UConn James Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 To celebrate Jesus we should do what he did to the weak minded. He mocked them and judged them and told everyone how much better he was than them. I think you've eaten too many Magentas. Jesus would tell people the misguidedness of their ways, often by relating a parable to influence how people thought and acted. (Eventually, people in high places got sick of this kindness, love & peace/hippie/commie spiel and hung his ass on a cross). But he also had no tolerance for consumerism in place of religion. Hence, when he flipped over the market tables that were in the church yard and said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto the Lord what is the Lord's!" Just in case you ran out of Burnt Umbers which stimulate your brainpower, "what is Caesar's" was money, "what is the Lord's" was people's mortal souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I think you've eaten too many Magentas. Jesus would tell people the misguidedness of their ways, often by relating a parable to influence how people thought and acted. (Eventually, people in high places got sick of this kindness, love & peace/hippie/commie spiel and hung his ass on a cross). But he also had no tolerance for consumerism in place of religion. Hence, when he flipped over the market tables that were in the church yard and said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto the Lord what is the Lord's!" Just in case you ran out of Burnt Umbers which stimulate your brainpower, "what is Caesar's" was money, "what is the Lord's" was people's mortal souls. The bible is a document made by man. Not all of what was said made it through. He probably said: Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto the Lord what is the Lord's! Then lock these tards in a Wal-Mart like Chalkie said. Give it about four weeks. Or something like that. One thing is for sure, he was definitely cool with people who give "thoughtful" gifts and then mock the actions of others. He liked that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Not saying youre doing this, deb...but I do find it funny that a lot of the same people who rail against and mock those who choose to "Keep Christ in Christmas" and psuh hard to make it more of a so-called "inclusive" and whitewashed day are the same people who ALSO rail against events like these. IMO, they ARE connected. You want to make Christmas LESS of a solemn day and make it MORE of a secular "free for all?" Want to make it more about store sales with 50% off and stampedes and office parties where people get too drunk, then expect stuff like this to take place. When you bastardize the meaning of something, especially when you do so intentionally, you often get VERY undesirable side effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I think someone is approaching menopause. (ducks to avoid being hit with the dishes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not saying youre doing this, deb...but I do find it funny that a lot of the same people who rail against and mock those who choose to "Keep Christ in Christmas" and psuh hard to make it more of a so-called "inclusive" and whitewashed day are the same people who ALSO rail against events like these. IMO, they ARE connected. You want to make Christmas LESS of a solemn day and make it MORE of a secular "free for all?" Want to make it more about store sales with 50% off and stampedes and office parties where people get too drunk, then expect stuff like this to take place. When you bastardize the meaning of something, especially when you do so intentionally, you often get VERY undesirable side effects. So, somehow....this is the fault of liberals? Kool aid, get your kool aid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 So, somehow....this is the fault of liberals? Kool aid, get your kool aid! Lame response. Obviously there is plenty of blame to go around, but he has a point. You can't bash the religious aspect of Christmas out of public consciousness and then wonder why everyone treats it only as a 'holiday' of consumerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Lame response. Obviously there is plenty of blame to go around, but he has a point. You can't bash the religious aspect of Christmas out of public consciousness and then wonder why everyone treats it only as a 'holiday' of consumerism. no no no. No way does removing of public, religious observation of the majorities view on religion from the public sector have anything at all to the idea that businesses want to make a killing at Christmas. People are allowed to fully relish in the mystical aspect of Christmas. No one has taken that away. It's only been pushed back from attempts to push that on everyone. Churches are still open as far as I can see. Really, who has more advertising reach, businesses that drownd us in tv commercials, junk mail and or advertising, or the ACLU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Lame response. Obviously there is plenty of blame to go around, but he has a point. You can't bash the religious aspect of Christmas out of public consciousness and then wonder why everyone treats it only as a 'holiday' of consumerism. It's good to see that the Christians faith in their savior is so fragile that a retailer saying "Happy Holidays" has the power to send them into a full blown crisis of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 no no no. No way does removing of public, religious observation of the majorities view on religion from the public sector have anything at all to the idea that businesses want to make a killing at Christmas. People are allowed to fully relish in the mystical aspect of Christmas. No one has taken that away. It's only been pushed back from attempts to push that on everyone. Churches are still open as far as I can see. Really, who has more advertising reach, businesses that drownd us in tv commercials, junk mail and or advertising, or the ACLU? We're not comparing more or less here. I am not suggesting that the commercialism of Christmas isn't largely a result of the advertising overload of product manufacturers. But you are wrong to think that the impact of that advertising has not been enhanced by the removal of the religious aspect of the holiday from the public view. And spare me the 'push that on everyone' nonsense. No one is forced to enter a church as far as I can see. Or does this mean you think Christmas shouldn't be a holiday at all? Why is the government closed? Why is everyone off work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It's good to see that the Christians faith in their savior is so fragile that a retailer saying "Happy Holidays" has the power to send them into a full blown crisis of faith. Good to see that your perfect record of failing to comprehend anything or offer any intelligent response is still intact. Zero for 1500 -- that's quite an accomplishment. Maybe you should have provided a link to buffer your staggering credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good to see that your perfect record of failing to comprehend anything or offer any intelligent response is still intact. Zero for 1500 -- that's quite an accomplishment. Maybe you should have provided a link to buffer your staggering credibility. "Uh Oh, DC Tom is offline and I need to come up with a witty retort on my own! What do I do??????" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not saying youre doing this, deb...but I do find it funny that a lot of the same people who rail against and mock those who choose to "Keep Christ in Christmas" and psuh hard to make it more of a so-called "inclusive" and whitewashed day are the same people who ALSO rail against events like these. IMO, they ARE connected. You want to make Christmas LESS of a solemn day and make it MORE of a secular "free for all?" Want to make it more about store sales with 50% off and stampedes and office parties where people get too drunk, then expect stuff like this to take place. When you bastardize the meaning of something, especially when you do so intentionally, you often get VERY undesirable side effects. Great point! Had only the guy who opened the door said "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" this never would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 We're not comparing more or less here. I am not suggesting that the commercialism of Christmas isn't largely a result of the advertising overload of product manufacturers. But you are wrong to think that the impact of that advertising has not been enhanced by the removal of the religious aspect of the holiday from the public view. And spare me the 'push that on everyone' nonsense. No one is forced to enter a church as far as I can see. Or does this mean you think Christmas shouldn't be a holiday at all? Why is the government closed? Why is everyone off work? Yup, and no one is forced to pray in schools, see Christian icons in PUBLIC buildngs, etc. That would be an attempt to impose religion on people. Hell, forcing that stuff on the rest of us might increase intensity of a not very "holiday spirit." As for the holiday and time off, I really don't think having to not work is forcing a religious view on anyone. Its a winter break and not objectionable to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Great point! Had only the guy who opened the door said "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" this never would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yup, and no one is forced to pray in schools, see Christian icons in PUBLIC buildngs, etc. That would be an attempt to impose religion on people. Hell, forcing that stuff on the rest of us might increase intensity of a not very "holiday spirit." As for the holiday and time off, I really don't think having to not work is forcing a religious view on anyone. Its a winter break and not objectionable to people. People are forced to pray in schools? Where exactly? Oh, so a Christmas break is ok as long as the 'I'm offended' crowd doesn't have to go to work. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The two resident idiots COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT. Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The two resident idiots COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT. Shocker. I realize attempting to exchange ideas here is fairly useless, but I figured unlike the linking retard, at least molson has the ability to read and understand. Anyhoo...time to do some work. For you that means get back to folding the sweater LinkBoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 We're not comparing more or less here. I am not suggesting that the commercialism of Christmas isn't largely a result of the advertising overload of product manufacturers. But you are wrong to think that the impact of that advertising has not been enhanced by the removal of the religious aspect of the holiday from the public view. And spare me the 'push that on everyone' nonsense. No one is forced to enter a church as far as I can see. Or does this mean you think Christmas shouldn't be a holiday at all? Why is the government closed? Why is everyone off work? So I take it you're not a capitalist then, right? The two resident idiots COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT. Shocker. "Point"? Don't give yourself too much credit. It was more like an incoherent moronic rant than a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 People are forced to pray in schools? Where exactly? Oh, so a Christmas break is ok as long as the 'I'm offended' crowd doesn't have to go to work. Got it. Funny how they want the benefits of the day and the season. you BETTER invite all these folks to the parties, the parades, givem them the day off, all that stuff. But show them the TRUE REASON for all those good things...show them a few statues of a man, woman and a baby in a straw hut and all of a sudden, then get a little squirmy, like vampires exposed to the sun. I pity them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 People are forced to pray in schools? Where exactly? Oh, so a Christmas break is ok as long as the 'I'm offended' crowd doesn't have to go to work. Got it. No they are not, that's my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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