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Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself? Take a look at the stats, he has been on of the most consistent performers on our defense. Sacks are not the only measure of a productive player.

 

Douche bag.

Ya, I'm a big boy, dork

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Ya, I'm a big boy, dork

 

 

Then please try to add something of substance and value to the conversation. "Schobel is a douche bag" has to be one of the most low brow things I have read on this board in recent memory. If you have a difference of opinion with something that is said, make a statement that doesn't include words like "douche bag" and back it up with something factual.

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Then please try to add something of substance and value to the conversation. "Schobel is a douche bag" has to be one of the most low brow things I have read on this board in recent memory. If you have a difference of opinion with something that is said, make a statement that doesn't include words like "douche bag" and back it up with something factual.

I am. Have you ever heard that guy talk to the public? He sounds like a total prick and doesn't not have a good attitude. And apparently, he doesn't have a good reputation around the league unlike all these announcers would have you believe.

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I am. Have you ever heard that guy talk to the public? He sounds like a total prick and doesn't not have a good attitude. And apparently, he doesn't have a good reputation around the league unlike all these announcers would have you believe.

 

 

If that is your opinion, state it that way. I am all for the open exchange of opinions and ideas, but your original post didn't explain that in any way. How was one supposed to read "Schobel is a douche bag" and know you meant "He sounds like a total prick and doesn't not have a good attitude. And apparently, he doesn't have a good reputation around the league?"

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If that is your opinion, state it that way. I am all for the open exchange of opinions and ideas, but your original post didn't explain that in any way. How was one supposed to read "Schobel is a douche bag" and know you meant "He sounds like a total prick and doesn't not have a good attitude. And apparently, he doesn't have a good reputation around the league?"

 

 

Anyone can see that's what he meant by the douchebag comment.

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I like Schobel. He's a high motored guy, usually pretty good against the run, and when he's hot, he's hot. Last year, him and Kelsay played almost every snap of the first eight games because we didn't have any backups. His stats were low for a reason. And just because he isn't getting sacks doesn't necessarily mean he's not getting pressure.

 

That being said, I don't think I would put Schobel up there in the top 5 DE category; I don't know if you could put him in the top 7. The top guys consistently get pressure on the quarterback game in and game out. With Schobel, it is a lot of streakiness in his game.

 

I consider him more of a Phil Hansen guy, but obviously better. I've been saying for years that I think the Bills need that crazy, big and nasty compliment to Schobel that terrorizes quarterbacks and allows him to not be doubleteamed. Granted, you have to give a lot of credit to the guy for being the only name on that line the last couple of years.

 

My other criticism of Schobel is leadership. There's a reason why Chris Kelsay is a captain and Schobel is not. You can pass it off that Schobel is a soft spoken guy, but you expect the guy that was the highest paid player on your team (that goes to Lee now) to at least take some sort of leadership role.

 

I've never once (correct me if I'm wrong) heard Schobel shoulder any blame in one game over the past eight years. What I do hear is jaded talk and a defensive attitude about his play. I'm not quite sold on the fact that the other players on the defense like the guy too much. I think sometimes he can take a petulant childish attitude towards the game.

 

I'm not sold on the fact that he wants to be in Buffalo either (other than the fact that he's making 7 mil a year (who would turn that down). He's seen so many tough years, I wouldn't blame the guy. I wouldn't be suprised that when the two sides do (if they do) part ways, Schobel might take some cheap shots out the door (a la Miro Satan).

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Last year, him and Kelsay played almost every snap of the first eight games because we didn't have any backups.

Not true. There were plenty of times early in the season when the long snapper/alleged DE O'Neill was in the game because the DL coach was hell bent on his rotation.

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It's not a joke. I was having a fit last year when they kept trotting O'Neill out there to play DE.

 

Yes I remember, but I would hardly call it a "rotation." I watched every game last year, and I don't remember him on the field for more than 5 plays. Could be wrong of course.

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ESPN.com says he had 10 total tackles last year. So I guess it was more than 5 plays, but I still don't remember him playing all that much in a "rotation." I also remember Schobel and Kelsay playing almost every snap in the first 8 games. Too bad they don't keep those kind of stats.

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