BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Marv has explained a few times here and there what he means by "character" and he isn't talking about their boy scout record. Marv had plenty of players whose "football character" he admired but whose basic character was not so good. Bruce Smith's trouble with alcohol and at least one drug suspension as I recall come to mind. Didn't Marv draft Moulds? Moulds was considered an off the field problem player when we took him but no one ever doubted his conduct on the field. Marv wants guys who are committed to winning, not just making big bucks. Reed, Kelly, Smith, Thurman and even Moulds for that matter, took winning and losing far more seriously than contract negotiations. Those guys seriously would have rather died than lose a single game. When they played, they gave it all and on every play. They all had chips on their shoulders and would kill you before they would let you knock it off. That's what Marv means by "character." Then "character" describes Marshawn Lynch, as those of us on the West Coastwho saw him play can attest. Not saying he is a must take, the Bills would know much better than us, but this guy was a real gamer and gave his heart in to the game. If the Bills do get him what you will see is a guy fighting for that extra yard. He is a football player ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The charges were dropped against Lynch by the DA because there was not enough evidence. I love the idea that if someone says something bad about you and has absolutely no proof that suddenly you have "character concerns". Actually, it didn't even go that far. No charges were ever filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Actually, it didn't even go that far. No charges were ever filed. True, but the fact that he battered his girlfriend certainly can't sit too well with Marv. Plus, he did grow up in a poor neighborhood etc. and because of his "lack of smarts" he is what NFL teams consider a risk come Draft time because they don't know what he will do when a player with his mentality gets millions dropped into his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 True, but the fact that he battered his girlfriend certainly can't sit too well with Marv. Plus, he did grow up in a poor neighborhood etc. and because of his "lack of smarts" he is what NFL teams consider a risk come Draft time because they don't know what he will do when a player with his mentality gets millions dropped into his hands. What don't you get about the fact that there is no evidence that he battered his girlfriend at all? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe he's a creep, maybe she was just angry and made something up. No way to know for sure. As for the "mentality" you are worried about, few NFL players are particularly swift, and I venture to say that people who grow up in difficult situations and succeed (which he has done so far) are more likely to continue that success than are people who have had everything handed to them in the 'burbs. Either way, though, generalizations are stupid (except for that one). I'm sure if the Bills are interested in him they'll work hard to get a good feel for who he is as an actual person, not a symbol or a category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 True, but the fact that he battered his girlfriend certainly can't sit too well with Marv. possibly the dumbest thing ive read on the board in the past 3 days. and thats really saying something. i especially enjoy the part where you state "the fact..." but then completely ignore the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 What don't you get about the fact that there is no evidence that he battered his girlfriend at all? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe he's a creep, maybe she was just angry and made something up. No way to know for sure. I remember reading the article when the cops were called to her apartment and she had bruises after the incident. Unless "she beat herself up" I'm quite sure Lynch played a part in it. I'm quite sure "hush-money" from his agent played a part in her not pursuing the matter and dropping the charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 possibly the dumbest thing ive read on the board in the past 3 days. and thats really saying something. i especially enjoy the part where you state "the fact..." but then completely ignore the facts. The fact that the charges were dropped is equal to the fact that O.J. is innocent. DUHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 you watch too many soap operas. i really hope people like you never end up on jury duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Looks like the girlfriend may have been the one with the issues... http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2007/02/24/ma...ons-on-his-pas/ Note this little diddy... "County deputy district attorney who specializes in domestic violence cases declined to press charges, citing a lack of evidence and "grave inconsistencies" in the alleged victim's accusations. Lynch never was arrested or charged" I think the Bills are smart enough to figure out if there's a concern or not with this player. After reading this piece I'm starting to think that he may be a player that does have the "character" to be a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 I remember reading the article when the cops were called to her apartment and she had bruises after the incident. Unless "she beat herself up" I'm quite sure Lynch played a part in it. I'm quite sure "hush-money" from his agent played a part in her not pursuing the matter and dropping the charges. Well, as long as you're "quite sure," I guess I'll back off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Looks like the girlfriend may have been the one with the issues... http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2007/02/24/ma...ons-on-his-pas/ Note this little diddy... "County deputy district attorney who specializes in domestic violence cases declined to press charges, citing a lack of evidence and "grave inconsistencies" in the alleged victim's accusations. Lynch never was arrested or charged" I think the Bills are smart enough to figure out if there's a concern or not with this player. After reading this piece I'm starting to think that he may be a player that does have the "character" to be a Bill. OH MAN! HIS AGENT MUST HAVE PAID OFF THE GIRLFRIEND, THE DA AND THE POLICE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! yeah because marv drafted donte whitner for his academic abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 you watch too many soap operas. i really hope people like you never end up on jury duty. It would never happen, I pick the jury! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 yeah because marv drafted donte whitner for his academic abilities well sorta yeah, Whitner had a 3.7 GPA. he was well known for being possibly the smartest out of the Safeties last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 well sorta yeah, Whitner had a 3.7 GPA. he was well known for being possibly the smartest out of the Safeties last year... well i wasnt saying he was dumb, but more because academics isnt really the top priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB1onde Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 2004 Avg. 8.8 YPC (on only 71 carries, however)2005 Avg. 6.4 YPC 2006 Avg. 6.1 YPC Looks to me like he is on the decline, his numbers have dropped every season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I remember reading the article when the cops were called to her apartment and she had bruises after the incident. Unless "she beat herself up" I'm quite sure Lynch played a part in it.I'm quite sure "hush-money" from his agent played a part in her not pursuing the matter and dropping the charges. Bruises?? Are you really sure about this? Based on this report, there is no evidence at all: The 20-year-old Emeryville woman made inconsistent statements to police, and some allegations she made in an application for a restraining order that was granted by a judge Friday didn't match what she told officers, said Kim Hunter, an Alameda County senior deputy district attorney. A friend of both Lynch and the woman told police that the incident described by the woman didn't happen, and the woman, who said she had been choked, didn't show signs of injury, Hunter said. Also, there were no photographs that could document what she said, the prosecutor said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitnbills Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Plus, he did grow up in a poor neighborhood etc. and because of his "lack of smarts" he is what NFL teams consider a risk come Draft time because they don't know what he will do when a player with his mentality gets millions dropped into his hands. Wow...This is a really foolish comment. B/c of a domestic charge that was actually dropped against him...his mentallity is questioned? B/c he grew up in a poor neighborhood he's now deemed to have a "lack of smarts"? What percentage of players in the league do you think comes from a poor neighborhood? This means absolutely nothing about what they will become and how they will handle millions dropped into there hands. The stereotype that you made is the reason why there are sooo many divisions in this day and age. LAck of knowledge and b/c of that your type tend to fill in the blanks! REALLY SAD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Wow...This is a really foolish comment. B/c of a domestic charge that was actually dropped against him...his mentallity is questioned? B/c he grew up in a poor neighborhood he's now deemed to have a "lack of smarts"? What percentage of players in the league do you think comes from a poor neighborhood? This means absolutely nothing about what they will become and how they will handle millions dropped into there hands. The stereotype that you made is the reason why there are sooo many divisions in this day and age. LAck of knowledge and b/c of that your type tend to fill in the blanks! REALLY SAD!! His lack of smarts has nothing to do with where he grew up, I was referring to his interviews on the NFL Network. Read all the posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike formerly from Florida Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 2004 Avg. 8.8 YPC (on only 71 carries, however)2005 Avg. 6.4 YPC 2006 Avg. 6.1 YPC (OK, that's not really all I need to know. But those are some crazy yards per carry. I don't know of any other workhorse running back in the draft averaging over 6 yards during two full seasons of work.) i don't like it. He's trending downwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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