downsoufbfan Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 This is going to be fun, Can't wait for NFL live tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_Chick Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 oh jesus, i can't even watch that crap anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 "Maybe old man Marv thought he was selling railroad spikes instead of TKO Spikes because he got robbed in the deal, boo ya! Ralph Wilson is a baby." -ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 you guys are seriously begging to wine and complain and play the underdog/martyrs. Â EVERY article ive seen has said its a good trade. Â dont be so sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 the things said on espn are as fleeting as a fart in the wind. This board keeps their commentary alive longer than the natural shelf life of an ESPN comment. The Bills got the better end of this trade. It's about SYSTEMS. Holcomb isn't well suited for this offense, and Spikes isn't a good fit for the T2. He's also expensive for the risk involved in handing him the starting spot, and the number of players who have returned to their original form after an Achilles injury can be counted on one hand. That's in NFL history, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downsoufbfan Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 you guys are seriously begging to wine and complain and play the underdog/martyrs. EVERY article ive seen has said its a good trade.  dont be so sensitive. I think it's a good trade myself, so i agree wit cha doc. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 First of all, SO WHAT? Â But, I don't think so, on this one. Â I'd prefer the criticism and the doubt. Fly UNDER the rader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I think it's a good trade myself, so i agree wit cha doc. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Â not really, but ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 not really, but ok. Â Â Â You slay me, Dank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 My football smarts aren't as good as many on this board, so can someone please explain to me how losing TKO is a good move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007  You slay me, Dank  im a fan of yours myself, broseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 My football smarts aren't as good as many on this board, so can someone please explain to me how losing TKO is a good move? Â Â in the time it would take any of us to RE-TYPE for the 1000th time why. you could EASILY go read any/all of the threads and articles about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downsoufbfan Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Yall Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 in the time it would take any of us to RE-TYPE for the 1000th time why. you could EASILY go read any/all of the threads and articles about it  Found the Chris Brown blog. Thanks  Okay, who are are starting linbackers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 It has been a very long day .... which site/thread here has the best review? Thanks  i dont know, any of them from the front page?  basically:  HUGE lack of production over the past 2 years. yes that was due to injury but thats more reason to trade him. his cap hit was RIDICULOUS, over $6mil/yr for this year and next and there is no telling if he'll ever really comeback from the Achilles. most signs point to no.  Walker is a high-character guy and has had good, consistent production. hes VERY SMART and seems very down to earth. he's "our" type of guy. upgrading the DTs was not only a need, but doing so will also make it MUCH easier for our LBs, especially since its almost a sure thing we will have a rookie out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Found the Chris Brown blog. Thanks  Okay, who are are starting linbackers?  cool, i wasnt trying to be a dick about it either.  starting LBs??? ellison/rookie/crowell or ellison/crowell/rookie  we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe78 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 This is going to be fun, Can't wait for NFL live tommorow. Â Why, TKO has been non -existent that last 2 seasons. Perhaps we can finally stop the run now! 'formally dajuice' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 and the number of players who have returned to their original form after an Achilles injury can be counted on one hand. That's in NFL history, by the way. Â How were those achille medical/rehab procedures back in da day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 This is going to be fun, Can't wait for NFL live tommorow. SPORTCENTER TONIGHT @ 11 PM. WATCH IT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 i think marv and tom modrak will have the last laugh on espn...at some point they will be on the marv and bills bandwagon!they will have to after each time they diss a bills move and each time the move works for the bills.i predict by the 2008 draft marv will have earned the media's respect.go marv and go bills in"07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Gun10 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I really believe all this team needs is a another rb and a stud linebacker and this team is going to get better, with the new o-line in place our offense will be on the field longer which will make our d better and i have faith in our young corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I heard nothing so far from 11pm Sportscenter on the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 i think marv and tom modrak will have the last laugh on espn...at some point they will be on the marv and bills bandwagon!they will have to after each time they diss a bills move and each time the move works for the bills.i predict by the 2008 draft marv will have earned the media's respect.go marv and go bills in"07 Â Â That's the way it went in Marv's first tenure with the Bills. Â The consensus was, it was a mistake to hire this former ST coach who failed as a HC n KC. The Bills moves and decisions were regularly criticized. Eventually, the Bills started to get praised for their moves (not to the extent NE is now, of course). Â I expect to see this same "evolution" of thought over the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquix Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 you guys are seriously begging to wine and complain and play the underdog/martyrs. EVERY article ive seen has said its a good trade.  dont be so sensitive.  Thank goodness someone said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 ESPN was mad at us for passig on Winston Justice and lok how well he played last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 ESPN was mad at us for passig on Winston Justice and lok how well he played last year. Â Â Who? Does he have a daytime court show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyk12 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 In the long run, the defense should be better but for 2007? I am skeptical...  No more  Fletcher Spikes Clements   That is a lot of leadership, class, and toughness gone from the team.  The replacements:  Willis (maybe) Ellison Youboty   a lot of ifs in that group although Willis could be a stud...   The 1st 2 picks better be LB/RB or RB/LB to fill those two gaping holes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgun Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 That's the way it went in Marv's first tenure with the Bills. The consensus was, it was a mistake to hire this former ST coach who failed as a HC n KC. The Bills moves and decisions were regularly criticized. Eventually, the Bills started to get praised for their moves (not to the extent NE is now, of course).   Yea, but those moves were more Polian & Butler than Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 In Marv We Trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgun Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Who? Does he have a daytime court show? Â Â No, he is on the FRIGGIN IGGLES AS WELL!@!!!!!!W#@#!#@$$@#$ FUCCCCCCCCCCC THE IGGGGGLESSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Yea, but those moves were more Polian & Butler than Levy   Keep believing that. Marv had major input on EVERY move during his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 No, he is on the FRIGGIN IGGLES AS WELL!@!!!!!!W#@#!#@$$@#$ FUCCCCCCCCCCC THE IGGGGGLESSS. Â Â Oh...my bad. Â :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgun Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Keep believing that. Marv had major input on EVERY move during his tenure. Â Â Well Dean, time will be the true testement of your speak. I am not going anywhere, but all of our defensive leadership has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquix Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Keep believing that. Marv had major input on EVERY move during his tenure. Â Do you have any proof for that comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Do you have any proof for that comment? Â Do you have any proof of the opposite? Â I would suspect that the head coach would have input on every decision made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Do you have any proof for that comment? There are literally 1000's of articles that back this up. But I will relate one simple story in one sentence: Marv was not convinced we needed to bet the farm on Cornelius Bennett and Polian had to convince him it was a good deal. Polian is on record as saying that he had to convince Marv to move forward with that deal. Why? Because they all worked as a team. Hell, I was in just barely in college in 1990 and this was all you heard about at the time - to the point that my non-Bills fan buddies would sing "kumbayah" whenever they would run the story about the Bills organization "getting along" and working together, because they were tired of hearing it. Â That enough? Or do we need to haul out the files for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Found the Chris Brown blog. Thanks  Okay, who are are starting linbackers?   Crowell > Willis > Alexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 There are literally 1000's of articles that back this up. But I will relate one simple story in one sentence: Marv was not convinced we needed to bet the farm on Cornelius Bennett and Polian had to convince him it was a good deal. Polian is on record as saying that he had to convince Marv to move forward with that deal. Why? Because they all worked as a team. Hell, I was in just barely in college in 1990 and this was all you heard about at the time - to the point that my non-Bills fan buddies would sing "kumbayah" whenever they would run the story about the Bills organization "getting along" and working together, because they were tired of hearing it. Â That enough? Or do we need to haul out the files for you? Â Â Thanks for the back up, OC, and BlueFire, too. If you lived through Marv's last tenure with the Bills, and paid attention, you would just KNOW this. Marv's always used the team approach to management. Â Every HC has input into personnel decisions, some more that others, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thanks for the back up, OC, and BlueFire, too. If you lived through Marv's last tenure with the Bills, and paid attention, you would just KNOW this. Marv's always used the team approach to management. Â Every HC has input into personnel decisions, some more that others, of course. Â Yes, it's rather absurd to say that Marv had no input in personnel decisions in those days, considering how Polian has been quoted as crediting ol Marv for a lot of his football acumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I heard nothing so far from 11pm Sportscenter on the trade. I guess it must not have happened, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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