the house or senate while Bush won the White House.

 

Still...thank God Kerry's foreign policy will never see the light of day.